Charlie Kirk Assassinated.
 

Charlie Kirk dead after shooting at Utah Valley University event,


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/us/live/charlie-kirk-shooting-live-updates-conservative-activist-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-school-says-190606372.html[/url]

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Lived and died by his own rhetoric.

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the bipolarization of our society exemplified:
my brother and i grew up fairly in sync politically. We both have an oldest son where we raised similarly. Both are mid 20's.
one cried almost inconsolably
one nearly shouted for joy

If this had been a liberal commentator, I am pretty sure the roles would have been reversed.

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[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/maga-calls-vengeance-following-charlie-042127234.html[/url]


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[B][SIZE="5"]MAGA Calls For Vengeance Following Charlie Kirk’s Killing[/SIZE]
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In the wake of Charlie Kirk’s killing on Wednesday, right-wing commentators and activists pledged to avenge the act of violence and called for payback in explicit statements baselessly blaming “the left.”

[B]“Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it?” Fox News host Jesse Watterssaid in a Wednesday segment. [/B]

Trump ally and right-wing conspiracy theorist[B] Laura Loomer chimed in as well via a post on X, writing: “The best way President Trump can reinforce Charlie’s legacy is by cracking down on the Left with the full force of the government.”[/B]

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Don’t recall them going bonkers over Melissa Hortman but that’s how they roll

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I had to double check to see if it's true when my friend posted this and turns out it is.. Charlie once said this: "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

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Yeah he said plenty of pretty despicable things. Certainly don’t condone what happened to him but with all the wackos in the world today if you keep blowing the dog whistle sooner or later you get bit.

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I realize any murder is horrific but he was a political activist and often antagonized others on purpose he was not an elected Official. The "shock and aw " for his death is over the top IMO. In many locations it superseded any or all 9-11 events. IMPO that's phucked up.

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A Point not to be Overlooked.

[url]https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/we-must-not-posthumously-sanitize[/url]



Yesterday, while giving a campus speech, far-right activist and anti-LGBTQ+ influencer Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a gunman—another grim marker of how political violence has become a recurring feature of American life. Quickly, political figures and pundits rushed to denounce the killing, as they should. But some went further, valorizing and lionizing a man who built his career on contempt of people he viewed as lesser. Political violence is corrosive and we must not excuse it—killing Charlie Kirk was horrific. But we also must not sanitize the memory of a man who wished harm on those he disagreed with, and who spread a message of hate to anyone willing to listen or pay him to so. We can denounce the violent killing of Charlie Kirk without praising his abhorrent legacy.

Yesterday, Gavin Newsom tweeted that we should “continue the work” of Charlie Kirk and honor his memory. This morning, centrist columnist Ezra Klein published a column titled “Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics The Right Way.” Both paint a portrait of an open-minded Kirk, a man of dialogue and principle. But this is not his legacy. To call for “continuing his work” or to praise how he “practiced politics” is to erase what that work actually was: a relentless campaign of hate directed at LGBTQ+ people, racial and ethnic minorities, and anyone who refused to fall in line.

I first reported on Charlie Kirk years ago, at the beginning of the modern anti-LGBTQ+ panic—back when Riley Gaines was rising to far-right fame and her fifth-place swim finish was weaponized against transgender people. In one interview with Gaines on Real America’s Voice, Kirk railed against “the decline of American men” and blamed it for transgender equality. Then he added that people should have “just took care of” transgender people “the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and 60s.” Let’s be clear about what that meant: the 1950s and 60s were not kind to transgender people. The “standard treatments” were lobotomy, shock therapy, and involuntary institutionalization. Police commissioners openly described queer people as “a cancer in the community” and promoted “vigilant detecting.” Violence was the norm. So when someone calls for “continuing his work” or praises him for “practicing politics the right way,” this is the work they are honoring.


Charlie Kirk’s violent rhetoric toward transgender people in that clip was not an aberration—it was his brand. He preached hate and violence as a matter of routine. In another interview, he mocked Christians who followed scripture about loving their neighbor, scoffing that God also “calls for the stoning of gay people,” which he described as “God’s perfect law.” This was not a slip of the tongue. Hate was and continued to be central to his message. So when people invoke Kirk’s “work” and urge us to carry it forward, when they valorize him as some open-minded political figure, this is what they are valorizing: praising violence, contempt for human dignity, and the politics of fear dressed up as principle.

