Coming soon- 18th regular season
 

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Obviously the players union and nfl will have to negotiate this.

The current labor deal is until the 2030 season. The current tv contract is until the 2033 season but has an opt out for 2029. I think the nfl will definitely opt out of the tv contract in 29. My guess the NFL wants the 18th game no later than 2029 but definitely earlier.

It will be interesting to see the give and take.

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NFL is a bunch of greedy cucks. They are going to ruin the NFL by having it on way too much. 16 games was already plenty. Now even 17 isn't good enough. I bet the ultimate goal is 20 games.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1372741]NFL is a bunch of greedy cucks. They are going to ruin the NFL by having it on way too much. 16 games was already plenty. Now even 17 isn't good enough. I bet the ultimate goal is 20 games.[/quote]

i'd be fine with 52 games . . . lol . . . watching other sports pales in comparison to me, but in reality, with the abuse these guys take, 17 is enough!!

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I'd say the only way to expand to more games is a bigger roster limit and revising the practice squad rules again. Maybe even the draft too. I doubt many players, especially linemen, could healthily sustain more than 18 games, not to mention the playoffs. And do it for multiple seasons.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1372740]Obviously the players union and nfl will have to negotiate this.

The current labor deal is until the 2030 season. The current tv contract is until the 2033 season but has an opt out for 2029. I think the nfl will definitely opt out of the tv contract in 29. My guess the NFL wants the 18th game no later than 2029 but definitely earlier.

It will be interesting to see the give and take.[/quote]

If I can ask a question here. Players salaries are based on a 17 game season for now, so what happens to players under contract when a extra game is added? Is the salary cap increased to add for the games?

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[quote=Giantone;1372753]If I can ask a question here. Players salaries are based on a 17 game season for now, so what happens to players under contract when a extra game is added? Is the salary cap increased to add for the games?[/quote]

The players association will absolutely ask for a pro-rata increase in salary, as well they should. Otherwise, the NFL profits and the players take a pay-cut.

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They'll get an adjustment per extra game, as they did when going to 17 games, but it's arguable that's not proportional to the increased risk of injury. And expect a drop to 2 PS games. I'm curious if the value to coaches of PS games would mean they keep 2, even if they increase to 20 games in due course.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1372755]They'll get an adjustment per extra game, as they did when going to 17 games, but it's arguable that's not proportional to the increased risk of injury. And expect a drop to 2 PS games. I'm curious if the value to coaches of PS games would mean they keep 2, even if they increase to 20 games in due course.[/quote]

There shouldn't even be a pre-season. 1 game at most for the fringe roster guys coaches are still making a decision on. Football is too violent to play any more games than absolutely necessary. 1 pre-season game and 17 regular season games is plenty of football!

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Count in me in the camp that wants an EVEN number of games. 17 is not right considering some teams get an extra home game. Honestly surprised the NFL even does this considering it's blatantly unfair but they know how addicted fans are. 18 is too many reg. season games. 16 was perfect but doubt we see that again.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1372767]Count in me in the camp that wants an EVEN number of games. 17 is not right considering some teams get an extra home game. Honestly surprised the NFL even does this considering it's blatantly unfair but they know how addicted fans are. 18 is too many reg. season games. 16 was perfect but doubt we see that again.[/quote]

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16 was the perfect number of games. Greed from the owners is the only reason for the expansion. The NFL is a goldmine so the owners can get away with murder. More games does nothing to improve the product. If anything it just waters it down. More games = more injuries. Like I said, NFL is ran by cucks.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1372758]There shouldn't even be a pre-season. 1 game at most for the fringe roster guys coaches are still making a decision on. Football is too violent to play any more games than absolutely necessary. 1 pre-season game and 17 regular season games is plenty of football![/quote]

As someone who has played and coached over here (amateur level probably not even HS equivalent back then), at least one PS game is needed like a shakedown cruise for a ship. Rookies and fringe players can only do so much in practice, even in controlled scrimmages, you need a competitive game environment to bring out those competitive juices and prep them for the regular season. There's something a game brings out, even a PS game, that you can't get from practice.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1372747]i'd be fine with 52 games . . . lol . . . watching other sports pales in comparison to me, but in reality, with the abuse these guys take, 17 is enough!![/quote]

i love football but i think i love it so much because its such a small window each year of viewing

basketball i love anymore but take last year the celtics my fav team made it all the way to a championship

by the time the nba finals started it felt like my job watching

growing up we watch every Celtics and every red sox game; it became mind numbing lol

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18 games was the plan all along when they went to 17. There will also be 2 byes and probably other concessions for the players like expanded rosters.

