trump the Criminal and the Idiot!
 

FBI raids trumps home.............Opinions?


Investigations in NY for trump and his Company for Fraud, 2 different ones Manhattan and Westchester

Investigations of trump for his part on Jan 6th

Investigations of trump for taking Government Documents

Investigations of election tampering

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"They" have been going after this man for various reasons since 2016 (back when a gallon of gas was about $2.20). My guess is if he's done something illegal, eventually it will be dug up and presented for all to see.

Is he a criminal? I don't know man. I'll reserve judgment for when there is some actual evidence to show that he either did, or did not, commit a crime.

For your sake though G1, I hope they find something.

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[url]https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1557116743142649857[/url]

I think this is a good summary for people like me who don't know anything about national security - short version is that this could be something criminal, or it could be a case where the feds just wanted the rest of their classified info back. Time will tell.

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He better be charged with a crime…if not this is absolute horseshit.

Whatever it takes to get DeSantis as the nominee, I’m for.

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Mike Pence
@Mike_Pence
· 16h
I share the deep concern of millions of Americans over the unprecedented search of the personal residence of President Trump. No former President of the United States has ever been subject to a raid of their personal residence in American history.

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National Archives started this becuase trump took things he was not supposed to. His Lawyers have been talking to the FBI for months to correct this. Finally they said enough is enough he is not above the Law.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319175]"They" have been going after this man for various reasons since 2016 (back when a gallon of gas was about $2.20). My guess is if he's done something illegal, eventually it will be dug up and presented for all to see.

Is he a criminal? I don't know man.[B][B] I'll reserve judgment for when there is some actual evidence to show that he either did, or did not, commit a crime.
[/B][/B]
For your sake though G1, I hope they find something.[/quote]

To get evidence you need a warrant to search for it or they aren't doing their job , correct? Are you saying ex presidents are above the Law?


[B]THIS WAS NO SURPRISE.[/B]

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-legal-team-was-talks-justice-department-spring-records-stored-m-rcna42319[/url]

Trump's legal team was in talks with DOJ this spring over records stored at Mar-a-Lago, attorney says
Trump attorney Christina Bobb said the FBI removed about a dozen boxes from the former president's Florida residence on Monday.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319181]He better be charged with a crime…[B]if not this is absolute horseshit. [/B]
[/quote]

Is an ex-President above the Law?

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It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such a perfect raid.

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[quote=Giantone;1319187]To get evidence you need a warrant to search for it or they aren't doing their job , correct? Are you saying ex presidents are above the Law?


[B]THIS WAS NO SURPRISE.[/B]

[url]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-legal-team-was-talks-justice-department-spring-records-stored-m-rcna42319[/url]

Trump's legal team was in talks with DOJ this spring over records stored at Mar-a-Lago, attorney says
Trump attorney Christina Bobb said the FBI removed about a dozen boxes from the former president's Florida residence on Monday.[/quote]

Ok Spin Master. Never did I say or even suggest that anyone was above the law. I said I'll reserve judgment for when there is some actual evidence to show whether or not he committed a crime.

Just because you are able to secure a warrant, doesn't always mean you are going to find evidence of a crime.

But I do think politicians sometimes believe they [I]are[/I] above the law - as do a lot of rich folk.

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[quote=MTK;1319191]It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such a perfect raid.[/quote]

LOL, ...where there is smoke there is fire!

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319192]Ok Spin Master. Never did I say or even suggest that anyone was above the law. I said I'll reserve judgment for when there is some actual evidence to show whether or not he committed a crime.

Just because you are able to secure a warrant, doesn't always mean you are going to find evidence of a crime.

But I do think politicians sometimes believe they [I]are[/I] above the law - as do a lot of rich folk.[/quote]

Not a spin master at all. just pointing out his team was in talks to get the items /papers back to the National Archives for months and he ignored them. This was not a surprise. Who were the NA to go to,...the local Police station? Again none of this is made up these are all facts. You get a warrant to find evidence and if there is none then that helps trump correct, so why the up roar about it?
The Man thinks he is above the law and for republican's to scream their phony outrage after demanding the FBI go after Hilary Clinton's emails is the key definition of hypocrisy.

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Interesting article here.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-first-president-run-220100799.html[/url]

Is Donald Trump the First President to Have a Run-In With the Law?


Answer , [B]NO![/B]

“I am very sorry, Mr. President,” officer William West allegedly said to Ulysses S. Grant in 1876, “...but duty is duty, sir, and I will have to place you under arrest.” It was the second time in two days that West, a veteran born into slavery, had stopped Grant, a sitting president who had led the Union Armies to victory during the Civil War"

But interesting enough this is at the end of the article..

In 2014, Congress prohibited the keeping of electronic records in non-official accounts. The Archivist of the United States assumes ownership of presidential records after one or two terms. And if the president wants certain documents withheld, a decision is made at the Archivist’s discretion.