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in this country you have the right to free speech, kirk exercised that right and sadly it cost him his life

i do not condone any of his beliefs but his assassination is a chip in our democracy; just because you don't like the message doesn't give you the right to silence it

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Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic

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[quote=Chico23231;1376246]Left wing violence is a serious problem.


[B]The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. [/B]There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

[B]Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic[/B][/quote]

So much BS here hard to know where to start.
Charlie Kirk’s violent rhetoric toward transgender people was not an aberration—it was his brand. He preached hate and violence as a matter of routine. In another interview, he mocked Christians who followed scripture about loving their neighbor, scoffing that God also “calls for the stoning of gay people,” which he described as “God’s perfect law.” This was not a slip of the tongue. Hate was and continued to be central to his message. So when people invoke Kirk’s “work” and urge us to carry it forward, when they valorize him as some open-minded political figure, this is what they are valorizing: praising violence, contempt for human dignity, and the politics of fear dressed up as principle.

Chico I like how you ignored the political violence when the reps in Minnesota were gunned down and then you ignored the right wing nut violence in Charlottesville VA and of course Jan 6th Insurrection. Freedom of Speech is the right of every American but there has always been limits, you can't scream fire in a movie theater is always the example but you can't libel and there is a restriction on hate speech as well you can't build gallows in front of the Nations Capitol and threaten to kill the VP( yes the Right did that). Kirks death was horrific and to celebrate and assignation is sick. I have lived through too many to ever do that, your ignorance to political violence is staggering. Like many on the right you never had this type of response to school shootings but the moral outrage now is almost funny. Murder in all forms is wrong and shouldn't need to be said people commenting on a man who made his living attacking other Americans and their way of life becuase he didn't like it, was taking chances . As Matty said he lived by his own rhetoric and he died by it, that's not celebrating it, that is an honest opinion and evaluation of what happen to him. People , Teachers , Firemen , Secret Service employees etc. have free speech too and can voice their opinions and should be able to without retribution . Many of those terminated will be in court. It's you that should be ashamed of this incident and the hate that the right has caused in this Country under trump a president who has endorsed his political party to be violent and they have embraced it.

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This for you chico.............................


[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/outrage-pro-trump-rapper-country-190441555.html[/url]

[B][SIZE="5"]Outrage as pro-Trump rapper and country singer release pro-lynching song: ‘Hang ‘em up high at sundown’[/SIZE][/B]

A white rapper known for viral anthems supporting Donald Trump and Republican officials has released a music video with a country singer calling for public lynchings.

Over a banjo riff, the chorus of “Good vs Evil” from MAGA rapper Forgiato Blow and country singer JJ Lawhorn repeats instructions for hanging people at “sundown,” an apparent reference to “sundown towns” that violently enforce racial segregation.

The song calls for “a big tall tree and a short piece of rope” to “hang ‘em up high at sundown” and “leave ‘em swinging so the folks all know you don’t mess around in our town.”

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If you and others are saying “he lived by his rhetoric and died by rhetoric”…you are justifying killing half the country that agrees with the views.

Having a different opinion, being a Christian, supporting a different political party is NOT preaching hate, not being a Nazi and not supporting fascism. Grow the fuck the up little pathetic people

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[quote=Chico23231;1376251]If you and others are saying “he lived by his rhetoric and died by rhetoric”…you are justifying killing half the country that agrees with the views.

Having a different opinion, being a Christian, supporting a different political party [B]is NOT preaching hate,[/B] not being a Nazi and not supporting fascism. Grow the fuck the up little pathetic people[/quote]

Chico = Hypocrite


Charlie Kirk did just that preach hate.

Did he deserve what he got, no. Did he cause his own death, a case can be made for it. There is a big difference.

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[quote=Chico23231;1376246]Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic[/quote]

I rarely post here in this side of the forum however I do come here sometimes to learn people's perspectives as I always want to learn and understand all sides' perspective on all topics. In this case, I have to say something, for you to blame this solely on the democrats is shortsighted. There are evidence-based researches that shows the political violence have grown in the last few years and the violence came from both sides. On top of that, we literally have politicians who promote violence (directly or indirectly).

When you turn a blind eye to your party's wrongdoings, you are doing exactly what you are angry at the other party about - ignoring their own party's wrongdoings and being angry with the opposite party for the exactly same wrongdoings. By engaging in this action, you are contributing to the endless vicious cycle that has potentials of breaking this country apart.

Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer.

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This seems interesting considering the political climate.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-department-study-far-right-extremist-violence[/url]

US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence

[B]Report finding rightwing extremists have killed more Americans than other domestic terrorist groups vanished from DoJ website[/B]


The US justice department has scrubbed a study from its website concluding that far-right extremists have killed far more Americans than any other domestic terrorist group, just days after a gunman fatally shot the prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk.



The report, now archived, titled What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism, vanished from the Department of Justice website between 12 and 13 September, according to Daniel Malmar, a PhD student studying online extremism at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, who had been monitoring the page. Kirk, the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally, was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University on 10 September.



The vanished study opened with: “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”
The National Institute of Justice study, which was based on research spanning three decades, represented one of the most comprehensive government assessments of domestic terrorism patterns. It found that “militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States” and that “the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism”.

But the findings align with independent research from the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which analyzed 893 terrorist plots between 1994 and 2020. That study concluded: “Rightwing attacks and plots account for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994.”



In congressional testimony in 2023, Heidi Beirich, the executive vice-president of Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, told lawmakers as an expert witness that “data on acts of political violence clearly shows that it is the far right that is driving terrorism in the US, including targeting and, in certain cases, murdering law enforcement”.



“That is not to say there is no violence from far-left actors,” she continued, “it is just simply not on the scale or as deadly as what is coming from far-right actors.”

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[quote=Chico23231;1376246]Left wing violence is a serious problem.


The examples of the Left’s frequent recourse to terror, mayhem, and death abound. There is formally extralegal violence, which includes the murder of Kirk, the transgender killers of small children, the deliberate creation of insecure common spaces in which assaults and deaths occur, the murders of Jews in public, shooters targeting conservative organizations, and the various attempts to kill conservative presidents, Supreme Court justices, and congressmen. There is also regime-sanctioned mass violence—most significantly the Black Lives Matter insurrection during the summer of 2020. Additionally, there are varieties of formal and networked repression, from government-imposed pandemic restrictions and iniquitous racial/ethnic preferentialism to societally enforced cancel culture and speech codes.

It is worth noting that this is not especially incisive or contrarian analysis: everyone knows it. Everyone knows that the Left is the violent faction in American public life today. Everyone knows that shop windows were boarded up in November 2020 out of fear of the Left’s reaction to the election, not the Right’s. Everyone knows there is no threat to public order in response to the murder of Charlie Kirk as there was after the death of George Floyd. Everyone knows that a gathering of pro-Palestinians carries with it a high potential for violence, but a gathering of pro-Israel partisans does not. Everyone knows there is a national network of street fighters on the Left, not on the Right. Everyone knows that colleges have to worry about security for conservative events, not leftist ones.

Everyone knows

And the thought this is the “fringe”, that lie was destroyed this week. This murder was celebrated on social media by nurses, soldiers, healthcare professionals, government workers, professors and teachers.

Political violence and murder are an endorsed democrat mainstream view now. Pathetic little people…just pathetic[/quote]

Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.

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I see his supporters calling him a good Christian, good grief

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[quote=mooby;1376265]Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.[/quote]

Don’t forget about the opportunity to blame transgenders, they are literally obsessed with blaming 1% of the population for all of society’s woes

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[quote=mooby;1376265]Hell yeah brother, knew you wouldn't miss out an opportunity to use CK's death as a prime opportunity to attack liberals. Just because it's MAGA on MAGA crime doesn't mean it can't be useful to advance the cause.[/quote]

As we know from the DA press conference the other day when charges were announced, straight from the investigators: he was a leftist, left leaning politically who became more active over the last 2 years. The murderer stated he hates Charlie Kirk politics and what he said. He was in a relationship with a tranny.

He was a democrat leftist Mooby who was into trannys

Sorry this is happening to you

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[quote=Giantone;1376254]Chico = Hypocrite


Charlie Kirk did just that preach hate.

Did he deserve what he got, no. [B]Did he cause his own death, a case can be made for it[/B]. There is a big difference.[/quote]

I'm going to disagree with this. Here you have a killer that felt Kirk was a hateful person but saw nothing wrong with killing him for his views? That is hateful and far more hateful than anything Kirk has ever done.

