The Last 4 Years.
 

Has been total chaous. And I can explain it.

Trump went to bed on Election Night 2020 believing he had won. He woke up to different news and because he is too stupid to understand that the mail in ballots are counted last and they were overwhelmingly Democratic voters his natural reaction was that he could not possible lose so the fix must have been in.

Now nobody on FOX or Pubs on the Hill believed that the day after the election. But the voters and viewers did because they buy everything their cult leader is selling. This caused FOX and the Pubs on the Hill to realize they they had to do a 180 and promote this theory that they did not actually believe (See the FOX News settlement and admission) to satisfy their viewers and voters.

This snowballed as millions of Republicans were fed yet more false information because the networks and politicians knew this was what they wanted to hear. It does not matter to them that this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to ever single challenge. This would included cases brought before Trump appointed judges and Republican controlled recounts and audits.

it's all total madness. People I consider friends, smart people, have fallen for this propoganda and will go to their graves convinced the 2020 election was stolen. Losing every single court case, audit and FOX's admission means nothing to them. They are dug in and no amount of facts will change their minds.

On January 6th I never imagined Republicans would react the way they have. McCarthy went from "I'm done with this guy" to being one of his biggest ass kissers overnight and over votes. Votes from brain dead morons who have been convinced that J6 was the work of, wait first it was ANTIFA then it was the FBI in a desperate attempt to blame someione, anyone, other than Trump and his suporters.

It's the damndest thing I have ever seen in politics and I hope I never see it ever again.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363439]Has been total chaous. And I can explain it.

Trump went to bed on Election Night 2020 believing he had won. He woke up to different news and because he is too stupid to understand that the mail in ballots are counted last and they were overwhelmingly Democratic voters his natural reaction was that he could not possible lose so the fix must have been in.

Now nobody on FOX or Pubs on the Hill believed that the day after the election. But the voters and viewers did because they buy everything their cult leader is selling. This caused FOX and the Pubs on the Hill to realize they they had to do a 180 and promote this theory that they did not actually believe (See the FOX News settlement and admission) to satisfy their viewers and voters.

This snowballed as millions of Republicans were fed yet more false information because the networks and politicians knew this was what they wanted to hear. It does not matter to them that this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to ever single challenge. This would included cases brought before Trump appointed judges and Republican controlled recounts and audits.

it's all total madness. People I consider friends, smart people, have fallen for this propoganda and will go to their graves convinced the 2020 election was stolen. Losing every single court case, audit and FOX's admission means nothing to them. They are dug in and no amount of facts will change their minds.

On January 6th I never imagined Republicans would react the way they have. McCarthy went from "I'm done with this guy" to being one of his biggest ass kissers overnight and over votes. Votes from brain dead morons who have been convinced that J6 was the work of, wait first it was ANTIFA then it was the FBI in a desperate attempt to blame someione, anyone, other than Trump and his suporters.

It's the damndest thing I have ever seen in politics and I hope I never see it ever again.[/quote]

The last 8 years have been total chaos, not just the last 4. Trump has to depart from the scene and then I'd expect another 4 -8 years before the chaos finally stops. And re: election night 2020 it was essentially known he lost once AZ got called (11:20pm). He was trailing in all the other swing states except PA and the heavily dem areas/voting (ie mail in like you said had yet to be counted in PA and some of the other states as well). The pundits were calling it for Biden once AZ was declared by FOX just networks didn't go offical until much later.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=nonniey;1363441]The last 8 years have been total chaos, not just the last 4. Trump has to depart from the scene and then I'd expect another 4 -8 years before the chaos finally stops. And re: election night 2020 it was essentially known he lost once AZ got called (11:20pm). He was trailing in all the other swing states except PA and the heavily dem areas/voting (ie mail in like you said had yet to be counted in PA and some of the other states as well). The pundits were calling it for Biden once AZ was declared by FOX just networks didn't go offical until much later.[/quote]

He has this magical spell over his supporters which cause them to ignore the fact that this election held up to every single challenge Trump and the Pubs attempted. The continue to ignore what really happened (such as Maricoppa County which was supposed to be "the first shoe to drop" but ended up wih the Pubs being forced to admit that Biden actually gained votes in the recount) as they consume their information from proven liars such as FOX and then claim it's the libs who have been brainwashed by the MSM. It is just so bizarre.

