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Yo that dude Worthy is gonna be a problem

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Lamar Jackson is just a glorified runner. Still a fucking sham he got MVP last year with stats not even in top 5 QBs. Just unreal.

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I always laugh my ass off when people talk up Lamar Jax…he can’t throw the ball.

He’s Carmela Anthony of the NFL, the most overrated player in the NFL, maybe in my lifetime.

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Lamar Jackson simply won't ever be able to throw the ball accurately enough to win a SB.

Flowers was wide open, he missed him by 5 yards.

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KC pretty much smoked them but they kept letting Bal back in the game

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This game would have been better in like week 7...both teams trying to figure out some new players. Lamar and that offense at times are just very frustrating to watch. I think they miss Greg Roman...he at least gave them an identity, now they don't have one other than....hey Lamar...do something great!

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I hope KK was watching Ravens and not seeing a premonition of his offense


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Yeah, I don't think JD will run nearly as much as we saw Lamar run last night. I also expect that JD will be more accurate with the ball. I'm hoping for about a 60/40 run/pass split, with JD running on occasion, and getting the ball out quickly so Terry, Luke and Company can make some plays.

Hopefully the D keeps it close.

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Take Lamar off the Ravens and they're a 500 team. For all his faults he's still a great player. Problem is he's not an elite player and the guy that plays for KC is. Great game though, Ravens still will be there fighting to make it to the SB in the AFC I think, but they're biggest problem is Patrick Mahomes.

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I wonder if the Ravens will move on from Jackson or can they in the next few years? It's like he's a big reason why they're a really good team but he's also a big reason why they'll never win a SB with him. Tough spot to be in.

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2 time MVP/first team all pro isn’t elite?

Oy

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The dude ran for 122 yards and threw for 275 or something like that last night. Yeah -- bad through missing Flowers, but this is a tough crowd.

Not sure I can agree with mredskins that KC was smoking B'more -- the Ravens had more first downs, more total yards (100 more) and rushing yards (185 rushing yards v. 72 for KC), better time of possession, better 3rd down conversion rate, and more sacks. But for some terrible clock management (is RR on their staff?) and a toe over the endzone, the Ravens could well have walked into Arrowhead and beat the champs. In all, great game and start to the season.

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The Ravens may not be elite, but Lamar is not the reason for that


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[quote=MTK;1364158]2 time MVP/first team all pro isn’t elite?

Oy[/quote]

It depends on how you judge an elite player. To me the elite players are few and far between like Mahomes or Justin Jefferson. The best of the best. I don't put Lamar in that category. I did say Lamar is a great player, which I believe he is. But there's a difference between being a great player and an elite one.

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Mahomes is in another class all by himself

It’s ok to call LJ elite, multiple MVPs/all pros is elite

He’s won nearly 75% of his regular season games, again pretty elite

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Regarding Lamar both arguments can be true. He is an elite QB and without him I agree they are a .500 team if that. But there is also no question at this point that his limitations as a passer is the reason they have not advanced in the playoffs and I too highly doubt he will ever be a Super Bowl winning QB.

Like the Cowboys this is just such a tough situation to be in, they don't give out rings for regular season accomplishments.

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I agree LJ's their best chance to win, but I can't call him elite because he's effectively a running back that can pass. To be elite he has to be able to lead his team to the promised land and it looks like he can't. If he wins the big one, maybe.

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On the Eagles game, something went wrong on Sky TV over here last night so I can't watch the game. Only got 5 mins. of highlights.

The Packers looked like they should have been 2 TD's up early but settled for FG's. Was it poor offence or good defence? Curious, given the result, whether the Eagles D is all that good this season.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1364176]On the Eagles game, something went wrong on Sky TV over here last night so I can't watch the game. Only got 5 mins. of highlights.

The Packers looked like they should have been 2 TD's up early but settled for FG's. Was it poor offence or good defence? Curious, given the result, whether the Eagles D is all that good this season.[/quote]

The big takeaway is Barkley is a fit with the Eagles and they look like an elite offense because of him.

Defense of eagles is a mixed bag, that secondary still looks vulnerable.

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The sheagles had.no business winning that game. Penalties were fast and furious on both sides. Packers play calling, a missed fg, and flags kept them out of the end zone. Barkley looked great, that's not good. Hurts still sucks IMO had a couple lucky throws. And that fuckin Fanook ass cheat butt touching play made several appearances. Refs sucked ASS on what became the final drive and sealed the win for philly twice.

Jordan love.got.injured attempting the subsequent hail Mary. Malik Willis should go work at Wal mart.


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Gay as all hell.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364171]Regarding Lamar both arguments can be true. He is an elite QB and without him I agree they are a .500 team if that. But there is also no question at this point that his limitations as a passer is the reason they have not advanced in the playoffs and I too highly doubt he will ever be a Super Bowl winning QB.

Like the Cowboys this is just such a tough situation to be in, they don't give out rings for regular season accomplishments.[/quote]

Until Lamar can get the Ravens to a SB then I just can't put him in that class of being an elite QB. I don't care about NFL MVP's, it means nothing at this point. You can pile up all the individual awards but if your team can't get to a SB then you're just another great player that couldn't get his team over the hump. You have to put the team on your back and get past KC. You can't play like you did in the Championship game at home and be considered an elite QB. That's just how I see it.

