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Originally Posted by 44Deezel
Are you saying Ben wasn't really good until his 72nd start? Or even 50th start? How did he play in his first 36 games vs. Campbell? He was 13-0 as a rookie (and offensive rookie player of the year and SB winner the following year), and I don't care how you parse the stats to make the argument that Campbell is just as good. No one in their right mind can watch the two play and think they're on par with each other. For now, Ben is head and shoulders better. I like Campbell and hope he has a break-out season, but his play has been mediocre at best up to this point.
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Dude, you are way off. My statements were a reaction to your following comment:
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Originally Posted by 44Deezel
Exactly. Ben is a playmaker and the Steeler franchise is just solid from top to bottom. They could take our receivers and win the Super Bowl with them. Ben got sacked a ton, but no one used that as an excuse for poor QB play. He kept plays alive with his feet, shed tackles and got the ball downfield.
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Nowhere in my response did I say that Jason Campbell is better than Big Ben. To me your comment that "no one used that [being sacked] as an excuse for poor QB play" sounded as you were saying that unlike Campbell, Ben got sacked a lot and still got his team to the playoffs. It sounded as though you were comparing Campbell to Ben. My response was simply saying that you cannot compare the two at this point, since Ben has more experience (twice as many starts as JC) and was thrown into the starting role since his rookie year (unlike JC).
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Originally Posted by 44Deezel
There's not a huge difference between Campbell and Big Ben?!?!?! Was there a 2 for 1 sale on crack in your neighborhood? The final drive of the Super Bowl is the difference between the two. When has Campbell done anything like that? Ben flat out wins games for his team and is on his way to the HOF. Campbell is still a work in progress and could be a back-up the rest of his career if he doesn't break out in a big way this year.
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I don't necessarily agree that there is not much of a huge difference between JC and Big Ben, however this statement once again leads me to believe that you are comparing Ben to Campbell. Let's look at their differences: 72 starts vs. 36 starts; being the starting QB from rookie year vs. sitting on the bench; having Plaxico Burress/Hines Ward/Santonio Holmes vs. having just Santana Moss; having an elite defense that can win a game vs. having a bend but don't break defense. Ben has had many advantages and that makes him better than Campbell, it is not fair to compare them.