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mooby 07-29-2023 11:21 AM

2023 Commies training camp thread
 
You guys are still talking about the name change, really? Put that shit on pause until next year minimum.

[url]https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1685280200399978497[/url]

There's so many fresh and relevant subjects we could be discussing instead, like the amazing fan attendance at training camp right now (seriously we haven't seen that many fans attend training camp in 10+ years). Or how B-Rob finally feels normal again after getting shot in DC last year. Or how Forbes is making plays at training camp. Or how Sam Howell looks (seems like he has his highs and his lows which are to be expected at this stage).

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38088811/commanders-rb-brian-robinson-building-trying-rookie-year[/url] - Good read, B-Rob ran for 800 yards last year and he still wasn't 100%.

2nd edit: [URL="https://twitter.com/HogfarmerChris/status/1685262303418007552"]Look at this line of fans[/URL] waiting to get into camp! You love to see it.

Chico23231 07-30-2023 08:29 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
It’s early and not in pads yet, but Ben Standig watched our new Right Tackle get beat pretty bad inside and outside.

WCommandersfan99 07-30-2023 10:35 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1343317]It’s early and not in pads yet, but Ben Standig watched our new Right Tackle get beat pretty bad inside and outside.[/quote]Oline may be concerning from reports I've gathered. Really need to look to bring other guys in asap. Just sucks if Howell isn't going to have a lot of time to throw.

Meks 07-30-2023 12:08 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
I'm very concerned about the o line.

All the weapons in the world don't mean anything when the opposing D is in your backfield in 2-3 seconds.

Chief X_Phackter 07-30-2023 12:46 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
It's comical to try to evaluate the O-line before they even put on a pad. Anyway, hopefully a lot of O-lines struggle against this defensive front. Going against our D-line in practice will only better prepare them for the season and some of the really good D-lines they will face this year.

Injuries will play a big part, but I think we're better off than last year. I wouldn't mind upgrading the L Guard position, but maybe they like what they see so far.


C Leno Jr
C Paul/S Charles
N Gates/T Larsen/R Stromberg
S Cosmi
A Wylie

C Lucas = Swing Tackle

nonniey 07-30-2023 01:04 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1343323]It's comical to try to evaluate the O-line before they even put on a pad. Anyway, hopefully a lot of O-lines struggle against this defensive front. Going against our D-line in practice will only better prepare them for the season and some of the really good D-lines they will face this year.

Injuries will play a big part, but I think we're better off than last year. I wouldn't mind upgrading the L Guard position, but maybe they like what they see so far.


C Leno Jr
C Paul/S Charles
N Gates/T Larsen/R Stromberg
S Cosmi
A Wylie

C Lucas = Swing Tackle[/quote]

Well from a starting point most would have said going into last season we had a better line than this years group. Of course then we lost Roullier, while Cosmi, Leno and Norwell underperformed (Leno and Norwell especially).

That Guy 07-30-2023 08:46 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
I would love for the OL to go prove me wrong, but last year it was a problem that just did not go away, there's no quick fix for that. We brought in some guys, but not enough talent-level to just assume we're good now. Maybe it was just a bad year and we had the wrong guys in etc, but we'll know soon enough either way.

Chico23231 07-30-2023 09:06 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=That Guy;1343327]I would love for the OL to go prove me wrong, but last year it was a problem that just did not go away, there's no quick fix for that. We brought in some guys, but not enough talent-level to just assume we're good now. Maybe it was just a bad year and we had the wrong guys in etc, but we'll know soon enough either way.[/quote]

it will be better. Last year both guard positions were bottom of the league, and we were on our 4 th Center at times due to injuries. EB will help too

skinsfaninok 07-30-2023 09:54 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
The line is an issue but the offense will go as far as SH can take them. At the end of the day you have To have a QB. Hopefully he is that guy


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FrenchSkin 07-30-2023 11:12 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1343323]It's comical to try to evaluate the O-line before they even put on a pad. Anyway, hopefully a lot of O-lines struggle against this defensive front. Going against our D-line in practice will only better prepare them for the season and some of the really good D-lines they will face this year.



Injuries will play a big part, but I think we're better off than last year. I wouldn't mind upgrading the L Guard position, but maybe they like what they see so far.





C Leno Jr

C Paul/S Charles

N Gates/T Larsen/R Stromberg

S Cosmi

A Wylie



C Lucas = Swing Tackle[/QUOTE]

Gates and Wylie are upgrades over what he had last year. It's a functional unit.
I would have loved some strengthening of the left side too, especially because with that our roster would've been borderline hole-less. But as long as it's not injury crippled like it seems to have been every season for a few years, it's and okish+ Oline.