They will be studying the Trump Cult in our schools for the rest of time. Students will see the videos of J6 and learn about the crimes he has committed and will be laughing at them just as we laughed at the supporters of Joe McCarthy.

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The left has been trying to understand MAGA for almost a full decade now. We've been trying to understand how a group of people can so compromise their principles to idolize a guy who is the antithesis of everything that they claimed makes a decent, honorable person.

These things include, but are not limited to, being a good family man, a good father and husband, a law abiding citizen, a good Christian, a hard worker, a good neighbor, etc., etc. I'd be happy to give MAGA a break and some empathy if somebody can show me that their attitude towards Trump deserves such compassion. But unfortunately the only logical, rational conclusions that we are able to draw does not speak well of MAGA world.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[QUOTE=nonniey;1363441]The last 8 years have been total chaos, not just the last 4. Trump has to depart from the scene and then I'd expect another 4 -8 years before the chaos finally stops. And re: election night 2020 it was essentially known he lost once AZ got called (11:20pm). He was trailing in all the other swing states except PA and the heavily dem areas/voting (ie mail in like you said had yet to be counted in PA and some of the other states as well). The pundits were calling it for Biden once AZ was declared by FOX just networks didn't go offical until much later.[/QUOTE]


The chaos is not going to stop unless conservative media changes. They've driven that base to Trumpism. Trump was only the end result, not the problem.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

Oh I thought you were going to talk about the 2 wars, invasion of illegals, inflation, gas over $3, crime, rents doubling, and stuff like that.

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[quote=Fishingfool;1363940]Oh I thought you were going to talk about the 2 wars, invasion of illegals, inflation, gas over $3, crime, rents doubling, and stuff like that.[/quote]

The political threads here are absolutely 1-sided. Nothing in the history of America has ever been a democrat's fault. Facts be damned. Once racist democrats realized publicly being racist wasn't going to work long-term, magically the 2 parties flipped.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363949]The political threads here are absolutely 1-sided. Nothing in the history of America has ever been a democrat's fault. Facts be damned. Once racist democrats realized publicly being racist wasn't going to work long-term, magically the 2 parties flipped.[/quote]

Nobody said Dems were never at fault. I certainly never did, I'm very critical of them when justified. But we are discussing Trump.

At no time in our nation's history have we had a leader whose followers believe he can do no wrong. There is literally no line he can cross to them and that is very very dangerous.

I am frankly stunned that you accuse the Dems of ignoring the facts. The facts are this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to every single Republican challenge. Those are the facts.

But the facts means nothing to you for some reason. You have been told the election was stolen because your Dear Leader says so and then of course FOX News reinforced this narrative to boost ratings. It does not even matter to you that they have admtting to lying about the 2020 election. HOW CAN THAT NOT MATTER TO YOU?

He has constantly praised the thugs that rioted on our Capitol. Now he is doing a fund raiser for these creatures. This would bury any other politician but with Trump you just don't care that he supports rioters and law breakers.

None of the Trump Cult's behavior is normal. None of it. It's very very dangerous.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363951]Nobody said Dems were never at fault. I certainly never did, I'm very critical of them when justified. But we are discussing Trump.

At no time in our nation's history have we had a leader whose followers believe he can do no wrong. There is literally no line he can cross to them and that is very very dangerous.

I am frankly stunned that you accuse the Dems of ignoring the facts. The facts are this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to every single Republican challenge. Those are the facts.

