Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread
 

If Dan Snyder sells the team this off-season, the 2022 season will go down as the 4th best season in franchise history.

We need a real GM too. Get Rivera's bum ass out of that spot. He can't even get the LB room right.

Sell the team and hire a GM (who could then fire Rivera if he chooses to do so).

That would be a great off-season.

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Has anybody heard anything about initial bids? I heard north of 7 billion but that is all.

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As long as the team sells, that is all that matters for the 2023 season. We can suffer through another season of Ron and his staff with Jimmy G at QB, and then Taylor again starting when Jimmy G gets hurt and it will be another rinse and repeat like the last 2 seasons...BUT after that, hopefully better days on the horizon. And personally, IF we're lucky enough to get a new owner, please rebrand this team and wash the stink off Snyder and his dumbass branding off of it PLEASE!!!!

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List of things that need to happen [emoji3596]

A. Fire the staff (won’t happen so we are doomed)
B. Find a QB if Howell isn’t the guy. DO NOT get Carr
C. Draft OL OL OL.
D. Find a way to pay Payne

These are the top 4 major issues that need to be addressed.

The roster isn’t bad , young playmakers on offense and a damn good D Line with some solid players in the secondary.

Jamin Davis has been better as well.

The issue is and has been we have no QB.


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1. Sell the team
2. Let the new owner bring in his people and let them make the decisions of who comes and goes. Have a feeling this might not happen soon enough and Ron becomes a lame duck
3. Draft a QB with one of the first two picks,make a back up offer to Henike, cut Wentz
4. Focus on an Oline rebuild. Turner, Charles and Schweitzer should be gone. Look to the draft for multi picks and free agency for investments.
5. Make offer to Payne and then franchise him. Call teams to see if interest.
6. Linebacker and Cornerback focus on defense. You need a starter at LB, get one in FA. Corner…bring back Danny Johnson and spend a pick in Draft.

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Who would buy this team for 7 billion? It's just not the franchise it once was. Just seems like a massive pile of stress w/ a pissed off miserable fan base.

If I had that kind of wealth I would not want to deal w/ it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1334756]Who would buy this team for 7 billion? It's just not the franchise it once was. Just seems like a massive pile of stress w/ a pissed off miserable fan base.

If I had that kind of wealth I would not want to deal w/ it.[/quote]

If you build it, they will come. I think you can wash the Snyder stench off pretty quickly if it's actually a good owner that takes over.

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I like the mascot myself. Well by mascot standards at least. I think if you're not using a live animal, all mascots are stupid in general. But if you're gonna have one, make it ridiculous.

If we're ever good, that's gonna be a great name.

Howell goes deep to McLaurin for a 75 yard TD: That play just gave me a Major Tuddy.

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Fire Rivera and staff
Re-hire Kyle Smith as GM, have him pick a coach
Cut Logan Thomas, Roullier, Bobby McCain, Trai Turner, restructured Fuller
Re-sign Payne, Curl
Trade Samuel and Gibson if you can get at least a 3rd for ea
Draft OL, LB and CB multiple picks each

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[quote=skinsfan69;1334756]Who would buy this team for 7 billion? It's just not the franchise it once was. Just seems like a massive pile of stress w/ a pissed off miserable fan base.

If I had that kind of wealth I would not want to deal w/ it.[/quote]

The Broncos went for 4.6 and that is not nearly as important as a market as DC. One of the largest markets in the US, tourist hub, a recession proof economy, access to politicians to grease the business interests that got you to afford the 7 billion anyways.

While I too probably wouldn't buy a team for 7 billion and if I did I would like to implement what the Bundesliga does in Germany which is ticket holders constitute a 51% share of business decisions regardless of who owns the team, similar to but not the same as Green Bay. Fans should always be first IMO.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334762][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fle75wEXgAEQHqM?format=jpg&name=900x900[/IMG][/quote]

Man the Eagles make me sick with envy right now

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Sad as hell showing yesterday - like B Mitch described it - trash. I feel sorry for the players that put the work in every day to try to get this team in the win column every week. They deserve better.