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FrenchSkin 07-30-2023 11:13 PM

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And I agree, let's put the name talk on pause until we have some legit news about it.

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mooby 07-31-2023 06:43 AM

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I still think it's a piecemeal o-line, we haven't adequately replaced Trent or Scherff since they both left.

After last year we should all be apprehensive about the state of the line. Taking a young qb making his 2nd career start and sticking him behind a shoddy o-line is a recipe for disaster. The first time he gets strip sacked we will all be on here bitching about the poor job they did getting help on the o-line in the offseason.

skinsfan69 07-31-2023 08:14 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=mooby;1343333]I still think it's a piecemeal o-line, we haven't adequately replaced Trent or Scherff since they both left.

After last year we should all be apprehensive about the state of the line. Taking a young qb making his 2nd career start and sticking him behind a shoddy o-line is a recipe for disaster. The first time he gets strip sacked we will all be on here bitching about the poor job they did getting help on the o-line in the offseason.[/quote]

This.. There are going to be some really rough Sunday's that are coming for the offense.

skinsfan69 07-31-2023 08:16 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
How many years has Charles been here? Is he going to just be a backup or is he going to become a legit NFL starter.

GridIron26 07-31-2023 08:38 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=mooby;1343333]I still think it's a piecemeal o-line, [B]we haven't adequately replaced Trent or Scherff since they both left[/B].

After last year we should all be apprehensive about the state of the line. Taking a young qb making his 2nd career start and sticking him behind a shoddy o-line is a recipe for disaster. The first time he gets strip sacked we will all be on here bitching about the poor job they did getting help on the o-line in the offseason.[/quote]


Both players are pretty good, especially Williams as he is legit #1 tackle in NFL. It's not easy to immediately replace top players. Also, we have been spoiled with LT in Samuels and Williams for years until Bruce Allen ruined it for us.

Redskins247 07-31-2023 09:20 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=mooby;1343333]I still think it's a piecemeal o-line, we haven't adequately replaced Trent or Scherff since they both left.

After last year we should all be apprehensive about the state of the line. Taking a young qb making his 2nd career start and sticking him behind a shoddy o-line is a recipe for disaster. The first time he gets strip sacked we will all be on here bitching about the poor job they did getting help on the o-line in the offseason.[/quote]

For what it's worth, watching all of UNC's games when Howell was there...they never had a good O line so Howell is used to that. His first few years they had a great running game, which they used to set up a lot of big plays down the field with his arm. His last season they did NOT have a good run game and that is why his stats dropped a lot because he was ALWAYS under pressure and had to run himself a lot more.

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 09:56 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

Commanders LB Jamin Davis will not be at practice today. He’s appealing a reckless driving conviction in Loudoun County.

Reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor in Virginia, punishable with up to 12 months and a $2,500 fine.

GridIron26 07-31-2023 10:42 AM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1343345]Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

Commanders LB Jamin Davis will not be at practice today. He’s appealing a reckless driving conviction in Loudoun County.

Reckless driving is a class 1 misdemeanor in Virginia, punishable with up to [B]12 months[/B] and a $2,500 fine.[/quote]

Probation or jail?

Ruhskins 07-31-2023 11:09 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1343346]Probation or jail?[/quote]

According to a Google search, 1 year jail.

GridIron26 07-31-2023 11:24 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1343347]According to a Google search, 1 year jail.[/quote]

Hopefully it's his first offense, they likely would give him a fine and/or probation if it's his first time.

Schneed10 07-31-2023 11:31 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
It's not a good line personnel wise. But the Bieniemey scheme calls for the ball to come out lots faster than Scott's did. I think the quick game is going to hide some of the flaws and we'll end up with a better functioning offense than we had last year.

But Rome wasn't built in a day, we will need to upgrade the OL personnel next offseason.

AnonEmouse 07-31-2023 11:44 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
Like was said recently, I'd like to know we've looked into Risner as a camp signing. He should be an upgrade over 1 if not both G's, providing he's healthy and interested.

On the basis his knee is healthy, I'd like to know if Lewan is actually retiring. Again, IF healthy he should be an upgrade over what we have and we could surely afford to offer him on a 1 yr contract.

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 12:27 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

Davis was cited going 114 mph in a 45 mph zone on Loudoun County Parkway at Evergreen Ridge Dr. on March 28, 2022 shortly after 1 p.m.

The Loudoun County District Court originally sentenced him to 30 days, plus a suspended license. He appealed.

