Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.
 

Does anyone still think Jon Hall can kick anything past 35 yards? I don't. I know that he was a great kicker, but I think we are waisting time and games on him. So he can kick with his shirt off and act like he is the man, who cares. I feel scared half to death when he steps out to kick. I really have to hold my breathe and hope to God he makes it. I think we need to bring Tyler Jones out and give him another shot, trust me, the guy is for real. At Boise St. the dude was awesome. He would hit the back of the endzone 90% of the time. I am from Idaho and remember him kicking our ass in football, GIVE HIM A ANOTHER SHOT!!!

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I think I can take one more miss before I ask for Halls head on a platter. Of course, if we give him the boot tomorrow morning I would have no problem whatsoever.

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[quote=saden1;215463]I think I can take one more miss before I ask for Halls head on a platter. Of course, if we give him the boot tomorrow morning I would have no problem whatsoever.[/quote]


i agree 100%

Re: Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.
 

[quote=twinskinsfan;215452]Does anyone still think Jon Hall can kick anything past 35 yards? I don't. I know that he was a great kicker, but I think we are waisting time and games on him. So he can kick with his shirt off and act like he is the man, who cares. I feel scared half to death when he steps out to kick. I really have to hold my breathe and hope to God he makes it. I think we need to bring Tyler Jones out and give him another shot, trust me, the guy is for real. At Boise St. the dude was awesome. He would hit the back of the endzone 90% of the time. I am from Idaho and remember him kicking our ass in football, GIVE HIM A ANOTHER SHOT!!![/quote] i could not agree more. hall has been a dissapointment since we got him. i would rather see novak.

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We should have turned the page on Hall last season.

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why isnt there any good college kickers? i see guys in college kicking the hell out of the ball and as soon as they get a tryout, they suck

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I should write an article on the all hindsight team ;)

but seriously, everyone called this one a long time ago.

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Yeah...one more big miss...and i think it would have to be novak time...

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Is Nick Novak (or anyone else available right now) really any better than John Hall? Even if Hall continues to hit at a rate of only 70%, he's still better than Nick Novak or anybody else available in the free agent market. You don't just go cutting a guy just because he's been missing. You replace him if you can find somebody better. I don't know that we can.

We should have gone after Ryan Longwell in the offseason when we had the chance. He's appreciably better than Hall. But trying to replace him now would be pointless. We'd end up with an equally substandard kicker, if not worse.

Re: Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.
 

[quote=Schneed10;215489]Is Nick Novak (or anyone else available right now) really any better than John Hall? Even if Hall continues to hit at a rate of only 70%, he's still better than Nick Novak or anybody else available in the free agent market. You don't just go cutting a guy just because he's been missing. You replace him if you can find somebody better. I don't know that we can.

How many more times does he have to miss? We need to be looking at the kickers who are out there and have a competition. John Hall is injury prone and if he cant make the kicks he has to go.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;215496]How many more times does he have to miss? We need to be looking at the kickers who are out there and have a competition. John Hall is injury prone and if he cant make the kicks he has to go.[/quote]

It's not that simple. The question isn't simply "how many more times does he have to miss." The question is will Nick Novak (or any other chump kicker who is available) miss less often than John Hall? The answer is no in my mind. Novak kicks the ball too low, has too many blocked.

And blocks aren't just misses. Blocks have the potential for being run back for a TD.

Think about it man. Why would a kicker be available during Week 2 of the season if he was any good?

Re: Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.
 

[quote=Schneed10;215489]Is Nick Novak (or anyone else available right now) really any better than John Hall? Even if Hall continues to hit at a rate of only 70%, he's still better than Nick Novak or anybody else available in the free agent market. You don't just go cutting a guy just because he's been missing. You replace him if you can find somebody better. I don't know that we can.

We should have gone after Ryan Longwell in the offseason when we had the chance. He's appreciably better than Hall. But trying to replace him now would be pointless. We'd end up with an equally substandard kicker, if not worse.[/quote]

Hence our dilema. Hall isn't all that good, but who's out there right now that's any better. Unless he totally tanks and stinks it up over the next couple of games, now isn't the time to experimenting with a new kicker.

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The chances of finding someone on the street who can do a better job than Hall right now is pretty slim.

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Listen here is what i am suggesting...lets get novak and whoever else we can find and bring them to redskins park and lets have a kicking competition. John Hall has never been the most reliable kicker in the world(as far as staying healhty) and the fact that we didnt have a competition during training camp boggles my mind.

Re: Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.
 

[quote=vaoutlaws2006;215513]Listen here is what i am suggesting...lets get novak and whoever else we can find and bring them to redskins park and lets have a kicking competition. John Hall has never been the most reliable kicker in the world(as far as staying healhty) and the fact that we didnt have a competition during training camp boggles my mind.[/quote]

A kicking competition in practice means squadoosh.

Would have been nice to just sign Vinatieri, Vanderjagt, or Longwell in the offseason. But we didn't.

Signing Nick Novak does not solve any kicking problems we have. That's jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire because he's a bum. We made our bed now we've got to lie in it. We're stuck with Hall, we're not going to find anybody better.