Jayden Daniels - Commanders QB Thread
 

Kind of just sinking in, we have legitimate chance of having a franchise QB. That's awesome.

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I know a lot of people were saying Lamar Jackson 2.0, I don't see that but what I do see if a faster version of Texans Deshaun Watson or Randall Cunningham

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1361843]I know a lot of people were saying Lamar Jackson 2.0, I don't see that but what I do see if a faster version of Texans Deshaun Watson or Randall Cunningham[/quote]

I like the Deshaun Watson comparison. That's a good one, especially coming out of college. It will be very fun to see what his comparisons look like after a couple seasons in the NFL.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361848]I like the Deshaun Watson comparison. That's a good one, especially coming out of college. It will be very fun to see what his comparisons look like after a couple seasons in the NFL.[/quote]I think he's going to be way better than Watson without all the off the field bs. His ability to read defenses is bigtime along with his accuracy and deep ball. He is lethally fast also, even moreso than Watson. Daniels literally is instant offense.

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My only concern is he needs to learn how to slide. We know he's gonna run but the best ability is availability.

One RG3 style ACL tear and all that hype will evaporate in about 10 seconds.

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The Lamar comp is kind of just lazy.. He's fast and can score from anywhere but hes also a better passer than Lamar. I like the Watson and RC Comps better

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I think I like the Randall Cunningham comp the best.

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[quote=mooby;1361855]My only concern is he needs to learn how to slide. We know he's gonna run but the best ability is availability.

One RG3 style ACL tear and all that hype will evaporate in about 10 seconds.[/quote]Yes he does need to learn how to slide. He runs like a fast wr in the open field. Elusive, shifty, fast, and with super vision. He just needs to be smart and protect himself. Very interested to see what type of offense KK unleashes for him overall.

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[quote=mooby;1361855]My only concern is he needs to learn how to slide. We know he's gonna run but the best ability is availability.

One RG3 style ACL tear and all that hype will evaporate in about 10 seconds.[/quote]

True, he is a better slider than RG3 already, and Daniels is a much better open field runner than RG3 was with ability to be elusive

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He knows how to slide, he just needs to tone down the hero ball he played in college, which a lot of guys do

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1361871]True, he is a better slider than RG3 already, and Daniels is a much better open field runner than RG3 was with ability to[B] be elusive[/B][/quote]

RG3 was a track star at heart he was condition to to run as fast as possible following a pre determine path ( track)

his mind always went i will beat you with speed first not maybe i can be elusive in this situation

imho, after his injury in the Bmore game they should have shelved him for the season and if DS had stayed out of it and Mike S and Kyle S were able to have full control over his development I think RG3 would have been Lamar good

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1361856]The Lamar comp is kind of just lazy.. He's fast and can score from anywhere but hes also a better passer than Lamar. I like the Watson and RC Comps better[/quote]

It’s not the best comp since JD is far more developed as a passer than LJ was coming out, but in terms of explosive playmaking ability as a runner I think it fits.

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[quote=MTK;1361876]It’s not the best comp since JD is far more developed as a passer than LJ was coming out, but in terms of explosive playmaking ability as a runner I think it fits.[/quote]Jackson ran a confirmed 4.34 at his pro day. Daniels is more 4.5 range although very fast. His vision, shiftiness, and cuts are elite. Think this will help protect himself. Imagine he gets a few rushing tds minimum this year.

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Daniels is a better passing coming out then Lamar was. Randall? Idk, tough to compare cause the game is totally different now. Imo Randall played in the wrong era. He'd be a dominant player if he was playing now w/ the way offenses are. They're totally suited for him today vs when he was playing.

I just think we have a blue chip prospect that has only scratched the surface on how good he can be. He's a rookie so rough patches are ahead. But start him day one and don't mess around w/ MM. You learn best by playing.

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[quote=MTK;1361876]It’s not the best comp since JD is far more developed as a passer than LJ was coming out, but in terms of explosive playmaking ability as a runner I think it fits.[/quote]

tisk tisk ; don't you know

the qb can only be like colored skin as the nfl doppelgänger you projected him to be

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1361877]Jackson ran a confirmed 4.34 at his pro day. Daniels is more 4.5 range although very fast. His vision, shiftiness, and cuts are elite. Think this will help protect himself. Imagine he gets a few rushing tds minimum this year.[/quote]

I think hes definitely faster than 4.5 guy. he himself said he would have beat or has beat both Brian Thomas and Malik Nabers in a race and they both ran 4.3 range, do i think hes that fast? No idea but I never saw him get chased down and that 85 yard run vs Florida was pretty fast

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1361895]I think hes definitely faster than 4.5 guy. he himself said he would have beat or has beat both Brian Thomas and Malik Nabers in a race and they both ran 4.3 range, do i think hes that fast? No idea but I never saw him get chased down and that 85 yard run vs Florida was pretty fast[/quote]

I agree with this. On several of his highlights he ran away from a lot of guys.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1361895]I think hes definitely faster than 4.5 guy. he himself said he would have beat or has beat both Brian Thomas and Malik Nabers in a race and they both ran 4.3 range, do i think hes that fast? No idea but I never saw him get chased down and that 85 yard run vs Florida was pretty fast[/quote]Hope so. Difference between 4.3 and 4.5 is huge. His speed and running prowess is amazing. Agree with the notion RG3 was more of a straight line runner, whereas Daniels is more shifty and elusive. Kid really is the complete package. FedEx is going to go nuts first time he runs for a long td.

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[url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/30/mike-lombardi-says-hed-rather-have-sam-howell-than-jayden-daniels-commanders/[/url]

Interesting

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[quote=mredskins;1361909][url]https://commanderswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/30/mike-lombardi-says-hed-rather-have-sam-howell-than-jayden-daniels-commanders/[/url]

Interesting[/quote]

He is a shock jock who's schtick is to post outlandish things for attention. Don't give it to him.

