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Old 12-07-2012, 11:47 AM   #90
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Re: KC Chiefs' Player Commits Murder-Suicide

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins View Post
So you are saying that someone who murders a loved one and kills themselves is completely sane and rational?

I am not trying to justify what Belcher did or disregard the victim that he killed. But don't you think something really f*cked up must have happened in his mind to do this? Serial killers, terrorists, criminals, are typically pretty f*cked in their mind, but they plan on killing people and in some case relish on the act and the notoriety that comes from their heinous acts.

Some guy going insane, killing his significant other, killing himself, and orphaning his child, in my opinion, is not in that same level.
There are people who are born with legitimate mental defects, but the vast majority of us chose what type of persons we will be. We are not all dealt the same deck of cards (family, money, education, opportunity), but we all chose how we response to the hands were dealt. We all have a conscience and an innate sense of right and wrong.

There is absolutely no evidence that Belcher was insane. Although temporary insanity is used as a defense in courts of law, i think its BS, for the reasons i've outlined already.

The problem with our society, one of them anyways, is that we foster a culture of unaccountability. We look for excuses to prevent holding ourselves and others accountable for our/their actions:

"I'm getting Divorced. My wife and i just grew apart. We dont love eachother anymore. Its no ones fault." Bull crap. One or both of you got lazy and stopped WORKING on your marriage. Because of your selfishness, your kids will grow up in a broken home.

"I'm behind on my mortgage payments and the evil bank is foreclosing. its not fair. They never should have given me my loan." Bull crap. The bank paid for your home and you signed a contract promising to pay the bank back. You didnt keep your promise, so they have to take your house and try to re-sell it so they don't just lose all the money they spent buying your house. Yeah, you might have lost your job or gone through hard times, but thats not the banks fault.

A man shots the mother of his child 9 times, and everyone is trying to make excuses for him. "he must not have been in his right mind... he must have been insane... he was in a rage... it was in the heat of the moment. they were arguing." BULL CRAP. Its been reported he was having issues with his girlfriend for months. They'd been fighting. This wasnt just some spur of the moment accident. It was MONTHS of anger and animosity building. By chosing to allow those feelings to build, continuing to fight and argue, Belcher cultivated a mindset that was capeable of murder. when things reached a boling point, he acted on it.

Is there a difference between someone like Belcher and a serial killer who takes pleasure in murdering people? Is therre a difference between Belcher and terrorist who blows up a building because his religous/political beleifs make him think its the right thing to do? Sure. But theyre all evil and they all made conscious decisions to cultivate and act on wrong thoughts.
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