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mooby 01-10-2022 09:49 AM

Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Anybody but Joe Judge and I'll be happy.

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33034349/reports-minnesota-vikings-fire-head-coach-mike-zimmer-gm-rick-spielman"]Vikings fire Zimmer and Spielman[/URL]

[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33034402/source-chicago-bears-fire-matt-nagy-4-years-following-6-11-season"]Bears fire Nagy[/URL] [URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480547923649781769"]and Ryan Pace[/URL]

[URL="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1480547317967204365"]Dolphins fire Brian Flores[/URL]

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 09:51 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Thanks for getting this thread started. Brian Flores goes 10-6 and 9-8 and they fire him?

Not surprised about Vikes and Bears moves.

mooby 01-10-2022 09:54 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307611]Thanks for get that started. Brian Flores goes 10-6 and 9-8 and they fire him?

Not surprised about Vikes and Bears moves.[/quote]

I know you guys already started in the week 18 thread, but this deserves its' own thread imo.

I'm more surprised about Flores being canned than anything else, he did a good job with that team the last two years.

BaltimoreSkins 01-10-2022 09:56 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Flores surprises me in two years went 7-5 in division including 3-1 against the Pats. Really can't ask more than that considering they were bottom dwellers for so long. Someone will be getting a good coach.

mooby 01-10-2022 09:58 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Sounds like he a had a power struggle with the GM. That's Miami's loss.

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 09:59 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
I like Andrew Brandt a lot and agree with him on placing some blame on the organization about what's happening to the Dolphins. But did ANYONE think during the pre-draft process that Herbert was going to be this good?

@AndrewBrandt
Dolphins drafted Tua ahead of Herbert and traded the Eagles a first-round pick to move up 6 spots. But the head coach is fired.

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 10:04 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1307615]Really surprising about Flores. I feel there is something going on w/ the [B]assistant coaches that out of New England[/B]. Flores won 8 of of 9 games to finish 9-8 and he's gone? Has to be something going on where he must be rubbing people the wrong way.

Judge has to go after yesterday, running QB sneaks on 2nd and 3rd downs. That was a give up wave the white flag shit. No way can you bring that type of fuckery back to your team.

Staley should be gone as well. He cost his team two games that I know of by constantly going for it on 4th down. Chargers should be in the playoffs. They're home cause of him.[/QUOTE]

Until recently, Bill O'Brien was the only NE assistant that had any success as a head coach. That is until he ran the Texans into the ground. Most of them haven't been good and don't last long.

That being said, I think Flores did a good job in Miami. I'm sure he'll be candidate for another HC position.

Chico23231 01-10-2022 10:04 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307611]Thanks for getting this thread started. Brian Flores goes 10-6 and 9-8 and they fire him?

Not surprised about Vikes and Bears moves.[/quote]

Miami must have a commitment from someone…you don’t make that move unless you got a replacement

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 10:05 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Re-posting on this thread:

Oh man, are the Giants going to keep their clown coach? Please do. LOL.

@JayGlazer
I believe Giants brass is torn on what to do w Joe Judge bc of revolving door of coaches they’ve had in recent years. Have hesitation to move on bc they’d add to that revolving door. At same time I have heard a ton of frustration inside that locker room. Not a little, a lot

mooby 01-10-2022 10:10 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307617]I like Andrew Brandt a lot and agree with him on placing some blame on the organization about what's happening to the Dolphins. But did ANYONE think during the pre-draft process that Herbert was going to be this good?

@AndrewBrandt
Dolphins drafted Tua ahead of Herbert and traded the Eagles a first-round pick to move up 6 spots. But the head coach is fired.[/quote]

And they also won 8/9 to close the year and swept the Patriots too. But yes, Flores was the problem.

:rolleyes:

mooby 01-10-2022 10:11 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Current openings:

HC - Jacksonville, Denver, Minnesota, Chicago, Miami

GM - Minnesota, Chicago

Who goes where?

BaltimoreSkins 01-10-2022 10:19 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
There are some appealing openings with some young QBs to scaffold

AnonEmouse 01-10-2022 10:27 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
I can see Flores going to Chicago, though of course depends on the GM hire.

Minn is tough because they are not dire. But again, it depends on the GM.

I could see someone like Bienemy being good in Jax, but I think they'll go with an established HC after this years car crash.

Broncos ownership situation could preclude an immediate hire; they could be looking at a top down clear out, maybe including the locker room.

rocnrik 01-10-2022 10:30 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
If I’m Jacksonville I’ve allready hired Flores..

calia 01-10-2022 10:32 AM

Black Monday 2022 thread
 
I could see Jim Harbaugh in Chicago if he thinks Fields is the guy.

Dumb of Miami to fire Flores. They dropped a number of games when Tua was out and came to play every week. A friend who is a huge Phins fan said to me, “Why can’t we ever have nice things?”

I wonder if Jax gives Leftwich a shot. He’d be a sentimental favorite.

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Redskins247 01-10-2022 10:51 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1307619]Miami must have a commitment from someone…you don’t make that move unless you got a replacement[/quote]

Harbaugh to Miami? Maybe already had talks...Dolphins owner kind of crazy eccentric...crazy loves crazy.

BaltimoreSkins 01-10-2022 11:04 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Redskins247;1307632]Harbaugh to Miami? Maybe already had talks...Dolphins owner kind of crazy eccentric...crazy loves crazy.[/quote]

It is the combination of heat and humidity that fries one’s brain. Urban Meyer turned into Florida Man after being there for three months.