But the facts means nothing to you for some reason. You have been told the election was stolen because your Dear Leader says so and then of course FOX News reinforced this narrative to boost ratings. It does not even matter to you that they have admtting to lying about the 2020 election. HOW CAN THAT NOT MATTER TO YOU?

He has constantly praised the thugs that rioted on our Capitol. Now he is doing a fund raiser for these creatures. This would bury any other politician but with Trump you just don't care that he supports rioters and law breakers.

None of the Trump Cult's behavior is normal. None of it. It's very very dangerous.[/quote]

The last 4 year under Biden haven't been great and no one can find any post of mine where I say anything different. Like you I am amazed at the MAGA cult and that is what they are. From before he was elected by the "Electoral College" and not by the American people I have been a never trumper. There are a few here who have lowered their profile here over the last few weeks due to the more outrageous BS trump is spouting, they are MAGA but some try to hide it becuase they get called out on it. The Fund raiser and laying a wreath on the Tomb of the "Unknown Soldier" is a disgrace, he is a convicted felon and a habitual liar yet they follow him, it's nothing more then a cult.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363951]Nobody said Dems were never at fault. I certainly never did, I'm very critical of them when justified. But we are discussing Trump.

At no time in our nation's history have we had a leader whose followers believe he can do no wrong. There is literally no line he can cross to them and that is very very dangerous.

I am frankly stunned that you accuse the Dems of ignoring the facts. The facts are this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to every single Republican challenge. Those are the facts.

But the facts means nothing to you for some reason. You have been told the election was stolen because your Dear Leader says so and then of course FOX News reinforced this narrative to boost ratings. It does not even matter to you that they have admtting to lying about the 2020 election. HOW CAN THAT NOT MATTER TO YOU?

He has constantly praised the thugs that rioted on our Capitol. Now he is doing a fund raiser for these creatures. This would bury any other politician but with Trump you just don't care that he supports rioters and law breakers.

None of the Trump Cult's behavior is normal. None of it. It's very very dangerous.[/quote]
Great post.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363949]The political threads here are absolutely 1-sided. Nothing in the history of America has ever been a democrat's fault. Facts be damned. Once racist democrats realized publicly being racist wasn't going to work long-term, magically the 2 parties flipped.[/quote]



Racist Democrats??? Please tell me what is a "Black Job", according to your man trump he created more "Black jobs" than anyone, so I ask again , what is a Black Job?

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1363949]The political threads here are absolutely 1-sided. Nothing in the history of America has ever been a democrat's fault. Facts be damned. Once racist democrats realized publicly being racist wasn't going to work long-term, magically the 2 parties flipped.[/quote]



sorry double post

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[quote=Giantone;1363952]The last 4 year under Biden haven't been great and no one can find any post of mine where I say anything different. Like you I am amazed at the MAGA cult and that is what they are. From before he was elected by the "Electoral College" and not by the American people I have been a never trumper. There are a few here who have lowered their profile here over the last few weeks due to the more outrageous BS trump is spouting, they are MAGA but some try to hide it becuase they get called out on it. The Fund raiser and laying a wreath on the Tomb of the "Unknown Soldier" is a disgrace, he is a convicted felon and a habitual liar yet they follow him, it's nothing more then a cult.[/quote]

This just adds to the stupidity ............


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/trump-slammed-flashing-smile-making-154244642.html[/url]

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I am glad to see the other side represented in this thread. What fun is a message board if everyone agrees?

I look forward to their response to the most recent post I have made, this should be good.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363951]Nobody said Dems were never at fault. I certainly never did, I'm very critical of them when justified. But we are discussing Trump.

At no time in our nation's history have we had a leader whose followers believe he can do no wrong. There is literally no line he can cross to them and that is very very dangerous.

I am frankly stunned that you accuse the Dems of ignoring the facts. The facts are this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to every single Republican challenge. Those are the facts.

But the facts means nothing to you for some reason. You have been told the election was stolen because your Dear Leader says so and then of course FOX News reinforced this narrative to boost ratings. It does not even matter to you that they have admtting to lying about the 2020 election. HOW CAN THAT NOT MATTER TO YOU?