I agree, Dak is kinda in the same boat. He just doesn't play his best ball when it matters most. Go ahead and pile up stats all you want. No one in Dallas cares. You gotta beat SF, you gotta beat Green Bay at home. Now this year Dallas has no running game so more pressure will be on Dak. He will fold like he always does.

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Teams win Super Bowls not individuals.

Even Mahomes doesn't do it alone.

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[quote=MTK;1364184]Teams win Super Bowls not individuals.

Even Mahomes doesn't do it alone.[/quote]

This used to be true, until Tom Brady. Elite QBs who pull rabbits out of a hat in the end is far more common than it used to be. Just look at the endings of some of the post season games on final drives with these two. There are a couple more, just sayin''

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Lamar had the highest scoring defense again last year along with a solid core of offensive talent and top 10 o line and couldn’t get it done…again

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Is there any streaming options that aren't the Sunday Ticket for watching the game tomorrow? With just a single game option (aka I don't need a season pass)? My girl wants me to watch the game at her place tomorrow but she doesn't have cable and I don't want to go to a bar.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1364176]On the Eagles game, something went wrong on Sky TV over here last night so I can't watch the game. Only got 5 mins. of highlights.

The Packers looked like they should have been 2 TD's up early but settled for FG's. Was it poor offence or good defence? Curious, given the result, whether the Eagles D is all that good this season.[/quote]

That must have been an issue specific to Sky. I get Sky through Virgin, I recorded the game and watched it back in full last night. The picture quality was a little poor at times but otherwise no issues.

My main take from the game is that Barkley is gonna be a problem.

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[quote=MTK;1364184]Teams win Super Bowls not individuals.

Even Mahomes doesn't do it alone.[/quote]

Nobody is saying he does it alone. But it's perfectly clear that one player makes a HUGE difference in this game.

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I had checked out on the Commanders once I learned that Snyder was harrassing the witnesses in the sexual misconduct investigation. I just couldn't root for them anymore, when they won he won.

So I've been waiting 2 long years for a game that I really cared about, and I care about this one a great deal. Just bummed that I have to wait an additional 3.5 hours. I'm ready now.

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More good contract news, thanks Dallas!!

Sources: Dak Prescott, Cowboys agree to record $240M deal

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41176649/sources-dak-prescott-cowboys-agree-record-240m-deal[/url]

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1364181]Until Lamar can get the Ravens to a SB then I just can't put him in that class of being an elite QB. I don't care about NFL MVP's, it means nothing at this point. You can pile up all the individual awards but if your team can't get to a SB then you're just another great player that couldn't get his team over the hump. You have to put the team on your back and get past KC. You can't play like you did in the Championship game at home and be considered an elite QB. That's just how I see it.

I agree, Dak is kinda in the same boat. He just doesn't play his best ball when it matters most. Go ahead and pile up stats all you want. No one in Dallas cares. You gotta beat SF, you gotta beat Green Bay at home. Now this year Dallas has no running game so more pressure will be on Dak. He will fold like he always does.[/QUOTE]


Well, Dak just got paid. Let’s hope this makes it hard for Dallas to maintain talent around him. $231 guaranteed is nuts.


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1364201]More good contract news, thanks Dallas!!

Sources: Dak Prescott, Cowboys agree to record $240M deal

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41176649/sources-dak-prescott-cowboys-agree-record-240m-deal[/url][/quote]

Terrible move by Dallas. He is simply not worth it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1364204]Terrible move by Dallas. He is simply not worth it.[/quote]

Terrible move for them, great news for us.

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The Boys were screwed either way. But Dak is still a very good QB and eventually he may figure it out in the playoffs. I would prefer he went somewhere else and then Dallas had no QB. I will be interested to see what their cap situation looks like and how they deal with Micah.

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I think people are learning that pre-season shit doesn't mean a damn thing. Ask Caleb Williams right now. Dude is struggling big time.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1364201]More good contract news, thanks Dallas!!

Sources: Dak Prescott, Cowboys agree to record $240M deal

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41176649/sources-dak-prescott-cowboys-agree-record-240m-deal[/url][/quote]



Just furthering fucking the market for teams and their QBs. Dak isn't worth 60mil/year. That's insane. The gap between QB and the next top position has increased big time. SOon you'll have QBs demanding 50-75% of the salary cap. You can't win championships like this. San Fran showed you can get to the big game without an elite QB.

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Bet Panthers would love a mulligan on that trade to pick Bryce Young. OOffffph

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Vintage Cousins.


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CJ Stroud vs. Anthony Richardson has been a fun match up to watch today.

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[quote=calia;1364214]Vintage Cousins.


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I have been watching this terrible game. Kirk looks terrible. It looks like he really needed the pre season. With every game that Kirk plays subpar the chants for Penix will get louder.

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[quote=calia;1364214]Vintage Cousins.


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Also, Falcons didn’t look ready to play especially on offense. And whoever said the Atlanta Falcons Oline is top 5 should be embarrassed…they got punked today