[12thMan]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

I don't know about Reid--he's got a great record. He hasn't won the big one. The TO implosion really hurt them, and they had serious injury problems. But when Garcia was in there (and in other years, people like Jay Feely!) the team still won. Some of it's defense, but lots of it was Reid's offense.

And I just don't buy that McNabb is over-rated. When he was healthy, he could beat you with his legs or his arm. It's true that he's a streak passer, and that can hurt his numbers, but when he's on, he can be unstoppable. Is he Manning? Brady? No, but he's up there. Whatever. I'm happy to see the iggles implode, but I don't buy the argument about McNabb, and especially about Reid.

And trust me, in Philly there are plenty of Journalists ragging on the iggles. But year after year they make the playoffs, got to 3 NFC Champ games and one SB. Wasted McNabb's best years? Short of winning the SB (which I agree is vital, but it's not the only way to evaluate things), how else did they waste those years?

PS I really do hate the iggles, but this is exactly the argument my philly friends make to me--McNabb sucks, Reid sucks, etc. No, you philly fans suck! Santa Claus Rules!

I agree with you, JW. McNabb has consistently been a top tier quarterback for the bulk of his career. Like you said, he's no Peyton or Brady, but he's usually breathing right down their necks. And as far as him being effective when he has weapons, well isn't that true of any quarterback. And to be honest, save T.O., what top flight receiver has McNabb played with anyway? You'd probably struggle to name more than two.