He has constantly praised the thugs that rioted on our Capitol. Now he is doing a fund raiser for these creatures. This would bury any other politician but with Trump you just don't care that he supports rioters and law breakers.

None of the Trump Cult's behavior is normal. None of it. It's very very dangerous.[/quote]

You're new to the political threads. I have never once said the 2020 election was stolen. I think everyone here can confirm that. And I didn't vote for him in 2020 and am* writing someone in again in 2024.

I always hear I'll be critical of the democrats when warranted, but somehow it's never actually warranted. Besides saying things like oh well Biden wasn't my favorite president, there is very very rarely any criticism here of democrats here. And again you're new to these threads, I haven't seen any criticism from you, but you haven't posted here that long yet so maybe you will.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363984]I am glad to see the other side represented in this thread. What fun is a message board if everyone agrees?

I look forward to their response to the most recent post I have made, this should be good.[/quote]

True one can always go to Extremeskins if one only wants to hear one side.

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[quote=nonniey;1364022]True one can always go to Extremeskins if one only wants to hear one side.[/quote]

You should have seen their reaction when I was very critical of Biden and the DNC for allowing that debate performance to occur. I was called a Trump supporter, they claimed if Trump is elected we will have no more free elections, we will turn into Nazi Germany. I tied to explain that this won't happen but they weren't hearing it.

Unhinged is from both sides but far more represented by the MAGA crowd. Facts and the truth simply do not matter to them. They still believe the election was stolen despite every single challenge faiiing because people tell them this for ratings. So many formed this opinion by watching FOX News, who admitted they were lying but they just don't care for some unexplicable reason.

They somehow see it as perfectly fine that a candidate for President is heaping constant praise and doing a fund raiser for the thugs who rioted on our Capitol. Well that's not fine and should never be tolerated.

There is a TON of evidence that Donald Trump has committed very serious crimes. They just don't care. I despise these people for enabling this maniac and making us so divided as a nation.

To respond to SD I have been critical of Biden and the Dems. I have yet to see a Trump supporter be critical of anything that man does or says and that remains my point. They are nothing but a bunch of crying little bitches.

The Dems were weak on the border, they waited too long to raise interest rates and curb inflation. But I do believe overall the country is doing very well. Inflation is under control, the much anticipated recession never happened and overall they've done a good job IMO. While the GOP is basing their campaign on "America Sucks" I happen to believe we are lucky to be living in the best damn country in the world. While they cry that America sucks we are chanting "USA! USA!". I like how the Dems have taken Patriot from MAGA

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1363951]Nobody said Dems were never at fault. I certainly never did, I'm very critical of them when justified. But we are discussing Trump.

At no time in our nation's history have we had a leader whose followers believe he can do no wrong. There is literally no line he can cross to them and that is very very dangerous.

I am frankly stunned that you accuse the Dems of ignoring the facts. The facts are this was the most contested election in our nation's history and it held up to every single Republican challenge. Those are the facts.

But the facts means nothing to you for some reason. You have been told the election was stolen because your Dear Leader says so and then of course FOX News reinforced this narrative to boost ratings. It does not even matter to you that they have admtting to lying about the 2020 election. HOW CAN THAT NOT MATTER TO YOU?

He has constantly praised the thugs that rioted on our Capitol. Now he is doing a fund raiser for these creatures. This would bury any other politician but with Trump you just don't care that he supports rioters and law breakers.

None of the Trump Cult's behavior is normal. None of it. It's very very dangerous.[/quote]

So I guess your not voting for Harris as she raised bail money for people arrested in riots. Those rioters who also attacked cops and burned down people businesses.

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By the way I'm voting for my wallet not the person. I have a family to take care of and the people currently in office have made that a much harder task.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Fishingfool;1364077]By the way I'm voting for my wallet not the person. I have a family to take care of and the people currently in office have made that a much harder task.[/quote]

Do you honestly believe trump cares for your family and your wallet?

