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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21
Yah, but that's a pretty tough standard Riggo. I mean in the history of the NFL, how my quarterbacks have actually won a super bowl? Maybe 30 or so? Certainly you wouldn't argue that guys like Peyton and Marino and Carson Palmer were bad first round picks, would you?
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No, I never said anything like that.
Let me try and explain it like this....
Here is a list of the 37 QBs drafted in the first round (including supplemental because the cost is the same) from 1986 to 2002.
The numbers listed are QB taken, Round, Pick, Overall Pick:
2002
1 1 1 1 David Carr Texans Fresno State
2 1 3 3 Joey Harrington Lions Oregon
3 1 32 32 Patrick Ramsey Redskins Tulane
2001
1 1 1 1 Michael Vick Falcons Virginia Tech
2000
1 1 18 18 Chad Pennington Jets Marshall
1999
1 1 1 1 Tim Couch Browns Kentucky
2 1 2 2 Donovan McNabb Eagles Syracuse
3 1 3 3 Akili Smith Bengals Oregon
4 1 11 11 Daunte Culpepper Vikings Central Florida
5 1 12 12 Cade McNown Bears UCLA
1998
1 1 1 1 Peyton Manning Colts Tennessee
2 1 2 2 Ryan Leaf Chargers Washington State
1997
1 1 26 26 Jim Druckenmiller 49ers Virginia Tech
1996
1 2 12 42 Tony Banks Rams Michigan State
1995
1 1 3 3 Steve McNair Oilers Alcorn State
2 1 5 5 Kerry Collins Panthers Penn State
1994
1 1 3 3 Heath Shuler Redskins Tennessee
2 1 6 6 Trent Dilfer Buccaneers Fresno State
1993
1 1 1 1 Drew Bledsoe Patriots Washington State
2 1 2 2 Rick Mirer Seahawks Notre Dame
1992s
1 1 0 0 Dave Brown Giants Duke
1992
1 1 6 6 David Klingler Bengals Houston
2 1 25 25 Tommy Maddox Broncos UCLA
1991
1 1 16 16 Dan McGwire Seahawks San Diego State
2 1 24 24 Todd Marinovich Raiders USC
1990
1 1 1 1 Jeff George Colts Illinois
2 1 7 7 Andre Ware Lions Houston
1989s
1 1 0 0 Steve Walsh Cowboys Miami (FL)
2 1 0 0 Timm Rosenbach Cardinals Washington State
1989
1 1 1 1 Troy Aikman Cowboys UCLA
1988
1 3 13 68 Tom Tupa Cardinals Ohio State
1987
1 1 1 1 Vinny Testaverde Buccaneers Miami (FL)
2 1 6 6 Kelly Stouffer Cardinals Colorado State
3 1 13 13 Chris Miller Falcons Oregon
4 1 26 26 Jim Harbaugh Bears Michigan
1986
1 1 3 3 Jim Everett Oilers Purdue
2 1 12 12 Chuck Long Lions Iowa
Of those, I'd argue that in hindsite only 8 or 9 were worth the expense of a 1st round pick (which ones, that's subjective, but I think you can find 30 that you can argue were probably not the best use of the pick).
In other words, at least 3 out of 4 times maybe even 4 out of 5 times, those 1st round picks didn't provide good value. I am saying that those who swear by the conventional wisdom that you must follow NE & PIT by building through the draft at the QB position are banking on luck and ignoring the history.