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Originally Posted by over the mountain
i think we have slightly more than that. i added some more in bold.
plus, to my knowledge we have 2 eyewitnesses saying they believe the larger person was on top (Z being the larger person in their judgment) and one witness saying he believes the lighter skinned person was on the bottom.
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The two witnesses had Zimmerman on top after the gunshot fired which conflicts with how Martin's body was found (face down) or simply could mean Martin rolled over after Martin collapsed from being shot. Also, the photo they were shown of Martin for size comparison to Zimmerman was Martin in his football uniform that looked like it was from when he was 14 and had no reference for TM's height or size - It was clearly NOT a photo of Martin at or near the time of the shooting. On the other hand, the guy 15 feet away identified Z as being on the bottom by the color of his jacket and said Z's arms were free while TM had him in the "ground and pound".
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Originally Posted by over the mountain
if martin was giving zimmerman the ground and pound so hard that zimmerman was fearing for his life, how did zimmerman manage to unholster his firearm and cleanly discharge it right into martin's chest?
if zimmerman was able to do all they above acts seemingly cleanly, was there no other less deadly alternatives?
if martin was on top of him, id imagine a long struggle for the gun would ensue. . . .
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How? I can imagine any number of ways. Been on the bottom of a fight and needed to pull a knife while being choked? It's a brawl my man. Shit happens. "you would imagine a long struggle"? Martin is angry, is staring him in the eye as he does the "pound" and momentarily loses track of Z's hands; taking advantage of the momentary lapse of his opponent, Z fumbles his gun out and gets a lucky shot off. Not saying that's how it happened but it's one of a myriad of ways a moment can turn a fight.
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Originally Posted by over the mountain
joe - watch the reenactment video zimmerman did for the news a few days after and tell me if his version of events would hold water. just too many leaps of faith imo from what ive seen.
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I did when it was first posted. Can't remember what it said or my impressions. If you can post hte link, great. Otherwise, I'll try to find it and watch it again. It will be interesting to compare to the testimony that is now coming out.