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dblanch66 10-24-2005 01:11 PM

"Curious" absence of a Post writer...
 
I find it odd that Sally Jenkins didn't write a column this week... I guess there was nothing to gripe about or no negative issues to point out this week. Maybe she has a wicked yeast infection and couldn't turn on her computer. Either way, you have to call into question the integrity of the post which allows jounalists to expouse their personal issues within their articles. I always thought that journalists were meant to be objective.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-24-2005 01:12 PM

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Yeah, I wasn't so quick to jump on that bandwagon the last TWO losses, but I think it's time for me to.

I'll give her a couple of days to hear a halfway decent article before I begin the bashing.

paulskinsfan 10-24-2005 01:17 PM

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I HATE SALLY JENKINS! Let's post her email address and bombard her for requests for an article on the San Fran game. She is such a bitch, never anything good going on at Redskins park. At least the other critics pay homage when things go right, she just runs off and hides like a scared little girl.

irish 10-24-2005 01:22 PM

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]I find it odd that Sally Jenkins didn't write a column this week... I guess there was nothing to gripe about or no negative issues to point out this week. Maybe she has a wicked yeast infection and couldn't turn on her computer. Either way, you have to call into question the integrity of the post which allows jounalists to expouse their personal issues within their articles. I always thought that journalists were meant to be objective.[/QUOTE]

Sally Jenkins is a columnist not a reporter. It's exactly her job to expouse her personal views in a column.

Redskins_P 10-24-2005 01:30 PM

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Sally Jenkins is a joke. She writes for the Post, but lives in NYC. Her opinion on the Redskins really doesn't mean shit.

dblanch66 10-24-2005 01:33 PM

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[QUOTE=irish]Sally Jenkins is a columnist not a reporter. It's exactly her job to expouse her personal views in a column.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how many other NFL cities with local papers have a "columnist" that regularly bashes the local team and then scurries away and hides in a hole (like a snake)when the said team succeeds. I have no respect for cowards who can dish it out but can't take it and admit when they're wrong. Reminds me of the Bush government.

irish 10-24-2005 01:44 PM

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[QUOTE=dblanch66]I wonder how many other NFL cities with local papers have a "columnist" that regularly bashes the local team and then scurries away and hides in a hole (like a snake)when the said team succeeds. I have no respect for cowards who can dish it out but can't take it and admit when they're wrong. Reminds me of the Bush government.[/QUOTE]

Having lived in a bunch of different cities I can tell you most local columnists bash the local team at one time or another. It sells papers.

I'm curious how you know she is hiding (and hiding from what?) and not off on another project for the paper, a book, health problem, family issue, etc..

JWsleep 10-24-2005 01:46 PM

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Don't like her negative tone; not a surprise she has nothing to say this week. Typical.

jbcjr14 10-24-2005 02:17 PM

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I am sending her an email....BITCH.

MTK 10-24-2005 02:26 PM

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I was thinking the same damn thing last night as the new WP articles were going online.

Where the heck is Jenkins with her negative views?

Oh that's right, the Skins won, kinda hard to be negative after a win, though I wouldn't put it past her.

12thMan 10-24-2005 02:28 PM

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Would someone please post her email address.

joecrisp 10-24-2005 03:15 PM

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irish is right on this one. Jenkins is a sports columnist, which is the sportswriting equivalent of an op/ed writer. She doesn't have to be objective, nor do you have to agree with her opinion. Conflict sells papers, and if there's venom to be spewed about the local sports team, you're sure to find it in the local paper. If you want nothing but love and adoration and positivity, the Redskins certainly provide ample media content of their own to satisfy you.

By the way, fellas, can we try to keep the misogyny to ourselves, please? There are women on these boards-- including my wife-- and I'm sure their opinion of this forum drops down another peg every time they see words like "bitch" being hurled at female journalists, or malicious references to yeast infections or any other hateful comments that would make this board appear to be yet another online bastion of male chauvinism, rather than the home of Redskins discussion for the knowledgeable fan-- male OR female. Let's try to keep that in mind when we're sharing our views on any subject.

I hate to be the PC watchdog for this board, but I want everyone to feel welcome here, and I want people-- both male and female-- to always come away from our site with a higher opinion of it. I don't know about you, but my esteem of a person or group has never been elevated by their use of chauvinistic or otherwise hateful language.

Thanks to those of you who care for helping to make this board the community that it is.

FRPLG 10-24-2005 03:32 PM

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Many here use names for male media members also so I think the board takes on an "equal opportunity" tone really. "Bitch" seems fine to me but I would say negative references to specifically female issues are crossing the line.

BigSKINBauer 10-24-2005 03:51 PM

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Bitch




edit, i wrote this before reading the whole thing, i am not just saying that because we were talking about not saying that. BUT i do call dr.z and pastafat bitches all the time so i am not really gonna change it.

mooby 10-24-2005 04:47 PM

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i won't use any negative terms referring to females, but when i do say bitch i mean it like i hate them, not as a negatory female term.

