Who will lead Washington in sacks this coming year?
 

Armstrong, Payne seem like the obvious answer but could Quinn and Whitt move Luvu or Davis to end in pass rushing situations?

Ferrell is known as a quality DE who can rush but plays the run really well…maybe he plays on first down and then is replaced to a pass rusher. Fowler is old and I could see being replaced in his a pass rushing role

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I can see Luvu being used in the Micah Parsons role here. He could be in for a big year sack wise.

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Allen, I imagine he is energized by the coaches change.

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Easy question it will be Daniels.

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[quote=nonniey;1362443]Easy question it will be Daniels.[/quote]

Phillip?

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I'd say Armstrong. Kid has put up good sack numbers recently. Have always liked his length and 1st step. Hopefully a bunch of Commanders will be getting tons of sacks.

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There is no obvious 10+ sack candidate on the roster. I can see Allen/Payne getting between 5-10 but the rest are unknowns. If Luvu can be Parsons-lite he could break 10+ this year. I'd say it's a good year for Armstrong/Fowler/etc if they get between 5-10.

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The style of play should lead to significantly more sacks, IMO. That combined with improved LB play and greater depth of competent Edge pass rushers. We may not have a player with 10 sacks but, if we do, I would guess that Armstrong would be that man.

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What's better, 1 guy with 10+ sacks and no more than 2-3 from anyone else, or 5-7 guys with 5-10 sacks? If we can get 40+ on the year, that's an improvement at least. I'll take a group effort over 1 guy being the focus. That's why we zeroed in on Young instead of going BPA.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1362461]What's better, 1 guy with 10+ sacks and no more than 2-3 from anyone else, or 5-7 guys with 5-10 sacks? If we can get 40+ on the year, that's an improvement at least. I'll take a group effort over 1 guy being the focus. That's why we zeroed in on Young instead of going BPA.[/quote]

I don't know that it necessarily matters team-wise how it's broken down, we just want as many sacks as possible. Gotta up our numbers from last year. Just gotta find a way to get to about 3.0 sacks per game.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1362461]What's better, 1 guy with 10+ sacks and no more than 2-3 from anyone else, or 5-7 guys with 5-10 sacks? If we can get 40+ on the year, that's an improvement at least. I'll take a group effort over 1 guy being the focus. That's why we zeroed in on Young instead of going BPA.[/quote]

I feel like I get what you're saying, but it reads like this:

"What's better, a team that gets more sacks or a team that gets less sacks?"

I used 10 sacks as an example because generally it's a pretty good year if a rusher gets 10+ sacks. Just because you have one guy that gets 10+ sacks doesn't mean everybody else has to suck lol.

I'll be happy if we have 5+ guys that all get between 5-10 sacks, because that means we are getting consistent pressure as a team which is the goal.

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Exactly, team effort.

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Jamin Davis!
I expect him to be used as a rusher similar to how Quinn used Parsons.
Also, Davis is trash in coverage so what else is he gonna do?

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It could be anybody. As really Davis could lead the pact. But not by much. Armstrong could give Davis a run for his money due to his youth. Dan Quinn is a defensive guru and could help the defense out so much.

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[quote=jamf;1362465]Jamin Davis!
I expect him to be used as a rusher similar to how Quinn used Parsons.
Also, Davis is trash in coverage so what else is he gonna do?[/quote]

My thoughts exactly! :thumbsup:

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[quote=nonniey;1362443]Easy question it will be Daniels.[/quote]

That's not nice. We're talking about [U]getting[/U] sacks, not [U]taking[/U] them. So far, we have "won" the off-season and we're still in the overly optimistic phase. Can we all just get high on the Kool Aid and be happy for a little while longer? Please be kind and humor those of us who chugging pitchers of it.

Who will lead Washington in sacks this coming year?
 

Bold prediction. Jayden Daniels will lead the league in Passing yards, running yards, and sacks(getting, not taking). You watch. Dude can do it all!

