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Masshole · 03-24-2011, 07:57 AM

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;790085]Maybe because I see him as a huge liability on this defense. (and he is) The numbers and video evidence support everything I (and many others) have been saying for sometime.

What do you want me to do? Put on a pair of these?

Pretend nothing is wrong? Pretend we have the best talent in the league and we are on verge of a 16-0 season? I'm sorry, but I work on the realm of reality. My realm says this team is lacking a lot of talent, and it's going to take some time to replace that talent. During the meantime, I'm still going to pull for my beloved Redskins no matter how dysfunctional they seem.

Thank you for all of this NC Skins, you've done an incredible job defending your points, and this last one is really what it's all about. Whether its conventional stats or Football Outsiders or Advanced Stats, we simply have a roster devoid of talent, and an organization-wide philosophy of failing to realize this. It's not that we're rooting against players like Deangelo Hall or Donovon McNabb to succeed. I would love for him to actually be as good as his reputation, but as NC Skins just showed, it's not just the stats that show he's bad in coverage, the tape does as well. As proud as I am as a Skins fan of Hall's Pro Bowl MVP, I think that pretty much is his ceiling, to use his incredible athleticsim to excel in flag football situations. But, re: the future of the Redskins, the first thing an addict needs to do to get better is admit we have a problem, and that we should really have no expectations of winning the Super Bowl or even getting to the playoffs with the roster we currently have, including our lack of a reliable #1 CB.

We can go one of two directions: continue to overvalue our players, repeat the 2010 offseason mindset of playing for right now, and continue to do what we've been doing -suck. Or we can acknowledge that we are at least 2-3 years away, and begin the process of rebuilding. A process that like others have said, D.Hall fits into for this season most likely, but not in the long term, because he's not that good of a player, and he makes far too much money.

Loose ends
-re: D.Hall's tackling - so true, I can't believe how much improvement he made
Kevin Barnes - Didn't he 'win' the Jacksonville game? Love that dude.

03-24-2011, 07:57 AM	#103
Masshole Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 23	Re: Football Outsiders: Worst rated CBs in the NFL in 2010 (DeAngelo ranked #2) [QUOTE=NC_Skins;790085]Maybe because I see him as a huge liability on this defense. (and he is) The numbers and video evidence support everything I (and many others) have been saying for sometime. What do you want me to do? Put on a pair of these? Pretend nothing is wrong? Pretend we have the best talent in the league and we are on verge of a 16-0 season? I'm sorry, but I work on the realm of reality. My realm says this team is lacking a lot of talent, and it's going to take some time to replace that talent. During the meantime, I'm still going to pull for my beloved Redskins no matter how dysfunctional they seem. Thank you for all of this NC Skins, you've done an incredible job defending your points, and this last one is really what it's all about. Whether its conventional stats or Football Outsiders or Advanced Stats, we simply have a roster devoid of talent, and an organization-wide philosophy of failing to realize this. It's not that we're rooting against players like Deangelo Hall or Donovon McNabb to succeed. I would love for him to actually be as good as his reputation, but as NC Skins just showed, it's not just the stats that show he's bad in coverage, the tape does as well. As proud as I am as a Skins fan of Hall's Pro Bowl MVP, I think that pretty much is his ceiling, to use his incredible athleticsim to excel in flag football situations. But, re: the future of the Redskins, the first thing an addict needs to do to get better is admit we have a problem, and that we should really have no expectations of winning the Super Bowl or even getting to the playoffs with the roster we currently have, including our lack of a reliable #1 CB. We can go one of two directions: continue to overvalue our players, repeat the 2010 offseason mindset of playing for right now, and continue to do what we've been doing -suck. Or we can acknowledge that we are at least 2-3 years away, and begin the process of rebuilding. A process that like others have said, D.Hall fits into for this season most likely, but not in the long term, because he's not that good of a player, and he makes far too much money. Loose ends -re: D.Hall's tackling - so true, I can't believe how much improvement he made Kevin Barnes - Didn't he 'win' the Jacksonville game? Love that dude.