Big C 10-24-2005 05:14 PM

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[QUOTE=dblanch66] Maybe she has a wicked yeast infection and couldn't turn on her computer.[/QUOTE]

loloololol :food-smil

dblanch66 10-24-2005 05:46 PM

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[QUOTE=irish]Having lived in a bunch of different cities I can tell you most local columnists bash the local team at one time or another. It sells papers.

I'm curious how you know she is hiding (and hiding from what?) and not off on another project for the paper, a book, health problem, family issue, etc..[/QUOTE]
What are you married to her? Having grown up in a military family I have traveled my whole life, so I have experience here too. I am going off of past history. We went 3-0 and heard nothing from her. She then chose to write a column after the 1st loss. This stuff happend all last year too. So
I'm curious how YOU know she's NOT hiding. As for those of you who are offended by wit, I'll try to use more "Adam Sandler" type humor for you all in the future.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-24-2005 07:39 PM

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]irish is right on this one. Jenkins is a sports columnist, which is the sportswriting equivalent of an op/ed writer. She doesn't have to be objective, nor do you have to agree with her opinion. Conflict sells papers, and if there's venom to be spewed about the local sports team, you're sure to find it in the local paper. If you want nothing but love and adoration and positivity, the Redskins certainly provide ample media content of their own to satisfy you.

By the way, fellas, can we try to keep the misogyny to ourselves, please? There are women on these boards-- including my wife-- and I'm sure their opinion of this forum drops down another peg every time they see words like "bitch" being hurled at female journalists, or malicious references to yeast infections or any other hateful comments that would make this board appear to be yet another online bastion of male chauvinism, rather than the home of Redskins discussion for the knowledgeable fan-- male OR female. Let's try to keep that in mind when we're sharing our views on any subject.

I hate to be the PC watchdog for this board, but I want everyone to feel welcome here, and I want people-- both male and female-- to always come away from our site with a higher opinion of it. I don't know about you, but my esteem of a person or group has never been elevated by their use of chauvinistic or otherwise hateful language.

Thanks to those of you who care for helping to make this board the community that it is.[/QUOTE]

Joe,

I agree with you on the subject of PC-ness. And we WONDER why this place is always such a sausage fest? ;)

On the note of her opinions/editorials, sure she doesn't have to be objective but if she's going to be that way, I think that she should just come out and put it all on the table. When I read the Op/Ed sections for most papers, the opinion is there in black and white and it's mostly trying to persuade the general public in one way or another, in particular with reference to the Iraq war.

I'm fine with people being realists, but to put it in a single phrase, it seems like she is only there to shit on our collective parades. I do think that any members name-calling of her is unwarranted, but the criticism that she gets most certainly is not.

Sociofan 10-24-2005 10:37 PM

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[b][font=Times New Roman][size=3]Sally Jenkins:[/size][/font][/b] [email="jenkinss@washpost.com"]jenkinss@washpost.com[/email]
[font=Times New Roman]Sports columnist[/font]

STPainmaker 10-25-2005 12:07 AM

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]irish is right on this one. Jenkins is a sports columnist, which is the sportswriting equivalent of an op/ed writer. She doesn't have to be objective, nor do you have to agree with her opinion. Conflict sells papers, and if there's venom to be spewed about the local sports team, you're sure to find it in the local paper. If you want nothing but love and adoration and positivity, the Redskins certainly provide ample media content of their own to satisfy you.

By the way, fellas, can we try to keep the misogyny to ourselves, please? There are women on these boards-- including my wife-- and I'm sure their opinion of this forum drops down another peg every time they see words like "bitch" being hurled at female journalists, or malicious references to yeast infections or any other hateful comments that would make this board appear to be yet another online bastion of male chauvinism, rather than the home of Redskins discussion for the knowledgeable fan-- male OR female. Let's try to keep that in mind when we're sharing our views on any subject.

I hate to be the PC watchdog for this board, but I want everyone to feel welcome here, and I want people-- both male and female-- to always come away from our site with a higher opinion of it. I don't know about you, but my esteem of a person or group has never been elevated by their use of chauvinistic or otherwise hateful language.

Thanks to those of you who care for helping to make this board the community that it is.[/QUOTE]


She's a dirty cunt....JK. I feel you Joe.

MTK 10-25-2005 08:09 AM

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I'm aware this is her job, and she's a columnist who offers her opinions, but c'mon already. Isn't this Skins bashing crap getting old and predictable? Especially when she only comes out of her cave after a loss?

There are plenty of other quality columnists on the Post, and they are much more fair and level headed than Jenkins. Look at Wise, who recently apologized for his comments regarding Brunell last year. Wilbon and Kornheiser are both pretty fair in their articles, calling the Skins out when necessary and giving praise when appropriate.

Jenkins' negatively slanted articles are just getting old, what is she going to do if god forbid they have a winning season and go to the playoffs? Will she just not write about the Skins? I guess that wouldn't be a bad thing.

TheMalcolmConnection 10-25-2005 08:13 AM

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She'll say, "Well I guess they weren't good enough to win the Super Bowl."

Hell, even if we did, she'd be like, "Well they can't be THAT good. They didn't go undefeated."

dblanch66 10-25-2005 11:46 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm aware this is her job, and she's a columnist who offers her opinions, but c'mon already. Isn't this Skins bashing crap getting old and predictable? Especially when she only comes out of her cave after a loss?

