[SBXVII]

Ok so I go to a Giants message board cause I wanted to see what they were saying after last nights loss. lol. It was all typical threads from fans who are passionate about their team losing.lol. but this one had me signing up to be a member to say something only to find out I can't right away. lol.

How much slobbering can we take?

I know RGIII can play but how much friggin' obsession can we take? The kid put up a whopping 17 points at home and beat a team that had a million penalties by one point.
He was the beneficiary of a great running game and he fumbled in the red zone and was lucky enough to have it caught in the air by a teammate and taken in for a score. He threw for an all time record of 163 yards. He was responsible for 245 yards total. Eli was responsible for 285 yards.
Yes, he's seems like a great talent but this was far from a dominating performance. The same nonsense happened with Mike Vick until the reality of the NFL struck an undersized running QB.

So lets all just calm down ESPN, NFLN or whoever wants to anoint this kid to superstar status. Lets see if the kid can survive with this playing style, and do more than lead a .500 team.

Ultimately you have to be able to throw the ball if you want to be a winner. Its a passing league. He's very athletic but he's not making those tough throws into tight windows and I doubt that will ever be true with him.
I like the kid. I like his attitude for the most part. But we've seen what happens to these types of QB's when they aren't pure passers.
They end up getting killed.

Then a reasonable Giants fan:

17 points for a SB was good enough for MVP around here.
the rookie led a 4th qtr comeback against the SB champs on prime time MNF.
over-hyped my ***........what about this ignorant "elite" **** we've heard from the media for ages now....
hell we have 150 page threads about that crap.

let 'em give the devil his due.
had Eli managed more than 3 points the second half , we would have been
hearing all the media junk about Eli and the Giants showing up when when
their back is against the wall or when it really matters....blah blah blah.

well last night RGIII came back in the 4th qtr and won the game.....and all the tie-breakers.

here are their numbers ; just in case anyone cares.

-----------------------ELI-------------------RGIII
TD passes.........16.....................17
INT's thrown........11.....................4
passing yards.....3170.................2677...(with 61 less passes thrown than Eli)
rushing yards........25....................714...(by the way...thats only 120 less than Ahmad Bradshaw)
total yards...........3195................3391
QB rating.............85.3.................104.4
pass comp. %......60.7%.............67.2%
yds per pass .......7.4...................8.2
dropped passes.....28..................28.

i know , you're gonna say stats don't matter......its the intangibles....
RGIII has stats and intangibles.

nobody *****es when the talking heads drool over ELI ,
so who cares ,the kid deserves the hype just as much as anybody else does.

or are we gonna go with the "refs and penalties" or the "we beat ourself" bullspit.

What I would have written on their board is the rest of the NFCE has had to listen and deal with the slobber jocking over Eli for the last decade and his family. (vomit). Now that he is an old toy close to the end of his playing time he's not getting as much attention. (too bad). However during the first game between the two teams all I saw was commercials with Eli in them, interviews with Eli in them, the announcers talking about how Eli is doing this year, how Payton is doing this year, how Archie was the best thing since sliced bread throughout the whole game.

So now that they are forced to hear someone other then their beloved Eli they get upset. They get pissed. Welcome to the waking up and smelling the coffie and getting a heavy handed dose of your own medicine.

I also would have said: RG3 might not be all that great (as I saw Eli back in the day after he was drafted) to them but his numbers show differently. Luck is not getting all the attention around here cause he's not in the NFCE. Luck has 16 INT's for the season and RG3 only has 4. Yeah Luck has his team 8-5 (or whatever) but his division I think is much easier then the teams the NFCE had to play. Plus Luck does not have as many starters IRed on his team as RG3 and the Skins do.