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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33
I don't believe it to be a racial slur or I would agree with you. The faux outrage of NA activists on this issue really should make one look deeper at what their real motive is.
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Check a list of racial slurs on any website. It lists Redskin as a racial slur. It might not have been how the team meant it but it is a racial slur.
Heres a list for you (some of these words are very offensive so anyone who clicks the link be aware of this)..........
List of ethnic slurs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33
There are many names or things that can be perceived by one group or another to be offensive. There are many team names other groups may find offensive; Fighting Irish (focus on the drunken Irishman stereotype), Saints (atheists would find this offensive), the Razorback symbol at Arkansas or the "Hogs" (offensive to some Muslims as a pig is a low form of animal). The term "Redskin" and the N-word are two vastly different things. If you survey African Americans and ask if the N-word is a racial slur and if they would be against the term being used for a sports team, I'm pretty sure you'd get a 99%+ percent that the term is offensive. There is no positive or neutral connotation for that word at all. Yet in a survey of NA people, that the vast majority don't have a problem with NA team names, including Redskins, is very telling.
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Most of those examples you gave arent racial slurs so there is a huge difference. As for the difference between the N-Word and Redskin the only difference is the number of these races in the US. If you flip flopped the number of people of these races in the US people wouldnt have a problem with the N-word as a team name.
As for NA people who dont have a problem with it thats because the times are different. Just like the amount of African-Americans who think the N-word is racist has declined. If you polled NA at earlier times the number would be higher. Another reason some NA dont think the word Redskin is racist is because nowadays people arent as racist as they use to be in this country. If you dont hear the word directed toward you as a racial slur but only as the name of a football team they would probably not think the word is racist. I bet if they had a talk with their ancestors they would have a different view on the word. Any NA who understands the true meaning and how it was used towards them would say it is racist.
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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33
Do a Google search on "redskin" and the autolinks that come up are all about the Redskin team.
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Well that makes sense I would think if you googled the word Redskin alot of the top listing would be of the football team. I dont see how that means Redskin isnt a racial slur. You could google every NFL team name and most of the top responses would be of that team.
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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33
If you know Redskin team history, the name came about because the owner was honoring the coach who was NA and he also wanted to separate the team from the Braves name they had before. If the coach didn't resign or protest the team name, then I'd say we're on pretty solid ground here. This issue has only come about more recently in the PC world we live in.
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Yes we were the Boston Braves in 1932 and changed our team name to the Boston Redskins in 1933. Just because the coach didnt protest the team name doesnt mean it isnt a racial slur towards NA.
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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33
The size of NA population in the US has nothing to do with it. As I referenced in my last post, the problem is the NA team name issue offends NA activists and those with an agenda, not the NA people in general. Keep in mind it wasn't just African American folks who stood up for civil rights in this country, it was a consolidated effort by members of all races. If it was only African Americans, based on population count, we would not have made the progress towards racial equality that we have.
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Ok well I have to just agree to disagree here. Let me ask you this if we flip flopped the number of each race in this country and everything that happened between whites and these races over the last several hundred years for starters. Now lets say our team name was the Washington N-words. Would you feel the same way as you do about the word Redskins?
All im saying in this thread is no matter how many people think its a racial slur or not the bottom line is a racial slur is a racial slur. I do believe the Redskins team never meant for the name to be racist. I do understand the people who think the word is racist because of the way it has been used against NA.