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 12:28 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
After what happened to Deshazor Everett (sp?) You would have thought he got the message

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 12:30 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
NFL suspension to follow? Not sure if they get involved in traffic offences, though they seem to get involved when there is no offense committed so who knows

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 12:37 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
John Keim on Twitter

One note on Jamin Davis' situation: A little more than two months before this latest charge, he was charged with reckless driving (89 in a 65; later amended to 84 in a 65)

skinsfaninok 07-31-2023 01:33 PM

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Haven't been to camp, only reading same reports available to all. But the Howell vibe is a little odd. I guess he's been mixed. But it feels like reporters are trying not to tell us that he doesn't look great.

skinsfan69 07-31-2023 02:30 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
In Virginia they don't fuck around w/ driving reckless and DUI's. They put people in jail for that all the time. I would expect Davis to do some time. Not 30 days but maybe a week. Sounds like that's what he needs.

With all of the crazy drivers out there, and also what happened to Everett, why would these guys continue to put their lives and other drivers lives at risk? Just slow down out there. The consequences are just not worth it.

skinsfan69 07-31-2023 02:33 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1343356]Burgundy Blog
@BurgundyBlog
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3h
Haven't been to camp, only reading same reports available to all. But the Howell vibe is a little odd. I guess he's been mixed. But it feels like reporters are trying not to tell us that he doesn't look great.[/quote]

Is SM supposed to look great? It's a training camp practice, no Qb's right now are at their best. These reports that come out evaluating every throw is so stupid.

GridIron26 07-31-2023 02:57 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
Yeah I'm not going to be worried about QBs until we see them play in preseason games. If they look terrible in all games then I would be concerned.

Chico23231 07-31-2023 04:01 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1343355]John Keim on Twitter

One note on Jamin Davis' situation: A little more than two months before this latest charge, he was charged with reckless driving (89 in a 65; later amended to 84 in a 65)[/quote]

The definition of “fuckin idiot”

EdmundDorf 07-31-2023 04:04 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1343360]The definition of “fuckin idiot”[/quote]

Especially when you consider he was in the other car when Everett had his crash ( not sure if he was driving) with StJuste. Maybe too late now but Ron needed to get this guy in line, so much for drafting character

FrenchSkin 07-31-2023 07:57 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1343352]Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

Davis was cited going 114 mph in a 45 mph zone on Loudoun County Parkway at Evergreen Ridge Dr. on March 28, 2022 shortly after 1 p.m.

The Loudoun County District Court originally sentenced him to 30 days, plus a suspended license. He appealed.[/quote]

Pff... so much for the military family real serious guy... stupid AF. I don't know US's numbers but in France 3500 people die every year on the road, a third of whom because of overspeeding (wether they were the culprit or the victim). So no, it's not funny.

In other great news, if and when he gets suspended, our starting LG unit, even in Nickel personnel, consists in Cody Barton and... *thunder roll* David "Spicy Jalapeño BBQ Sauce" Mayooooo !

Yes. It's August 1st and I'm bitching about our LB corps already.

Meks 07-31-2023 09:43 PM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
Don't blame ya ^^^

EdmundDorf 08-01-2023 01:18 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1343362]Pff... so much for the military family real serious guy... stupid AF. I don't know US's numbers but in France 3500 people die every year on the road, a third of whom because of overspeeding (wether they were the culprit or the victim). So no, it's not funny.

In other great news, if and when he gets suspended, our starting LG unit, even in Nickel personnel, consists in Cody Barton and... *thunder roll* David "Spicy Jalapeño BBQ Sauce" Mayooooo !

Yes. It's August 1st and I'm bitching about our LB corps already.[/quote]

Don't worry, Bostic is still available......

FrenchSkin 08-01-2023 01:31 AM

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1343364]Don't worry, Bostic is still available......[/QUOTE]Oh you naughty boy you sure know how to push my button...

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EdmundDorf 08-01-2023 01:52 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1343365]Oh you naughty boy you sure know how to push my button...

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Sorry, couldn't resist, but there is still a dark corner of my mind that still doesn't quite trust that our front office wouldn't seriously consider resigning Bostic. Holding out hope for Hudson, never understood why he didn't get more playing time before the Dallas game last year.

davy 08-01-2023 07:57 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1343352]Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

Davis was cited going 114 mph in a 45 mph zone on Loudoun County Parkway at Evergreen Ridge Dr. on March 28, 2022 shortly after 1 p.m.

The Loudoun County District Court originally sentenced him to 30 days, plus a suspended license. He appealed.[/quote]

Personally I would class this as reckless endangerment and lock him up for 2 years, so for him to think 30 days is harsh blows my mind.

:banghead:

skinsfaninok 08-01-2023 09:36 AM

Re: 2023 Commies training camp thread
 
LB is a huge issue for this team and we still haven’t addressed it.

We better hope CY and Sweat dominate this season


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sdskinsfan2001 08-01-2023 09:46 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1343365]Oh you naughty boy...[/quote]

LOL, this is hilarious. Funny thing to wake up to.

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