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Originally Posted by AnonEmouse
I'd almost suggest if Mac Jones was there at #19 then we trade back for more picks and go after someone like Mond in the 4th or maybe even 3rd round. To me the likes of Jones and Trask don't fit the mould of what we need/the NFL wants and we risk reaching if we take Jones at #19 or even think of trading up.
I'd take BPA and risk waiting another year to find our rookie QB, if we don't find a diamond lower down. Let the other teams scramble around with trades etc. to get 'their guy', while we build a team for a 3-4 year run, not all or nothing now. They'll use up picks on busts more like as not, while we get a draft full of prospects hopefully.
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You could argue that Jones needs more arm strength to be a legit franchise QB, not a small shortcoming, but some scouts argue his arm is strong enough. He checks all the other boxes. The "mould" of running QBs isn't what wins long term. Following the herd isn't usually wise.
I agree with long-term view, but we should be looking for a pocket passer, not a running QB. I think a fair rating of Jones is late 1st to perhaps late 2nd, so the question then becomes do you reach a bit for a potential franchise QB? Depends what the scouts say in their assessment. I don't think it matters. I think Jones is gone, long gone, by #19. I think pro scouts understand pocket passers are what win long term, for at least a half dozen teams at least, and one of them will pounce on Jones, especially outside the top-10 if he's still there. I think Jones is at minimum the 2nd best prospect in this QB class. He learns fast and knows pro-style offenses. He can come in right away and lead. He reminds me Peyton Manning, Brees, Brady, Eli Manning, etc., in his approach, style, and intangible.
People assuming you need a RB at QB are wrong, period. The QBs that enjoy long-term success in NFL are all pocket passers. I am not drafting any QB in the 1st round if they haven't succeeded in a pro-style system reading Ds. You do that, the bust rate decreases MASSIVELY. Again, exhibits A and B, RGIII and Haskins.