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364044]You should have seen their reaction when I was very critical of Biden and the DNC for allowing that debate performance to occur. I was called a Trump supporter, they claimed if Trump is elected we will have no more free elections, we will turn into Nazi Germany. I tied to explain that this won't happen but they weren't hearing it.

Unhinged is from both sides but far more represented by the MAGA crowd. Facts and the truth simply do not matter to them. They still believe the election was stolen despite every single challenge faiiing because people tell them this for ratings. So many formed this opinion by watching FOX News, who admitted they were lying but they just don't care for some unexplicable reason.

They somehow see it as perfectly fine that a candidate for President is heaping constant praise and doing a fund raiser for the thugs who rioted on our Capitol. Well that's not fine and should never be tolerated.

There is a TON of evidence that Donald Trump has committed very serious crimes. They just don't care. I despise these people for enabling this maniac and making us so divided as a nation.

To respond to SD I have been critical of Biden and the Dems. I have yet to see a Trump supporter be critical of anything that man does or says and that remains my point. They are nothing but a bunch of crying little bitches.

The Dems were weak on the border, they waited too long to raise interest rates and curb inflation. But I do believe overall the country is doing very well. Inflation is under control, the much anticipated recession never happened and overall they've done a good job IMO. While the GOP is basing their campaign on "America Sucks" [B]I happen to believe we are lucky to be living in the best damn country in the world.[/B] While they cry that America sucks we are chanting "USA! USA!". I like how the Dems have taken Patriot from MAGA[/quote]

On this we absolutely agree. I'd even say the best country in the history of the world. I found out during the Olympics, that no matter how much I disagree with the current state of affairs here, I still love this country the same as I ever have before. We're all absolutely blessed to live here.

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[quote=Fishingfool;1364077]By the way I'm voting for my wallet not the person. I have a family to take care of and the people currently in office have made that a much harder task.[/quote]


[B][B]Goldman Sachs sees biggest boost to US economy from Harris win
[/B][/B]

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/news/goldman-sachs-sees-biggest-boost-100032797.html[/url]

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[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party#:~:text=Since%20World%20War%20II%2C%20the,Democratic%20presidents%20than%20Republican%20presidents."]Historically the economy does significantly better under a Democrat as President
[/URL]

Nice self-own here:

During a March 2004 interview, Donald Trump stated: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans."

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[quote=Fishingfool;1364077]By the way I'm voting for my wallet not the person. I have a family to take care of and the people currently in office have made that a much harder task.[/quote]

We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

[url]https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate[/url]

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.

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Biden can be blamed for contributing to inflation as many of his policies did contribute to it and not even one policy designed to reduce it.

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[quote=nonniey;1364116]Biden can be blamed for contributing to inflation as many of his policies did contribute to it and not even one policy designed to reduce it.[/quote]
No, what you fail to mention was the price gauging from Companies and Big Business after the Country was coming out of the Pandemic.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364108]We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

[url]https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate[/url]

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

[B]Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers. [/B]

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.[/quote]

Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.

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[quote=Giantone;1364118]No, what you fail to mention was the price gauging from Companies and Big Business after the Country was coming out of the Pandemic.[/quote]

Please give examples. Years back you also said Obama care would fix health insurance and not drive up prices. how did that work out?

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364108]We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

[url]https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate[/url]

[B]So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? [/B] The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.[/quote]

So it was OK to blame Trump for all the covid deaths when it was a world problem. You can't play it both ways.

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[quote=Fishingfool;1364123]Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.[/quote]

20-30% m0ore , do you think that is Biden or the Grocery stores and their suppliers doing that? There is your example. . How many millions more have Heath care that didn't before, perfect no, better hell yes.

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[quote=Giantone;1364118]No, what you fail to mention was the price gauging from Companies and Big Business after the Country was coming out of the Pandemic.[/quote]

Self Deleted post (too Gianttonish).