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[QUOTE=MTK;1362441]I can see Luvu being used in the Micah Parsons role here. He could be in for a big year sack wise.[/QUOTE]


Id go with Luvu also. He is going to be an absolute stud.

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Dominique Hampton has been getting reps with the first team defense at Safety [U]and[/U] OLB. He may get some sacks, as well.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1362491]Dominique Hampton has been getting reps with the first team defense at Safety [U]and[/U] OLB. He may get some sacks, as well.[/quote]Wow this is great to hear. May have found a gem in the 5th round! Kid has super athleticism.

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I just don't know cause the entire front 7 is just so so. Just how I see it. There really isn't anyone that you can say that an offense has to worry about. And please don't tell me Payne and Allen. After Payne got paid we haven't seen that much. I'd probably give it to Luvu by default.

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[quote=punch it in;1362486]Id go with Luvu also. He is going to be an absolute stud.[/quote]

20 sacks in 6 years? How do you figure? I'm guessing Luvu is a nice player but one that is replaceable. I'm always skeptical if the absolute worst team in the league that isn't paying a Qb didn't want to pay him.

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Given the Panthers owner, I'd say the odds of them making an actual smart decision is slim to none.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1362530]20 sacks in 6 years? How do you figure? I'm guessing Luvu is a nice player but one that is replaceable. I'm always skeptical if the absolute worst team in the league that isn't paying a Qb didn't want to pay him.[/quote]

Apparently they did, but he wanted to come and play for Quinn.

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I'm not knocking Luvu, like I said I'm sure he's a pretty good player. But is he a Parsons type of guy? No. If we want that type of player we're most likely going to have to draft him.

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Dorance Armstrong. Sneaky good get by DQ & Co. He will benefit from the rotation of Payne/Allen/Mathis/Newton.

Honestly, I understand some think the front 7 is just "so so", but call me crazy - we actually have LBs now and with the non-production we got from CY, I feel like the front 7 is better - on paper.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1362547]Dorance Armstrong. Sneaky good get by DQ & Co. He will benefit from the rotation of Payne/Allen/[B]Mathis[/B]/Newton.

Honestly, I understand some think the front 7 is just "so so", but call me crazy - we actually have LBs now and with the non-production we got from CY, I feel like the front 7 is better - on paper.[/quote]

Mathis? [B]Mathis?![/B] Let's see if he makes the final 53 before we put him in the rotation.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1362554]Mathis? [B]Mathis?![/B] Let's see if he makes the final 53 before we put him in the rotation.[/quote]

It was my understanding that Newton won't be available to begin the season, so Mathis may have gotten a break, until he gets hurt again, or whatever. I guess that we have the Vanilla Gorilla waiting in the wings ...

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1362554]Mathis? [B]Mathis?![/B] Let's see if he makes the final 53 before we put him in the rotation.[/quote]

Yes, Mathis.

Injuries are part of the game. He's had a couple unfortunate ones that have derailed his young NFL career, but he should be back healthy this year. No reason he wouldn't make the final 53 unless he turns out to be the unluckiest m'fer and gets injured again.

I like the idea of Payne/Allen/Mathis/Newton/and Ridgeway in the middle providing they are all healthy, especially with the new LB corps.

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No such thing as too nasty up front. But Mathis was just a horrendous Rivera pick. Mathis was even confused by being picked in the 2nd round. Rivera was incompetent. Terrible HC, worse GM.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1362538]I'm not knocking Luvu, like I said I'm sure he's a pretty good player. But is he a Parsons type of guy? No. If we want that type of player we're most likely going to have to draft him.[/QUOTE]


Leading our team in sacks and being the best defensive player in the league are two different discussions.
Luvu is coming into his own. it took him some time, but if the last two years are any indication he is getting ready for take off.

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And I love the fact that Luvu wants to absorb everything he can from Wagner. We need guys like that who guy who are very good and eager to learn and get better. That’s what the very best do. Very excited to see what this guy brings us this year. Biggest transformation of f a position group imaginable.