I guess I give up. I've been a Ron defender for the most part, but I can't do it anymore. DS is a jackass, but the state of this team right now is 50% on the HC, and 50% on the GM. Ron just happens to be both. Honestly I hope they are all gone by summer. I doubt that will happen with the alleged sale, but that is my hope - Snyders, Jason Wright, Marty and Martin, RR, ST, Del Rio, CW and TH, most of the O-line, majority of LBs... It's time to take out the trash.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1334772]Sad as hell showing yesterday - like B Mitch described it - trash. I feel sorry for the players that put the work in every day to try to get this team in the win column every week. They deserve better.

I guess I give up. I've been a Ron defender for the most part, but I can't do it anymore. DS is a jackass, but the state of this team right now is 50% on the HC, and 50% on the GM. Ron just happens to be both. Honestly I hope they are all gone by summer. I doubt that will happen with the alleged sale, but that is my hope - Snyders, Jason Wright, Marty and Martin, RR, ST, Del Rio, CW and TH, most of the O-line, majority of LBs... It's time to take out the trash.[/quote]

List of stupid things Rivera did:

Got rid of Kyle Smith and brought Hurney and Mayhew
Got rid of Kevin O' Connell and brought in Turner as OC
Let Scherff, Settle and Ioannidis walk
Gave up 2 3rd's for a washedup CW
Didn't address holes in the OL, LB and CB positions
Started CW instead of TH in a must have game thinking part 2 would be different

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The Giants changed an entire organization in one season.


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The biggest mistake was obviously the decision to trade for Wentz. It's hard to blame them for [I][B]trying[/B][/I] to fix the QB situation, but it didn't work, the evaluation of him and his fit for this team was flawed, and his cost had ripple effects on the rest of the roster. In hindsight it would have been better to go with Heinicke/Howell/Fromm, and use the resources spent on Wentz to upgrade the OL, LBs, and secondary. RR would have been roasted for not doing anything to upgrade the QB position, but it may have worked out better in the end.

I think Ron & Company do try hard, but the results are not there. We need a staff that tries hard [U]and[/U] produces.

Lord knows what this organization will look like in six months.

Here's to hope - again...

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1334759]I like the mascot myself. Well by mascot standards at least. I think if you're not using a live animal, all mascots are stupid in general. But if you're gonna have one, make it ridiculous.

If we're ever good, that's gonna be a great name.

Howell goes deep to McLaurin for a 75 yard TD: That play just gave me a Major Tuddy.[/quote]

The mascot, like the name, won't survive the sell of the team.

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[quote=nonniey;1334782]The mascot, like the name, won't survive the sell of the team.[/quote]

SOOOO hope you are right!!!

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The name isn’t changing again. Why would the NFL allow that after they already rebranded. You guys have to remember the league has some control of their Shield too. Also what fucking name does everyone else want?

Warriors is a no go because of Golden State

Redwolves was a no also

What else is there?


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Yea the name ain’t the issue … the mascot is a nuthin burger .. none of that matters .. WHAT does matter is the Sale and a house cleaning from top to bottom !

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[QUOTE=rocnrik;1334785]Yea the name ain’t the issue … the mascot is a nuthin burger .. none of that matters .. WHAT does matter is the Sale and a house cleaning from top to bottom ![/QUOTE]


Exactly.. and honestly commanders has grown on me . It’s not bad at all


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334786]Exactly.. and honestly commanders has grown on me . It’s not bad at all


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The reason the name is as good a dead is not because it is unpopular (it is), it is because it was picked by Snyder. No branding action taken by Snyder will survive the sell of the team. The owners (and the NFL) will want to cleanse as much of Snyder as it can from the franchise (and the NFL). The only way the name survives is if Snyder doesn't sell the team.

