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Originally Posted by Chico23231
Hey fight or flight response to someone armed who coulda been trying to rob him(trayvon). Trayvon shouldnt have done it, it was quick response to an unnormal situation. Remember Trayvon is dead he didnt chance to collect the facts after the incident.
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"Fight or flight". No. Flight. Period. "someone armed" - Did Martin think Zimm was armed? Any evidence of that? He mention that to his friend on the phone? (Hint: No). Is there evidence
beyond a reasonable doubt that Martin was in
imminent fear of physical assault before the fight ensued?
Trayvon is dead. If the reverse were true, and Martin claimed Zimm drew his gun, there was a tussle and Zimm ended up dead, guess what - Zimm isn't around to dispute it and Martin is free. Period.
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I know its a novel concept to some, but black kids can be freaked out by old white guys following them. I guess the more accepted way of thinking is a young skittle toting child-thug Trayvon causing old white ladies to grip their purses a little tighter as he passes. Thats not the case here, and where the young thug totes skittles, the creepy coward Zim totes a pistol.
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You completely lost me Chico. You keep playing the race card, making assumptions about motives and using emotionally charged language that borders on demagougery. If Martin was "freaked out by [an] old white guy following him", that's a big old tough sh** [By the way, how do they feel about "white hispanics"?]. Martin took matters into his own hands instead of calling the cops. In doing so, any chance at
knowing what happened that night was ended. [BTW: If Zimm is such a f'ing "creepy coward" why not just pull the gun at the outset? Care to explain Zimm's thought pattern on that, 'cause it's clear you have a telepathic link to Zimm's thoughts to know them with such certainty].
You want to thug out. Fine. Guess what, when you walk through my neighborhood, this creepy white guy is going to be watching you b/c I have personally witnessed too many "thugged out" teens/young adults racing away from broken car windows, vandalism and outright assualt of my neighbors.
BTW - Did you read the testimony of Zimm's physical trainer - the guy call Zimm "soft" and physically inept and that was after a year of training. To me that creates some reasonable doubt that his self-defense claim is
without merit.
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Originally Posted by Chico23231
We good if the picture was vise versa? We good if thuged out, armed, Trayvon asking Zim what he up too and Zim has the skittles? Justice would be blind and impartial? Yeah, not in this country.
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If "thugged out armed" Martin claims self-defense, can provide evidence that he was screaming for his life (or create, more accurately, cast reasonable doubt upon the prosecutor's claim it wasn't him screaming for his life), has an eyewitness who has him pinned on the ground by Zimm, can demonstrate injuries consistent with his description of how he was losing the fight, and consistently describes the fight to police and friends and the manner in which he was in fear of his life ...
Then yeah, Martin gets the same benefit of doubt that to which Zimm is entittled.