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[quote=calia;1362572]And I love the fact that Luvu wants to absorb everything he can from Wagner. We need guys like that who guy who are very good and eager to learn and get better. That’s what the very best do. Very excited to see what this guy brings us this year. Biggest transformation of f a position group imaginable.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]Luvu and Wagner are dramatic upgrades for a unit highly neglected by Rivera of all people. Excited to see what these 2 can bring to the unit. Wagner, in particular, was one of the more surprising signings this offseason- a good surprise.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1362567]No such thing as too nasty up front. But Mathis was just a horrendous Rivera pick. Mathis was even confused by being picked in the 2nd round. Rivera was incompetent. Terrible HC, worse GM.[/quote]

Horrendous might be a stretch, unless we are grading selections on their lack of contribution to their teams due to the injuries they suffer after being selected.

Everything I have seen indicates Phil was a day 2 pick, late 2nd / early 3rd rounder. He was taken in the middle of the 2nd. Not egregious by any means - if you listen to the experts.

Hopefully, this offseason getting healthy will propel him to a productive season in what could be a pretty nice rotation.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1362579]Horrendous might be a stretch, unless we are grading selections on their lack of contribution to their teams due to the injuries they suffer after being selected.

Everything I have seen indicates Phil was a day 2 pick, late 2nd / early 3rd rounder. He was taken in the middle of the 2nd. Not egregious by any means - if you listen to the experts.

Hopefully, this offseason getting healthy will propel him to a productive season in what could be a pretty nice rotation.[/quote]This is a huge year for Mathis. I gotta feeling Newton is going to be a stud. I also have expected more for Mathis at this point but still in a wait and see mode with him. He needs a strong year in 2024.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1362579]
Hopefully, this offseason getting healthy will propel him to a productive season in what could be a pretty nice rotation.[/quote]

Difficult to see him getting enough snaps to do that, outside of a major injury crisis or trade. I think he needs to impress greatly in camp and make the most of every single snap. Generally players and their agents have a higher idea of where they will be drafted, so if he was surprised at being picked in the 2nd round then he likely expected to or had been told that he would go at the back end of the 3rd at best.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1362566]Yes, Mathis.

Injuries are part of the game. He's had a couple unfortunate ones that have derailed his young NFL career, but he should be back healthy this year. No reason he wouldn't make the final 53 unless he turns out to be the unluckiest m'fer and gets injured again.

I like the idea of Payne/Allen/Mathis/Newton/and Ridgeway in the middle providing they are all healthy, especially with the new LB corps.[/quote]

He won't make the 53 if his work ethic is lacking or if he's just simply not that good.

The only time I saw him show up on film last year was in highlights for the opposing team's offensive line.

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[quote=mooby;1362586]He won't make the 53 if his work ethic is lacking or if he's just simply not that good.

The only time I saw him show up on film last year was in highlights for the opposing team's offensive line.[/quote]

Maybe Mathis can return kicks?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1362583]Difficult to see him getting enough snaps to do that, outside of a major injury crisis or trade. I think he needs to impress greatly in camp and make the most of every single snap. [B]Generally[/B] players and their agents have a higher idea of where they will be drafted, so [B]if[/B] he was surprised at being picked in the 2nd round then he [B]likely[/B] expected to or had been told that he would go at the back end of the 3rd at best.[/quote]

Difficult to see him getting enough snaps to contribute to a rotation?

Generally...if...likely... Yes, and all that is really just speculation. I don't think all prospects know when they are getting drafted. They may have some idea, but you see players show up in person and never get called. You see players surprised by their selection all the time. He appears to have been a consensus day two pick, and that's where he was selected.

Y'all act like I am saying Mathis is set to take J Allen's job or something. I'm just saying he was a projected day two pick (2nd/3rd round); he was picked in the 2nd round (day 2) and has had injuries to start both seasons so far that put him on the IR. [I]Maybe[/I] he will have a healthy offseason and contribute to a rotation. That is all.. Not too far-fetched a scenario my guys.

I agree he would be on the outside looking in on the 53-man roster if his work ethic sucks or he isn't that good. But do we know that at this point?