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[quote=Darrell Green Fan;1361910]He is a shock jock who's schtick is to post outlandish things for attention. Don't give it to him.[/quote]

agree

there is a small part of me that wonders how much of the blame of sh under development is on EB's shoulders

EB was the worst part of the offense last year

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Anyone that says they'd rather have SH over JD Is High as hell.. The ceilings on both aren't even close

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[quote=mredskins;1361912]agree

there is a small part of me that wonders how much of the blame of sh under development is on EB's shoulders

EB was the worst part of the offense last year[/quote]

Sam needed a strong running game to lean on, he should have been throwing the ball no more than 20-25 times a game. Instead EB had him dropping back like Peyton Manning in his prime. Just idiotic.

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Why Commanders believe Jayden Daniels is the QB the team has been waiting for

[url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/why-commanders-believe-jayden-daniels-is-the-qb-the-team-has-been-waiting-for[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1361913]Anyone that says they'd rather have SH over JD Is High as hell.. The ceilings on both aren't even close[/quote]Exactly. Daniels is taller, faster release, better deep ball, overall accuracy, ability to read defenses quickly, and faster runner. Not saying Howell sucks just think Jayden has superstar NFL potential.

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i wonder if jayden has asked heath if he can wear his number

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[quote=mredskins;1361917]i wonder if jayden has asked heath if he can wear his number[/quote]

That was my first ever redskins jersey lol I was like 8 years old

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[quote=mredskins;1361917]i wonder if jayden has asked heath if he can wear his number[/quote]Tend to doubt it lol. Kind of wonder what his response would be.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1361919]Tend to doubt it lol. Kind of wonder what his response would be.[/quote]

it was a joke

and tress has much more of a say

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[quote=mredskins;1361921]it was a joke

and tress has much more of a say[/quote]

Noticed that they put Tress Way jerseys on sale at a significant discount, prior to draft and some wondered whether he was being replaced, number change was in the works even then it seems

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I'm sure Tress will be well compensated for #5.

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FYI folks, Daniels has not played one single game in the NFL. I know we are all drinking the Kool Aid but what he did in college, actually what he did last year mostly got him drafted #2 overall. None of that matters now. It's what he does in Sept and then on is all that matters.

I'll wait until he plays several games before we say if he is better or worse than Sam. Remember, Sam did have some huge games, despite not getting much from his coaches. Just don't want to crown this kid when he hasn't even taken a snap or played a game.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1361913]Anyone that says they'd rather have SH over JD Is High as hell.. The ceilings on both aren't even close[/quote]

Again, Sam has played one full season and Daniels hasn't played a game. We will just have to see how it plays out. Remember the % of 1st round busts at QB is probably over 50%.

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For him to be successful, we need a good running game and a better defense. I think we'll have both, resulting from major upgrades to the Coaching staff and better players.

Are there still holes? Sure, but I don't think we have gaping holes that will prevent the kid from developing at a normal, if not rapid, pace.

As always, time will tell, but my $$ is on JD being much better than SH when it's all said and done.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1361928]Again, Sam has played one full season and Daniels hasn't played a game. We will just have to see how it plays out. Remember the % of 1st round busts at QB is probably over 50%.[/quote]

some of that is going to bad teams that can't coach QBs though. For example, JJ, while he's probably never going to be manning or brady, is very likely to succeed with the coaches (kevin o'connell) etc that are in place on the vikings than if he went to a place like carolina.

It's hard to factor that in to a single "this % of qbs made it to a second contract" number, but it's pretty important context. SH would have done much better being somewhere else last year (that was LESS dysfunctional than us, i.e. not carolina).

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1361929]For him to be successful, we need a good running game and a better defense. I think we'll have both, resulting from major upgrades to the Coaching staff and better players.

Are there still holes? Sure, but I don't think we have gaping holes that will prevent the kid from developing at a normal, if not rapid, pace.

As always, time will tell, but my $$ is on JD being much better than SH when it's all said and done.[/quote]

It's easy to get more and more excited about JD, well, at least in my head.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1361927]FYI folks, Daniels has not played one single game in the NFL. I know we are all drinking the Kool Aid but what he did in college, actually what he did last year mostly got him drafted #2 overall. None of that matters now. It's what he does in Sept and then on is all that matters.

I'll wait until he plays several games before we say if he is better or worse than Sam. Remember, Sam did have some huge games, despite not getting much from his coaches. Just don't want to crown this kid when he hasn't even taken a snap or played a game.[/quote]

I've gone from drinking the Kool Aid to snorting it out of the little packets. JD is going to own the league from Day 1 (I hope).

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[quote=mredskins;1361921]it was a joke
[/quote]Yeah I know. That's why I inserted the lol. Actually thought it was funny. Thanks for the laugh.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1361915]Why Commanders believe Jayden Daniels is the QB the team has been waiting for

[url]https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/why-commanders-believe-jayden-daniels-is-the-qb-the-team-has-been-waiting-for[/url][/quote]This is a great read. As impressive as his physical attributes are, I'm starting to think his mental attributes and work ethic are just as stellar. Kid is so committed and has great character. People keep worrying about him getting hurt, but he's tough as nails and has been durable. Just have a qb this committed is going to do wonders for this franchise, yet alone one with elite skills. Know he hasn't taken a pro snap yet, but Peters and JD have mixed up the most delicious Kool-Aid I've had since Gibbs II.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1361938]I've gone from drinking the Kool Aid to snorting it out of the little packets. JD is going to own the league from Day 1 (I hope).[/quote]

I certainly hope you are right. After everything this fanbase has been through over the years, we deserve to have a true franchise QB.