Personally this pisses me off. I miss the days when I was called an extremist and leftist for thinking everyone should have access to health care and nutritious food should not be tied to market value. Chico is not wrong in that leftist violence is a problem. Democrats say they are the party of empathy but those on social media that lean left mocking this death, and yes I recognize as a vocal minority, but it was done and unnecessary.

Also, it wasn't too long ago that democrat leadership was making same comments as Pam Bondi on the suppression of First Amendment rights. Of which Kirk would've lost his shit hearing her make that comment.

We have a problem and leadership on both sides is failing to develop a solution.

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Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).[/QUOTE]

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1376277]
I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.[/quote]


Do you not think democrat parents also had to explain when their children ask them questions about republicans' wrongdoings?

Do you truly believe that none of people within your party endorse and/or are doing similar things?


My friend, you are doing exactly what I'm saying that you are doing.. You are focused on the pain that Democrats have created for you & your loved ones and ignoring the fact that your party is creating the same pain for Democrats. Just as what Democrats are doing, focusing on the pain created by Republicans and ignoring that their party is doing the same thing. The pain and anger you are feeling are real. Just as the pain and anger Democrats are feeling are real. Thus, the endless vicious cycle you are participating in.

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[quote=Chico23231;1376277]Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).[/quote]

[quote]I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.[/quote]

Mainstream view? Just stop dude. I’ve yet to personally come across anyone I know that thinks that way, left or right. Get off social media and Fox News and touch some grass.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1376276]I'm going to disagree with this. Here you have a killer that felt Kirk was a hateful person but saw nothing wrong with killing him for his views? That is hateful and far more hateful than anything Kirk has ever done.

Personally this pisses me off. I miss the days when I was called an extremist and leftist for thinking everyone should have access to health care and nutritious food should not be tied to market value. Chico is not wrong in that leftist violence is a problem. Democrats say they are the party of empathy but those on social media that lean left mocking this death, and yes I recognize as a vocal minority, but it was done and unnecessary.

Also, it wasn't too long ago that democrat leadership was making same comments as Pam Bondi on the suppression of First Amendment rights. Of which Kirk would've lost his shit hearing her make that comment.

We have a problem and leadership on both sides is failing to develop a solution.[/quote]

I agree with what you're saying. My point was Charlie Kirk sought out just not differing views he delighted in being antagonistic in his interviews debates whatever. He could very well have shared his views without being an ass about his beliefs. What's funny is the right celebrating the lose of freedom of speech to people when Charlie Kirk would have defend the right to say whatever it is they wanted.

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[quote=MTK;1376272]Don’t forget about the opportunity to blame transgenders, they are literally obsessed with blaming 1% of the population for all of society’s woes[/quote]

[url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-attempted-kavanaugh-assassin-identifies-as-transgender-woman-legal-filings-show[/url]

EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin Identifies As Transgender Woman, Legal Filings Show
Lawyers for the attempted assassin say he now goes by 'female pronouns' as he faces a 30 year prison sentence.

Another liberal democrat assassin…used to be a he….now a she


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[quote=Chico23231;1376277]Edit: I want to add this since the emotions are wildly high all over the country and it is very easy to make assumptions when people are emotional. Chico, it seems like you are personally impacted by the death of Kirk, I'm very sorry that you had to experience this. I personally barely knew anything about Kirk prior to the death, and after watching a few of his debates after learning about his death - while I do not agree with a lot of his perspectives, I am not happy that he was killed. I have no doubt that you will agree with me, violence is not the answer to almost all scenarios (there are a very few people on this planet who are purely evil and enjoy seeing people suffer regardless of who it is - those types of people do not deserve to live).[/quote]

I have questions about this from my kids. I have to explain why some people are celebrating his death

I have to explain why 14 teachers from VA may lose their licenses to teach because they celebrate someone being killed on a college campus in front of their kids.

[B]This is a mainstream Democrat liberal view, they endorse killing people because they dont agree politically. Thanks why they keep attempting it.[/B][/QUOTE]


chico your lies are getting worse. No one is celebrating his murder, the right wing nuts can't stand the commentary / free speech so they punish anyone with a differing opinions, did your children ask about why republicans are destroying the constitution? the right wing nuts can't win anything the right way so now they use a Mans murder to stop free speech
Did they ask questions about Pelosi's 82 year old Husband attacked with a hammer. Did they ask questions when the Democratic rep from Minnesota were shot and killed and her husband and dog were all so killed what did you say, did you tell them about the sick stuff you post hear? What were their question when the sicko republican ran down people at a peaceful protest in Charlotte's VA. ......................we're waiting?