For the first time in American history, a former President’s home was raided, and with great consequence.[B] If Trump “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys…any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk of officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States,” he will be disqualified from holding public office.[/B]

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Funny how the party of law and order is now saying defund the FBI. Fucking traitors and bootlickers.

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trumps kids are as dumb as he is!


[url]https://news.yahoo.com/eric-trumps-accidental-confession-father-085759577.html[/url]

Eric Trump's Accidental Confession About His Father Has Twitter Users Howling


Most modern presidents have taken pains to distance themselves from Justice Department operations with political implications. In this case, the White House said Biden found out about the search warrant the same way as everyone else: from the news.

But as Twitter users were quick to point out, Eric Trump’s comments appeared to admit that wasn’t the case in the Trump White House:

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[quote=MTK;1319200]Funny how the party of law and order is now saying defund the FBI. Fucking traitors and bootlickers.[/quote]

Lol…it’s interesting liberals defend the FBI. I guess when they are going after your political enemies, they are the good guys.

Here is the FBI fabricating evidence against the former administration and pleading guilty:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec[/url]

Here is an FBI agent being fired for threatening, political texts and statements, admitting to working against the oncoming administration:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-russia-ap-top-news-politics-53e7ad58a231407882a32258cccc0432[/url]

Here is director James Comey where he is caught leaking…which he admitted he did…which he was admonished by the IG, and validate his firing by Trump where Comey violated his oath to FBI

[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-fbi-director-comey-violated-policies-by-leaking-documents-watchdog-says-11567088418[/url]

[url]https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6359881-OIG-Report-Comey[/url]

The IG report…Comey directs his lawyer to share the substance of the Trump conversation to the NYT.

This help opened an investigation which a hoax…the FBI agents testified at the Sussman trial that the Clinton lawyers which brought fake evidence to them, when analyzed was a nothing burger. Which director claims he knew nothing about.

So replace these actions by FBI against the Obama instead of Trump…it’s likely you would change your tune about the FBI and their extreme partisan actions the last several years.

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Well well, Trump pleading the 5th today. From the same guy who said pleading the 5th was an admission of guilt.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZzYwAiXgAEqrHL?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

:D

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[quote=Chico23231;1319202]Lol…it’s interesting liberals defend the FBI. I guess when they are going after your political enemies, they are the good guys.

Here is the FBI fabricating evidence against the former administration and pleading guilty:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec[/url]

Here is an FBI agent being fired for threatening, political texts and statements, admitting to working against the oncoming administration:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-russia-ap-top-news-politics-53e7ad58a231407882a32258cccc0432[/url]

Here is director James Comey where he is caught leaking…which he admitted he did…which he was admonished by the IG, and validate his firing by Trump where Comey violated his oath to FBI

[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-fbi-director-comey-violated-policies-by-leaking-documents-watchdog-says-11567088418[/url]

[url]https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6359881-OIG-Report-Comey[/url]

The IG report…Comey directs his lawyer to share the substance of the Trump conversation to the NYT.

This help opened an investigation which a hoax…the FBI agents testified at the Sussman trial that the Clinton lawyers which brought fake evidence to them, when analyzed was a nothing burger. Which director claims he knew nothing about.

So replace these actions by FBI against the Obama instead of Trump…it’s likely you would change your tune about the FBI and their extreme partisan actions the last several years.[/quote]

chico , don't look now but you're defending trump.LOL

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319202]Lol…it’s interesting liberals defend the FBI. I guess when they are going after your political enemies, they are the good guys.

Here is the FBI fabricating evidence against the former administration and pleading guilty:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-b9b3c7ef398d00d5dfee9170d66cefec[/url]

Here is an FBI agent being fired for threatening, political texts and statements, admitting to working against the oncoming administration:

[url]https://apnews.com/article/north-america-donald-trump-russia-ap-top-news-politics-53e7ad58a231407882a32258cccc0432[/url]

Here is director James Comey where he is caught leaking…which he admitted he did…which he was admonished by the IG, and validate his firing by Trump where Comey violated his oath to FBI

[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-fbi-director-comey-violated-policies-by-leaking-documents-watchdog-says-11567088418[/url]

[url]https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6359881-OIG-Report-Comey[/url]

The IG report…Comey directs his lawyer to share the substance of the Trump conversation to the NYT.

This help opened an investigation which a hoax…the FBI agents testified at the Sussman trial that the Clinton lawyers which brought fake evidence to them, when analyzed was a nothing burger. Which director claims he knew nothing about.

So replace these actions by FBI against the Obama instead of Trump…it’s likely you would change your tune about the FBI and their extreme partisan actions the last several years.[/QUOTE]


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Trumpers are cult lifers. They are never ever going to admit that he is a crook, and a dumb one at that. He stands for everything they stand for.
Its so fun watching the party of “fuck your feelings” cry.
Dude is guilty of such a wide array of crimes. Hopefully when he gets locked up, his minions do go crazy so they can all get locked up. Knowing those sheep they would rather spend their lives in jail with him.