And in the end more games = more money. The NFL cash cow just keeps growing.

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[quote=MTK;1372783]18 games was the plan all along when they went to 17. There will also be 2 byes and probably other concessions for the players like expanded rosters.

And in the end more games = more money. The NFL cash cow just keeps growing.[/quote]

Gotta do the 2 byes if 18 games. They want to stretch the Super Bowl to President day weekend

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1372752]I'd say the only way to expand to more games is a bigger roster limit and revising the practice squad rules again. Maybe even the draft too. I doubt many players, especially linemen, could healthily sustain more than 18 games, not to mention the playoffs. And do it for multiple seasons.[/quote]

and 2 byes?

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1372767]Count in me in the camp that wants an EVEN number of games. 17 is not right considering some teams get an extra home game. Honestly surprised the NFL even does this considering it's blatantly unfair but they know how addicted fans are. 18 is too many reg. season games. 16 was perfect but doubt we see that again.[/quote]

when they went to 17 i though the extra game would be used so each team could play a game in europe, mexico, etc. and then each team would still have 8 home games. that don't work if they change to 18

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[quote=Chico23231;1372785]Gotta do the 2 byes if 18 games. They want to stretch the Super Bowl to President day weekend[/quote]

Just going to 18 games, takes you to President’s Day. A 2nd bye would take you beyond President’s Day, if you have a bye after Championship games.

I think you start the season on Labor Day, like you used to. Then have a season from Labor Day to President’s Day. One bye early in the season and one bye later in the season.

Of course this is about money. You can add 2 weeks- 18th game and 2nd Bye. That’s more money. The nfl can now have all teams participating in one international game. I heard talk of an international package of 16 weeks- which would be sold to network/streamer. More money. It wouldn’t shock me if playoffs went to 16 teams.

The 18 game season could see franchise expansion.


I think players will ultimately agree because of more money but will want concessions. 2nd Bye is a must. Expansion of roster. Gameday roster and overall roster. Changes in the offseason. Think players put up a proposal to get rid of all offseason camps and add some time before preseason/Training camp. Of course health issues. I could also see the draft reduced a round or two. Players try to get as many concessions as possible and that article I posted listed them.

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More games = worse overall product

But NFL gives no fucks about the product, as long as it prints money.

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[quote=88Commanders00;1372792]Just going to 18 games, takes you to President’s Day. A 2nd bye would take you beyond President’s Day, if you have a bye after Championship games.

I think you start the season on Labor Day, like you used to. Then have a season from Labor Day to President’s Day. One bye early in the season and one bye later in the season.

Of course this is about money. You can add 2 weeks- 18th game and 2nd Bye. That’s more money. The nfl can now have all teams participating in one international game. I heard talk of an international package of 16 weeks- which would be sold to network/streamer. More money. It wouldn’t shock me if playoffs went to 16 teams.

The 18 game season could see franchise expansion.


I think players will ultimately agree because of more money but will want concessions. 2nd Bye is a must. Expansion of roster. Gameday roster and overall roster. Changes in the offseason. Think players put up a proposal to get rid of all offseason camps and add some time before preseason/Training camp. Of course health issues. I could also see the draft reduced a round or two. Players try to get as many concessions as possible and that article I posted listed them.[/quote]

but two less preseason games would let you start 2 weeks earlier

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1372773]As someone who has played and coached over here (amateur level probably not even HS equivalent back then), at least one PS game is needed like a shakedown cruise for a ship. Rookies and fringe players can only do so much in practice, even in controlled scrimmages, you need a competitive game environment to bring out those competitive juices and prep them for the regular season. There's something a game brings out, even a PS game, that you can't get from practice.[/quote]

I agree with much of what you say but I still think they need a min of 4 preseason games When I played I hated them but they really did help the team.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1372802]but two less preseason games would let you start 2 weeks earlier[/quote]

They are definitely pushing the SuperBowl to President’s Day.