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[quote=Chico23231;1376296][url]https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-attempted-kavanaugh-assassin-identifies-as-transgender-woman-legal-filings-show[/url]

EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Kavanaugh Assassin Identifies As Transgender Woman, Legal Filings Show
Lawyers for the attempted assassin say he now goes by 'female pronouns' as he faces a 30 year prison sentence.

Another liberal democrat assassin…used to be a he….now a she


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[url]https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/mass-shootings-caused-by-trans-lgbtq-people/[/url]

[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/majority-of-us-mass-shooters-are-cis-men-not-transgender-or-non-binary-people-idUSL1N363273/[/url]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/domestic-terrorism-data/[/url]

Re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated.
 

‘Dangerous as hell’: Ted Cruz compares FCC chair’s threats against ABC to mob tactics

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/dangerous-hell-ted-cruz-compares-181531390.html[/url]

Good to see. Loyalty should be what you think is right for the country, not what is right for your party or any one person.

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[quote=MTK;1376301][url]https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/mass-shootings-caused-by-trans-lgbtq-people/[/url]

[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/majority-of-us-mass-shooters-are-cis-men-not-transgender-or-non-binary-people-idUSL1N363273/[/url]

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/domestic-terrorism-data/[/url][/quote]

Political violence committed by Transgender individuals…included the Antifa community support by folks on this very site…is abnormally extremely high.

If you want to get into criminal stats broken down by demographic groups I guarantee democrats will not like it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1376303]Political violence committed by Transgender individuals…included the Antifa community support by folks on this very site…is abnormally extremely high.

If you want to get into criminal stats broken down by demographic groups I guarantee democrats will not like it.[/quote]


Again chico , your political beliefs blind you to the truth. You want stats .......read up and cry! What questions do they have about this, what did you tell them?

[url]https://cvp.ucdavis.edu/insights/difference-between-republicans-and-maga-republicans-violence[/url]

[B]The difference between Republicans and MAGA Republicans is violenc[/B]e

One of the first steps toward changing the nation’s trajectory is understanding it better. In July we published the first report from a nationwide survey, presenting whole-population data on support for and willingness to engage in political violence. I discussed that report in this commentary.

A critical element of the public health approach is knowing who’s most at risk; such knowledge underlies effective prevention work. With that in mind, we’ve just published two studies of variation in the prevalence of violence-related extreme beliefs and in support of and willingness to engage in political violence.

[B]The first study was conducted with 8,620 respondents drawn from the IPSOS Knowledge Panel and focused on variations associated with political party affiliation and political ideology. [SIZE="5"]We found that, on the whole, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to endorse the use of physical force or violence to achieve specific political objectives[/SIZE]. This is consistent with prior survey research and other evidence that the threat from domestic extremism arises chiefly from the right.[/B]

The second study was conducted with 7,255 respondents from that sample of 8,620 for whom information about the respondents’ party affiliation, 2020 voting information and opinion on the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election was available. The study focused specifically on MAGA (Make America Great Again) Republicans, defined as Republicans who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and who agreed strongly or very strongly with the statement that “the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.” Among the respondents were 1,128 “MAGA Republicans,” 640 “strong” Republicans, 1,571 “other” Republicans and 3,916 non-Republicans (Democrats and those reporting no party affiliation).

This study addressed questions arising from two recent speeches President Biden gave in Maryland and one in Pennsylvania: Are MAGA Republicans a distinct subset of Republicans? Are they more likely than others to endorse political violence?

[url]https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/20/politics/political-violence-data-analysis[/url]
[B]
The data doesn’t back up Trump’s claims that the left is more violent[/B]

A study from the libertarian Cato Institute this year tracked about 3,600 murders from politically motivated attacks over the past 50 years. The vast majority of them (about 3,000) came on one day: September 11, 2001.

Cato found right-wing ideology accounted for 391 of the 618 non-9/11 political. murders, a clear majority. Left-wing ideology accounted for 65, with other motivations, like foreign nationalism, Islamism, and separatism, accounting for the rest.

In the last five years alone, the proportions are similar: 44 people died at the hands of those with right-wing ideology – a majority for all politically motivated attacks in this span – compared to 18 at the hands of those with left-wing ideology, according to the study.