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I think if a new owner comes in and rebrands right away then we are back to having an egotistical, crappy owner. This team has so many problems on and off the field, congressional hearings, law suits, toxic work place stigma, NFL investigations, bad GM decisions, except for personal suits against Dan all that stuff will remain against the team and the new owner will have to deal with that, the name is the least of the problems.

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[quote=nonniey;1334789]The reason the name is as good a dead is not because it is unpopular (it is), it is because it was picked by Snyder. No branding action taken by Snyder will survive the sell of the team. The owners (and the NFL) will want to cleanse as much of Snyder as it can from the franchise (and the NFL). The only way the name survives is if Snyder doesn't sell the team.[/quote]

I get that but did the Panthers change their name after a racist owner? Clippers too...

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Rumor is Harbaugh wants back in to the NFL. I’d take him over Ron in a heartbeat


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Hire a coach under 45!!!!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334793]Rumor is Harbaugh wants back in to the NFL. I’d take him over Ron in a heartbeat


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If we could get a new owner in reasonable time, which I doubt.

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/report-jim-harbaugh-jump-nfl-192912826.html[/url]

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Is Harbaugh friends with any of the potential buyers? Must admit while I agree with sd, we should go with youth, Harbaugh is proven. Can't see him coming here under Snyder though.

Priority 1is a new owner. What they want is then priority 2, 3, 4 etc.We have no say. Ideally it happens soon enough for the best outcomes in FA and the draft, else as said, we'll likely roll into next season as is. Name change would certainly make no sense in year 1, and probably not year 2. Get the on field product improved first, the rest is window dressing.

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My guess is, if it happens, the sale is done by the draft, but not soon enough to hire a new staff before all the important off season decisions need to be made regarding free agency, draft picks, trades, extensions, etc. So the staff we have now will still be making all the decisions for next year's football team. Unfortunately, it's status quo for 2023.

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If the team is sold, anything else is gravy.

We can suck for 1 more year if there is light at the end of the tunnel.

We have lived in this for 30 years:

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I don’t have as much issue with Ron staying to help get it going .. however no to Scott turner and no to Wentz …

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334793]Rumor is Harbaugh wants back in to the NFL. I’d take him over Ron in a heartbeat


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I’d take Harbaugh and with his guy, D Cordinator Vic Fangio.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334791]I get that but did the Panthers change their name after a racist owner? Clippers too...[/quote] Those owners didn't pick the names.

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Well if left to the FANS the name would still be REDSKINS !!! .. if you take away the Warriors, Redwolves then the Commanders was as good as any of the other names I heard .. but truth is No NEW owner would keep the Redskin name so it was inevitable it was gonna be gone .. I’m good with the new direction but will not be satisfied till new owner is in place !

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[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/.amp/news/washington-commanders-quarterback-derek-carr-carson-wentz-target-las-vegas-raiders-jay-jon-gruden-sign-rumor[/url]

Please no more retreads

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[quote=mredskins;1334844][url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/.amp/news/washington-commanders-quarterback-derek-carr-carson-wentz-target-las-vegas-raiders-jay-jon-gruden-sign-rumor[/url]

Please no more retreads[/quote]

If we had Jay still as a coach that would be a great fit probably. I always thought Jay did an excellent job with the offense here given that Bruce was his GM and undermining him any chance he could. With RR there are no good fits and I don't want to spend that $.

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[quote=mredskins;1334844][url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/.amp/news/washington-commanders-quarterback-derek-carr-carson-wentz-target-las-vegas-raiders-jay-jon-gruden-sign-rumor[/url]

Please no more retreads[/quote]

This is a version of "I'll be your huckleberry".

Carr: "I'll be your Russell Wilson".

No thanks. Draft another rookie to compete with Howell. Sign a cheap vet for the 3rd spot.

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Better not trade for that dude

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i guess there goes my question for this morning what are we doing at QB next year because we are back to square one

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[quote=njant;1334852]i guess there goes my question for this morning what are we doing at QB next year because we are back to square one[/quote]

Same shit new year.. never changes in DC