Broken Man
 

If you want to see a broken man watch the Bears vs Packers game. It makes me sad to see Brett Favre teary eyed like he was when he throw an INT that went for a defensive TD. Should he return? I mean can their team really be improved enough to make any legitimate noise next year?

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Yeah, I am watching it too...it is very disheartening to see him go out like that...I think he should call it quits at season end.

He will always be remembered as a great, he does not have to do anything more for that to be a factor.


[QUOTE=saden1]If you want to see a broken man watch the Bears vs Packers game. It makes me sad to see Brett Favre teary eyed like he was when he throw an INT that went for a defensive TD. Should he return? I mean can their team really be improved enough to make any legitimate noise next year?[/QUOTE]

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If they make some upgrades to the OL and get another WR to go with Walker, I think they can immediately be back in the thick of things. They've been absolutely decimated by injuries. Favre has got nobody around him right now, they've gone through RB after RB this year and Rod Gardner is a go to guy after just signing with the team last week.

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this dude has been stinking it up for the last 3 years. Oh yea, he has had monster games on a couple of occasions, but on the whole he just isn't getting it done. He's certainly a media favorite, and the people of Greenbay revere him for that good run in the mid to late 90s, but he's certainly worn out the love. He should not be back next year. Retire and take your place in the HOF, Brett.

Personally, I hate it when the media makes a big deal about him having monster game the week after losing his uncle, aunt, brother-in-law, pet hamster etc. He was a great QB, but his time has passed.

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i think on the right team brett favre could still be a good nfl qback.green bay is not a good team nor will they be next year.time for #4 to retire.one of the all time greats

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Even Payton Manning would have looked awful this year with Green Bay's talent around him.

I hope Favre comes back for one more, it would suck to see him go out like this.

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I think Favre has been a great qb. This year he has been absolutely ravaged by injuries, they have their sixth starting running back playing now, they even have rod gardner starting after being signed last week. I feel bad for Favre this season. There is no way he should leave like this.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]If they make some upgrades to the OL and get another WR to go with Walker, I think they can immediately be back in the thick of things. They've been absolutely decimated by injuries. Favre has got nobody around him right now, they've gone through RB after RB this year and Rod Gardner is a go to guy after just signing with the team last week.[/QUOTE]
I agree to a point, I think that they need upgrades on the OL, but I dont think that the need to find another WR. I mean if Walker never got hurt this year they would have done better. Donald Driver did not have that bad of a year, I think that they needed Walker this year to help out, but when he went down that hurt everything. Basicly the offense needed Walker...

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]If they make some upgrades to the OL and get another WR to go with Walker, I think they can immediately be back in the thick of things. They've been absolutely decimated by injuries. Favre has got nobody around him right now, they've gone through RB after RB this year and Rod Gardner is a go to guy after just signing with the team last week.[/QUOTE]

Rod Gardner a goto guy................now that is funny.

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Haha I know. He is not gonna do well there we all know that. Hey he might have a breakout season next year, but then what? Back to the same old Gardner, dropping catches and getting dropped from teams.

[QUOTE=Skinsfanmania]Rod Gardner a goto guy................now that is funny.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Even Payton Manning would have looked awful this year with Green Bay's talent around him.

I hope Favre comes back for one more, it would suck to see him go out like this.[/QUOTE]

What he said.
I really hope Favre returns as will his IR teamates: Ferguson, Green, Davenport, Gado, etc etc. He really can't finish much worse and it's a great opportunity to let Brett school a Matt Linardht. They might get him! Saints need a city more than they need a rookie QB!

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they already have aaron rodgers being taught by brett, he is their qb of the future. Matt Leinhart will be going to someone else.

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he has a highschool team around him. How is he suppossed to preform?

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I say he should return. The packers should pick up TO. Then spend the draft and offseason rebuilding their o-line and Defense. Ahman green will be back, so will davenport,and so will walker, and Franks. That is quite a team that could probraly make a superbowl run with the right coach, possibly marriuchi.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]I say he should return. The packers should pick up TO. Then spend the draft and offseason rebuilding their o-line and Defense. Ahman green will be back, so will davenport,and so will walker, and Franks. That is quite a team that could probraly make a superbowl run with the right coach, possibly marriuchi.[/QUOTE]

TO's contract next year for whichever team is gonna have so many clauses in it about all the crap he has done in the past, I can't wait to see it.

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Favre should have retired last year. He is slipping nicely into the role of "stayed too long". He may as well play one more year now to wipe some of the egg off his face.

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I agree that the team is bad, but 30 ints? Come on, you can't blame all of those on having played with 6 different RB's. There's no question he's an all time great with nothing left to prove, but his decision making this year has reminded me more of Kyle Boller than John Elway. He's turning into the Willie Mays of football out there. I think its time to go Brett.

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Brett's 30 INTs can be misleading. Without Ahman Green, their running game was non-existent. Packers' opponents knew this and basically played against the pass constantly. I think Favre should come back and redeem himself next year when he gets all of his starters back on offense. They lost Javon Walker, Robert Ferguson, Ahman Green, Najeh Davenport, Bubba Franks and I think one of their starting guards. That's like losing Santana Moss, David Patten, Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Chris Cooley (I'm saying Cooley instead of Royal because Cooley's our redzone target), and Randy Thomas.

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He had a terrible start to his career, an amazing middle, and a terrible finish. He's a horrible, horrible quarterback these days. All he does is force passes and throw embarrassing interceptions. Easily one of the most overrated players in the NFL.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag]He had a terrible start to his career, an amazing middle, and a terrible finish. He's a horrible, horrible quarterback these days. All he does is force passes and throw embarrassing interceptions. Easily one of the most overrated players in the NFL.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with you DB. I think Brett Farve's play this year has been horrible despite all the injuries and line-up changes. If it were anyone but Farve, the QB would have been benched a long, long time ago.

As far as I'm concerned he and Mick Vick (sorry WeWhite) fall into the category of overated QBs. I think we give Brette Farve a longer leash, if you will, because of his past accomplishments - which are many.

I don't think he makes too much of attempt to read defenses. He just guns it to the receiver and everyone crosses their fingers.

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Guys, take a look at [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1028"]Favre's career numbers[/url]. Until this year he was still producing at a high level. He's one year removed from 4000 yards and 30 TD's.

I see people saying he's been sliding the last few years, he should have retired years ago, etc.

The numbers don't lie, he can still get it done. But with the cast of players he's had around him this year, it was an impossible task for anybody.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Guys, take a look at [url="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1028"]Favre's career numbers[/url]. Until this year he was still producing at a high level. He's one year removed from 4000 yards and 30 TD's.

I see people saying he's been sliding the last few years, he should have retired years ago, etc.

The numbers don't lie, he can still get it done. But with the cast of players he's had around him this year, it was an impossible task for anybody.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, put any other quarterback into Favre's position this year, and watch their numbers take a dive. Try to imagine Brunells' numbers and Washingtons' record if Patten was the number one receiver, there was no Cooley, and the starting tailback was whoever is behind Nemo Broughton on the depth chart. That'd be a pretty picture.

And if anyone thinks Favre's numbers for the past few years have been "horrible", I'd like to know what is considered good, if 3300-4000 yards, 30 TD's, and a 90+ rating is bad.

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favre can still get it done with decent players around him.by the way,who the hell is sam cado?