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1364108]We all felt the inflation. But that has ended, the rate adjustments did exactly as intended. Are you even aware that post COVID every country in the world had big inflation? If you look at the rankings the US is far far down the list.

Are you even aware of this?

[url]https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate[/url]

So blaming the Biden Administration for our inflation when it was a global problem is unfair and off the mark. What else you got? The much anticipated recession never happened. While I do not believe the President has a lot to do with the stock market Trump's claim that our 401's will be cut in half under Biden simply did not happen. Have you checked your balance lately?

[B]Kamala's plan is to lower tax burdens on the middle class where Trump will try again to give tax breaks to the uber rich such as himself[/B]. Are you really OK that you pay more in taxes than Donald Trump does? Really? He agreed with Elon Musk about firing striking workers.

He will not help you and your family. That is a false narrative he has sold to you and others.[/quote]

How is she going to accomplish this plan? And I use the words "her plan" fast and loose.

80% of Americans got a tax cut with the Trump tax cuts. If you don't agree with tax cuts at all, fine, but don't keep pumping the lie that only the rich benefited. A majority of American's got to keep more of their own money with his tax cuts.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/01/bidens-false-claim-that-no-one-rich-got-trumps-tax-cuts/[/url]

[I]Because there are far more people in the middle class, there are fewer dollars to share per taxpayer when the savings from a tax cut are divvied up. The nonpartisan Joint Committee of Taxation estimates that 572,000 taxpayers will file returns with an income category of more than $1 million, compared with more than 27 million in the $50,000 to $75,000 category and almost 70 million in the under-$50,000 category.

If the wealthy end up with more money because they pay more in taxes, that’s not necessarily a fair way to look at tax legislation. The top 1 percent in 2014 earned 20 percent of adjusted gross income and paid nearly 40 percent of federal taxes, according to the Tax Foundation. The Tax Policy Center estimates that in 2018, the top 1 percent would get 20.5 percent of the tax cuts.

Moreover, when both the Joint Tax Committee and the Tax Policy Center looked at the impact of the tax bill, they concluded that in 2018, most people would see an overall reduction in taxes. The Tax Policy Center found that 80.4 percent of all taxpayers would have a tax cut, compared with about 5 percent experiencing a tax increase. In the middle quintile, 91 percent would get a tax cut, averaging about $1,090, with 7.3 percent facing a tax increase averaging about $910.[/I]

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[quote=nonniey;1364132]I stated that Biden's policies contributed to/accelerated inflation and none of them were designed to reduce inflation. So here is that old colloquialism again for how you responded - What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?[/quote]
The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this aspect as a root case of inflation and would rather blame it on Biden policies is revealing all in itself.

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[quote=Giantone;1364146]The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this aspect as a root case of inflation and would rather blame it on Biden policies is revealing all in itself.[/quote]

Yes, it is telling. It confirms what everyone on this board has known for years. That you have serious reading comprehension problems.

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[quote=Giantone;1364126]20-30% m0ore , do you think that is Biden or the Grocery stores and their suppliers doing that? There is your example. . How many millions more have Heath care that didn't before, perfect no, better hell yes.[/quote]

Biden. Sorry there are still more then 25 million people without health care about the same number before Obama care, Now people have a $10,000 deductible which makes the coverage useless unless you have something major. Better hell no where do you get your facts. You still stated rates would drop as did Obama and they doubled.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Fishingfool;1364153]Biden. Sorry there are still more then 25 million people without health care about the same number before Obama care, Now people have a $10,000 deductible which makes the coverage useless unless you have something major. Better hell no where do you get your facts. You still stated rates would drop as did Obama and they doubled.[/quote]


Seems you're the one with the wrong information............

[url]https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/03/18/fact-sheet-celebrating-affordable-care-act.html#:~:text=Since%20its%20enactment%20on%20March,LGBTQI%2B%20and%20communities%20of%20color[/url].