The data echo a study from the National Institute of Justice — the DOJ’s research agency – last year. It found that since 1990, far-right extremists killed more than six times as many people in ideologically motivated attacks (520 people) as far-left extremists (78).

[url]https://www.newsweek.com/department-justice-terrorism-study-deleted-charlie-kirk-left-wing-2131683[/url]
[B]DOJ Deletes Study Alleging Rise In Far-Right Terrorism In US[/B]

[url]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5507682-doj-removes-far-right-extremism-study/[/url]
[B]
DOJ quietly removes study showing right wing attacks ‘outpace’ those by left[/B]

Re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated.
 

[quote=Chico23231;1376303]Political violence committed by Transgender individuals…included the Antifa community support by folks on this very site…is abnormally extremely high.

If you want to get into criminal stats broken down by demographic groups I guarantee democrats will not like it.[/quote]

Something else chico has lied about................................


[url]https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/no-link-yet-charlie-kirk-killing-left-wing-groups/3991308/[/url]


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[B][SIZE="5"]No link found yet between Charlie Kirk's killing and left-wing groups: officials[/SIZE][/B]

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I can accept no ties yet with left wing groups with the murderer

As long as we all understand he has been confirmed he is a left wing nut and it was political act of violence as he confirmed he hated Charlie Kirk politics . only a fucking lying piece of dog shit would say he was from the right, groyper (what ever the fuck that is) like Jimmy Kimmel

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Also let’s check in on the left

This is by my count six arrestable offenses since Charlie’s murder and they’re all left-motivated violence and damage. Crazy guy protecting the shooter, assault on Kirk mourners (TX), vandalism on Kirk vigil (AZ), attempted bombing of a Fox truck, shooting at ABC affiliate.

The latest

The man suspected of firing 3 shots into the window of an ABC affiliate in California after the Kimmel decision is a former teacher's union legislative director whose X feed is full of far-left rhetoric encouraging escalation.


Another left wing violent piece of shit

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[quote=Chico23231;1376310]Also let’s check in on the left

This is by my count six arrestable offenses since Charlie’s murder and they’re all left-motivated violence and damage. Crazy guy protecting the shooter, assault on Kirk mourners (TX), vandalism on Kirk vigil (AZ), attempted bombing of a Fox truck, shooting at ABC affiliate.

The latest

The man suspected of firing 3 shots into the window of an ABC affiliate in California after the Kimmel decision is a former teacher's union legislative director whose X feed is full of far-left rhetoric encouraging escalation.


Another left wing violent piece of shit[/quote]


LOL, as expected you can't count or read.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/20/four-arrested-washington-state-hate-crime-trans-woman[/url]

Four people – including three teenagers – are accused of a hate crime in Washington state after being arrested in connection with an alleged attack on a transgender woman that left the victim hospitalized, according to authorities.

The Renton police department said the four suspects in the case first argued with the 39-year-old woman on Monday evening – then beat her after she saw them again later. Investigators say they hurled homophobic slurs at the victim, who was attacked on a street near a transit center in Renton and suffered serious injuries.

“They chased her, knocked her to the ground, and repeatedly assaulted her,” police said in their statement.

Police documents obtained by ABC elaborate, recounting how the woman told officers she first encountered the group while telling them to stop “harassing” people at a local transit center. That drew the group’s attention, and they began “charging towards her”, the police documents alleged.

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[quote=Giantone;1376311]LOL, as expected you can't count or read.

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/20/four-arrested-washington-state-hate-crime-trans-woman[/url]

Four people – including three teenagers – are accused of a hate crime in Washington state after being arrested in connection with an alleged attack on a transgender woman that left the victim hospitalized, according to authorities.

The Renton police department said the four suspects in the case first argued with the 39-year-old woman on Monday evening – then beat her after she saw them again later. Investigators say they hurled homophobic slurs at the victim, who was attacked on a street near a transit center in Renton and suffered serious injuries.

“They chased her, knocked her to the ground, and repeatedly assaulted her,” police said in their statement.

Police documents obtained by ABC elaborate, recounting how the woman told officers she first encountered the group while telling them to stop “harassing” people at a local transit center. That drew the group’s attention, and they began “charging towards her”, the police documents alleged.[/quote]


chico, what questions do you kids as about this?