There are plenty of other quality columnists on the Post, and they are much more fair and level headed than Jenkins. Look at Wise, who recently apologized for his comments regarding Brunell last year. Wilbon and Kornheiser are both pretty fair in their articles, calling the Skins out when necessary and giving praise when appropriate.

Jenkins' negatively slanted articles are just getting old, what is she going to do if god forbid they have a winning season and go to the playoffs? Will she just not write about the Skins? I guess that wouldn't be a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Matty. It's a trend that is hard to ignore.

FRPLG 10-25-2005 11:51 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I'm aware this is her job, and she's a columnist who offers her opinions, but c'mon already. Isn't this Skins bashing crap getting old and predictable? Especially when she only comes out of her cave after a loss?

There are plenty of other quality columnists on the Post, and they are much more fair and level headed than Jenkins. Look at Wise, who recently apologized for his comments regarding Brunell last year. Wilbon and Kornheiser are both pretty fair in their articles, calling the Skins out when necessary and giving praise when appropriate.

Jenkins' negatively slanted articles are just getting old, what is she going to do if god forbid they have a winning season and go to the playoffs? Will she just not write about the Skins? I guess that wouldn't be a bad thing.[/QUOTE]
Exactlty. Wilbon and Kornheiser are good examples of columnists who don't seem to let bias get in the way. Kornheiser is certainly a Skins fan but he calls them out a lot. His stuff does tend to be more positive regarding them but you can't say he goes soft on them. Wilbon is definitly not a Skins fan but you never see him go after them without good cause. He'll praise when needed. Neither of them are strictly positive or negative. They simply are balanced.

railcon56 10-25-2005 02:17 PM

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]irish is right on this one. Jenkins is a sports columnist, which is the sportswriting equivalent of an op/ed writer. She doesn't have to be objective, nor do you have to agree with her opinion. Conflict sells papers, and if there's venom to be spewed about the local sports team, you're sure to find it in the local paper. If you want nothing but love and adoration and positivity, the Redskins certainly provide ample media content of their own to satisfy you.

By the way, fellas, can we try to keep the misogyny to ourselves, please? There are women on these boards-- including my wife-- and I'm sure their opinion of this forum drops down another peg every time they see words like "bitch" being hurled at female journalists, or malicious references to yeast infections or any other hateful comments that would make this board appear to be yet another online bastion of male chauvinism, rather than the home of Redskins discussion for the knowledgeable fan-- male OR female. Let's try to keep that in mind when we're sharing our views on any subject.

I hate to be the PC watchdog for this board, but I want everyone to feel welcome here, and I want people-- both male and female-- to always come away from our site with a higher opinion of it. I don't know about you, but my esteem of a person or group has never been elevated by their use of chauvinistic or otherwise hateful language.

Thanks to those of you who care for helping to make this board the community that it is.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting this Joe I couldn't agree with you more....

12thMan 10-26-2005 04:21 AM

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[QUOTE=Sociofan][b][font=Times New Roman][size=3]Sally Jenkins:[/size][/font][/b] [email="jenkinss@washpost.com"]jenkinss@washpost.com[/email]
[font=Times New Roman]Sports columnist[/font][/QUOTE]

Thank you, sir.

I think if she is "woman" enough to write about the Redskins from her NY office, then certainly she should be open to a little constructive critism herself.

I'm sure she's well aware of the loyal, the most loyal, fan base that exist here in all of professional football. Yes, even more than those stupid cheeseheads in Greenbay!!, and yet she still continues to write these negative articles about our beloved Redskins.

No, it probably won't change her mind or the what she writes, but dammit it will make me feel a helleva lot better!!!

mooby 10-26-2005 06:25 AM

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I think she has some kind of deal with the post, like in her contract it says whenever the Redskins win, she gets the week off and doesn't have to write an article.

Dana87 10-26-2005 07:57 AM

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[QUOTE=irish]Having lived in a bunch of different cities I can tell you most local columnists bash the local team at one time or another. It sells papers.

I'm curious how you know she is hiding (and hiding from what?) and not off on another project for the paper, a book, health problem, family issue, etc..[/QUOTE]


I'm curious why you seem to be defending someone that is so obvious about her anti Redskins Bias. While she might be a columist, that does not excuse her lack of integrity. It's one thing to point out the mistakes the Redskins make, Like:

Bringing back Gibbs when the game has clearly passed him by
Signing the over the hill Brunell
The dumb trade for Santana Moss

If she had any integrity at all she would have already admited she was wrong. :smashfrea

BrudLee 10-26-2005 08:49 AM

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[QUOTE=mooby]I think she has some kind of deal with the post, like in her contract it says whenever the Redskins win, she gets the week off and doesn't have to write an article.[/QUOTE]
Here's to a long vacation.

56FAN 10-26-2005 09:55 AM

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I don't even bother reading her column, and without integrity what does a writer really have. everyone steps in it from time to time. but to act like theres nothing wrong and continue on is wrong. hopefully the light will come on and she will see her one way writing, if not i need not worry because i won't be reading it.


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