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Oh those pesky facts…always in the way of the feelings

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319211]Oh those pesky facts…always in the way of the feelings[/QUOTE]


For a second I thought you had actually realized what was going on inside your own head, but sadly you are still acting as if the facts are in your favor. Yeah BLM dude is the grift king not Trump, Hillary is the real criminal not Trump. The FBI and Capitol police aren’t real law enforcement because Trump. You and your little deflection stories you read on your white nationalist websites are, once again, doing a sack dance while your team is losing 72-0. 7 more years, and at this rate probably more. Just breathe man.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319192]Ok Spin Master. Never did I say or even suggest that anyone was above the law. I said I'll reserve judgment for when there is some actual evidence to show whether or not he committed a crime.

Just because you are able to secure a warrant, doesn't always mean you are going to find evidence of a crime.

But I do think politicians sometimes believe they [I]are[/I] above the law - as do a lot of rich folk.[/quote]

You do know that Trump could release the actual warrant they supplied to him as well as the inventory list of items they took.

Wonder why he doesn't do that?

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1319229]You do know that Trump could release the actual warrant they supplied to him as well as the inventory list of items they took.

Wonder why he doesn't do that?[/QUOTE]


Lol. Time for the Trumpers to move the goal posts….again. Ill start,…

Why doesn’t Hillary release hers?

Am I doing this right?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1319229]You do know that Trump could release the actual warrant they supplied to him as well as the inventory list of items they took.

Wonder why he doesn't do that?[/quote]

Man, I have no idea why he does or doesn't do "things", and I'm not going to speculate. I'll leave that to all the other posters on here.

Is that common - for someone to release the actual warrant along with an inventory list of items took in a raid of their property? I'm thinking no, but I really don't have a lot of experience with law enforcement raids.

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Everyone poppin' out of the woodworks today.

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[quote=Giantone;1319199]Interesting article here.

[url]https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-first-president-run-220100799.html[/url]

......
[B] If Trump “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys…any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk of officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States,” [B]he will be disqualified from holding public office[/B].[/B][/quote]

If convicted. And yes, I think he is guilty. The problem will be finding a jury. I seriously doubt they'd be able to find 12 impartial jurors and then it would only take one to prevent a conviction. He was right in saying he could murder someone in Times Square and get away with it.

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So you're saying all trumps trials have to be jury trials?

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[quote=Giantone;1319238]So you're saying all trumps trials have to be jury trials?[/quote]

It's his choice - so yeah they will be.

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[quote=nonniey;1319239]It's his choice - so yeah they will be.[/quote]

It could backfire on him.

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[url]https://www.businessinsider.com/even-before-fbi-raid-trump-was-paranoid-about-being-wiretapped-2022-8[/url]

LOL somebody betrayed the blood oath. "You never admit the existence of this thing of ours"

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[quote=mooby;1319273][url]https://www.businessinsider.com/even-before-fbi-raid-trump-was-paranoid-about-being-wiretapped-2022-8[/url]

LOL somebody betrayed the blood oath. "You never admit the existence of this thing of ours"[/quote]

LOL, just what you want running a Country!

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@FBICincinnati
At approximately 9 AM this morning an armed subject attempted to breach the Visitor Screening Facility at #FBI Cincinnati. After an alarm and a response by FBI special agents, the subject fled north onto Interstate 71.

trump the Criminal
 

[url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-says-armed-person-attempted-breach-its-cincinnati-building-2022-08-11/[/url]

Thanks to all the morons choosing crooks over law enforcement and spreading Trumps rhetoric about the FBI. Fuckin dumb ass sheep. Somewhere Trump is very proud of the deranged individual. Even though it was yet another failed revolution. Fuckin losers.

MTG and Chico blame Antifa in 3…2…

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GOP is choosing Trump over law and order. What an absolutely disgusting display.

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[quote=punch it in;1319346][url]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-says-armed-person-attempted-breach-its-cincinnati-building-2022-08-11/[/url]

Thanks to all the morons choosing crooks over law enforcement and spreading Trumps rhetoric about the FBI. Fuckin dumb ass sheep. Somewhere Trump is very proud of the deranged individual. Even though it was yet another failed revolution. Fuckin losers.

MTG and Chico blame Antifa in 3…2…[/quote]

I’ll refer you to post 16 which documents the FBI’s corruption with the previous administration

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1319351]I’ll refer you to post 16 which documents the FBI’s corruption with the previous administration[/QUOTE]


Ill refer to post 16 and every other post by you that is full of [emoji90] [emoji3577]

trump the Criminal
 

The FBI had every right to try and stop a mobster from entering the oval office. If you cant see that clearly by now well then there is no help for you. He is and was a threat to National security.

But please spin those goalposts until you feel justified.

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Fox news also has to share the blame for all their anti FBI rhetoric. They obviously learned nothing after Jan 6.