Since its enactment on March 23, 2010, the Affordable Care Act has led to an historic advancement of health equity in the United States. This landmark law improved the health of all Americans, including women and families, kids, older adults, people with disabilities, LGBTQI+ and communities of color. Thanks to the ACA, millions more Americans have gained health coverage without limits, and protections are in place for people with preexisting conditions. People have access to essential health benefits, including preventive and rehabilitative care, prescription drugs, wellness visits and contraceptives, mental health and substance use treatment, among many others. The Biden-Harris Administration is committed to building on the success of the ACA and making health care a right for all Americans................

Hit the link for more............

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=nonniey;1364148]Yes, it is telling. It confirms what everyone on this board has known for years. That you have serious reading comprehension problems.[/quote]

No , you just ignore facts to push your negative agenda.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Fishingfool;1364125]So it was OK to blame Trump for all the covid deaths when it was a world problem. You can't play it both ways.[/quote]

Who is blaming trump for those??? I hate him and even I never did that. it was a pandemic -World Wide.

trump can't handle his own money, he can't run the Country Finance's.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-takes-near-4-billion-111224080.html[/url]

Not to mention he has claim Bankruptcy 4 times.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1364139]How is she going to accomplish this plan? And I use the words "her plan" fast and loose.

80% of Americans got a tax cut with the Trump tax cuts. If you don't agree with tax cuts at all, fine, but don't keep pumping the lie that only the rich benefited. A majority of American's got to keep more of their own money with his tax cuts.

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/01/bidens-false-claim-that-no-one-rich-got-trumps-tax-cuts/[/url]

[I]Because there are far more people in the middle class, there are fewer dollars to share per taxpayer when the savings from a tax cut are divvied up. The nonpartisan Joint Committee of Taxation estimates that 572,000 taxpayers will file returns with an income category of more than $1 million, compared with more than 27 million in the $50,000 to $75,000 category and almost 70 million in the under-$50,000 category.

If the wealthy end up with more money because they pay more in taxes, that’s not necessarily a fair way to look at tax legislation. The top 1 percent in 2014 earned 20 percent of adjusted gross income and paid nearly 40 percent of federal taxes, according to the Tax Foundation. The Tax Policy Center estimates that in 2018, the top 1 percent would get 20.5 percent of the tax cuts.

Moreover, when both the Joint Tax Committee and the Tax Policy Center looked at the impact of the tax bill, they concluded that in 2018, most people would see an overall reduction in taxes. The Tax Policy Center found that 80.4 percent of all taxpayers would have a tax cut, compared with about 5 percent experiencing a tax increase. In the middle quintile, 91 percent would get a tax cut, averaging about $1,090, with 7.3 percent facing a tax increase averaging about $910.[/I][/quote]

As the top 1% clearly benefitted far more than a $1,000 tax cut I stand on the positon that the top 1% had a much bigger tax cut than the average worker. Kamala is looking to change that and have the top 1% pay more and the average American pay less.

Re: The Last 4 Years.
 

[quote=Fishingfool;1364123]Inflation in my eyes has not ended because everything at the grocery store is still 20 to 30% more. Kamala doesn't have a plan she doesn't even have a platform on her web page. She won't even speak in public. She just reads what people write for her. You have no clue what DT pays in taxes. We did see he paid 27 million one year. I don't thinkanyone here pays that amount.[/quote]

It was widely reported that Trump paid no taxes in 10 out of 15 years as he claimed losses. He paid $750 in the year he was elected and again $750 the first year in office. See the link below. Not only didn't Trump deny this he actually bragged about it by stating "that made me smart" as well as (paraphrasing) "if you have a problem with it get the laws changed", which I agree with by the way. He was simply playing by the rules. But he most definitely paid less in taxes than you did in so many years. Is it really news to you that the ultra wealthy have ways to get out of paying their fair share of taxes?

Well many of us will work to change the laws by casting our votes in November.

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur[/url]