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Originally Posted by LMsexyAO
Are you going to honestly say you haven't done the SAME THING with Manning? I've read all 11 pages and all I have really seen from you is the same thing:
1. "If Manning wins it's because of his talent, just look at his numbers"
2. "If Brady wins it's because of his team, just look at his defense"
Not to mention that you have this theory that playoff preasure doesn't exist. You don't really believe that do you? Yes, it's the same players that suit up every other Sunday, but you have to admit that when Manning stops and thinks, "Hey, wait a minute. I'm not gaurenteed to play next week," he gets a little nervous. They both do, of course. But Brady doesn't show it in his play, Manning does. You can bring up the poor play of Brady yesterday if you want but look how Manning played in Baltimore, much worse. The fact is that Brady (at least more often than not) handles the playoff pressure exponentially better than Manning.
Even though I know it's been said several times before, numbers and stats don't mean anything in the end. Marino would have given up 16 wins for one super bowl. Even though Manning may have fantastic regular season games, he chokes when it counts, end of story.
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"Rings" and stats don't even measure the same thing. This isn't about "rings vs stats". It's about Peyton Manning's production vs. Tom Brady's production. Stats are a great way of measuring production (provided you use success conducive stats), easily the best way, but hardly the only way. However, rings are not in ANY way a tool to measure individual performance.
If your case is that Brady's career is more
fufilling because half the seasons he plays end in championships, I fully and totally agree with you. And I'd still take Manning on my team before him.
"He chokes when it counts..." Does the regular season not count? Did Peyton's lights out playoff performances in 2003 and 2004 not count? Did Brady not choke against Denver last year? Did he not choke last week with 3 INTs when his team needed him? There are so many questions that really prevent this from being the "end of story".
Regarding the playoffs being a whole different entity from the regular season, what happens if he goes in and beats the Patriots next week? What happens to the "he chokes under pressure theroy"? Is it invalidated? Refined?