JackLord 01-10-2022 11:05 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1307633]It is the combination of heat and humidity that fries one’s brain. Urban Meyer turned into Florida Man after being there for three months.[/quote]

LOL! Made my morning.

Chico23231 01-10-2022 11:07 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Redskins247;1307632]Harbaugh to Miami? Maybe already had talks...Dolphins owner kind of crazy eccentric...crazy loves crazy.[/quote]

Dallas o-coordinator Kellen Moore will be a top target IMO

Teams want offense

EdmundDorf 01-10-2022 11:07 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=mooby;1307623]Current openings:

HC - Jacksonville, Denver, Minnesota, Chicago, Miami

GM - Minnesota, Chicago

Who goes where?[/quote]

Las Vegas?

Chico23231 01-10-2022 11:08 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
How does the Chargers coach still have a job?

MTK 01-10-2022 11:28 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307620]Re-posting on this thread:

Oh man, are the Giants going to keep their clown coach? Please do. LOL.

@JayGlazer
I believe Giants brass is torn on what to do w Joe Judge bc of revolving door of coaches they’ve had in recent years. Have hesitation to move on bc they’d add to that revolving door. At same time I have heard a ton of frustration inside that locker room. Not a little, a lot[/quote]

The QB sneak was Judge's version of the swinging gate by Zorn. Mara should have fired him at halftime for that BS. What a moron.

skinsfaninok 01-10-2022 11:41 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1307637]How does the Chargers coach still have a job?[/quote]

That was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen..

The Raiders were clearly set for a tie and the Chargers gave them an extra play!!

U can't make that shit up

skinsfaninok 01-10-2022 11:42 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=MTK;1307639]The QB sneak was Judge's version of the swinging gate by Zorn. Mara should have fired him at halftime for that BS. What a moron.[/quote]

And many in the media had them making the playoffs.

What a disaster

AnonEmouse 01-10-2022 11:54 AM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
They're not firing Staley after 1 9-8 season and him taking them within 1 FG (or timeout?) of the playoffs, no matter how dumb some of his calls have been. Given he has almost all the pieces in place for a good run at the playoffs next season, if he screws that up he'll be toast. I'd say disaster is a bit strong (just look at Jax), but yes, he should be on the hot seat if he can't get 2+ more wins next year.

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 12:44 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
@AdamSchefter
Dave Gettleman officially announced his retirement as Senior Vice President and General Manager of the New York Giants.

Bruce Allen of the North retires.

jamf 01-10-2022 01:00 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307617]
@AndrewBrandt
Dolphins drafted Tua ahead of Herbert and traded the Eagles a first-round pick to move up 6 spots. But the head coach is fired.[/quote]

This is brutal.

mooby 01-10-2022 01:19 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1307636]Las Vegas?[/quote]

I feel like the interim currently has a big edge considering the job he's done - don't really consider that a true opening.

AnonEmouse 01-10-2022 01:22 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307663]@AdamSchefter
Dave Gettleman officially announced his retirement as Senior Vice President and General Manager of the New York Giants.

Bruce Allen of the North retires.[/quote]

Now Judge may be feeling the heat...

sdskinsfan2001 01-10-2022 01:26 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Giants need to promote Judge to GM/HC.

Go coach-centric.

MTK 01-10-2022 01:27 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307668]Giants need to promote Judge to GM/HC.

Go coach-centric.[/quote]

:laughing2

Ruhskins 01-10-2022 01:53 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307668]Giants need to promote Judge to GM/HC.

Go coach-centric.[/quote]

:lol:

Chico23231 01-10-2022 02:29 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Gotta think kellen Moore, colts d coordinator Matt E and Eric Beinemy are the top coaching prospects along with John Harbaugh being his normal flake ass self

Giantone 01-10-2022 02:40 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=mooby;1307623]Current openings:

HC - Jacksonville, Denver, Minnesota, Chicago, Miami

GM - Minnesota, Chicago

Who goes where?[/quote]

GM , NY Giants

Chief X_Phackter 01-10-2022 02:46 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Chico23231;1307671]Gotta think kellen Moore, colts d coordinator Matt E and Eric Beinemy are the top coaching prospects along with John Harbaugh being his normal flake ass self[/quote]

I can see Bieniemy getting one if the Florida jobs, or even Chicago - to work with one of those young QBs. He should have been a head coach a couple years ago.

Giantone 01-10-2022 02:52 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1307663]@AdamSchefter
Dave Gettleman officially announced his retirement as Senior Vice President and General Manager of the New York Giants.

Bruce Allen of the North retires.[/quote]

Fuck that, agree he is a shitty GM but he never did the BS with female employees or the cheerleader squad . He has been part of more winners then Allen could ever dream of .

calia 01-10-2022 03:00 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1307663]@AdamSchefter
Dave Gettleman officially announced his retirement as Senior Vice President and General Manager of the New York Giants.

Bruce Allen of the North retires.[/QUOTE]


Addition by subtraction.


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mooby 01-10-2022 06:41 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1307668]Giants need to promote Judge to GM/HC.

Go coach-centric.[/quote]

:D

Firing on all cylinders today SD, well played.

rocnrik 01-10-2022 07:19 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
I can’t believe the dolphins fired Flores… that owner maybe worse than Snyder ..

CrustyRedskin 01-10-2022 07:49 PM

Re: Black Monday 2022 thread
 
Rich Bisaccia gets my COY vote. He did a helluva job. Gotta keep that guy.


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