Confirmed: Bruce Allen has been fired
 

[URL="https://www.redskins.com/news/statement-by-washington-redskins-owner-dan-snyder"]Statement By Washington Redskins Owner Dan Snyder[/URL]

"As this season concludes, Bruce Allen has been relieved of his duties as President of the Washington Redskins and is no longer with the organization. Like our passionate fan base, I recognize we have not lived up to the high standards set by great Redskins teams, coaches and players who have come before us. As we reevaluate our team leadership, culture and process for winning football games, I am excited for the opportunities that lie ahead to renew our singular focus and purpose of bringing championship football back to Washington D.C."

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I hope Snyder's re-evaluation leads him to realize he needs to stop meddling in player personnel decisions.

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it's about 3 or 4 years too late but GTFO.

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Huge relief that he's out and not "re-assigned"

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Awesome news! Makes suffering through this season worth it

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So who does the hiring of the next coach ? Snyder?

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The one thing I would like to see is Snyder take some blame too. The press release is fine, but he is the number one reason the franchise is in the state that it's in. I'd like to hear from Dan but we all know he's way too much of a pussy to face the media.

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[quote=MTK;1241098][URL="https://www.redskins.com/news/statement-by-washington-redskins-owner-dan-snyder"]Statement By Washington Redskins Owner Dan Snyder[/URL]

"As this season concludes, Bruce Allen has been relieved of his duties as President of the Washington Redskins and is no longer with the organization. Like our passionate fan base, I recognize[B] we [/B]have not lived up to the high standards set by great Redskins teams, coaches and players who have come before us. As we reevaluate our team leadership, culture and process for winning football games, I am excited for the opportunities that lie ahead to renew our singular focus and purpose of bringing championship football back to Washington D.C."[/quote]

He should have said "I"

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Happy fucking Monday!!

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It’s about fucking time!! He’s going on tour with Boy George and Culture Club, fuck him!!

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Yes!!!!!!!!

It was the only way

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We're "winning off the field"

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Great news. Tempered only by the history of the franchise after firing Cerrato. Snyder has to earn back the fans by bringing consistent winning professionals to the team and making sure that the organization is no longer dysfunctional.

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I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1241113]We're "winning off the field"[/quote]

We just won the Super Bowl off the field. Team should hold a parade

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1241106]The one thing I would like to see is Snyder take some blame too. The press release is fine, but he is the number one reason the franchise is in the state that it's in. I'd like to hear from Dan but we all know he's way too much of a pussy to face the media.[/QUOTE]



Agreed. Snyder is the man who put Cerrato and Allen in place and allowed them to run the circus as long a they did. He’s ultimately responsible for everything.


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I'd hope we can get TW back too, but its going to rely largely on who takes over from Allen and whether TW feels he can trust them. If TW doesn't trust DS or anyone he appoints, then I don't think anyone coming in will persuade him. Rivera might be able to convince him, but it's a big ask at this point and he may not even want to, preferring to get picks for TW and draft his replacement.

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You can't change the owner, so this is as happy as we can possibly be about our future.

Hallelujah, Bruce is gone!

The only times we made the playoffs under the Cerrato and Allen regimes were when they were not making the football decisions. Gibbs was given total control curing Cerrato's tenure, two playoff berths. Shanahan was given total control during Allen's tenure, one playoff berth. McCloughan was given GM control during Allen's tenure, one playoff berth.

Turning things over to Rivera is a definite positive compared to where we've been.

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Changes likely coming to training/rehab staff as well

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1241123]I'd hope we can get TW back too, but its going to rely largely on who takes over from Allen and whether TW feels he can trust them. [B]If TW doesn't trust DS[/B] or anyone he appoints, then I don't think anyone coming in will persuade him. Rivera might be able to convince him, but it's a big ask at this point and he may not even want to, preferring to get picks for TW and draft his replacement.[/quote]

I don't think this is the issue, Williams emphasized that he likes Snyder and doesn't hold anything against him when reporters asked Williams questions about the tumor situaton.

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I'm just worried if our damn good culture can survive this big change.

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I think Trent stays now

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I wouldn't mind TW staying, but regardless of the front office situation, I don't want a Lane Johnson-type extension. No way

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Snyder sure knows how to sweet talk us! Is he saying this because he's changed or because he just wants to keep ****ing us?

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Here's to you Bruce:

[url]https://youtu.be/yNCVriK5PjI?t=44[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhkNLHictW8[/url]

I'll never forget your winning culture and how close we got.

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[QUOTE=Coff;1241118]I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?[/QUOTE]


Trents situation was always about money and wanting a new multi-year contract with more guaranteed money. All the drama aside, Trent Williams is old, injury prone, and one drug test away from a 1 year suspension. He’s not the type of player you bring back at the kind of money he’ll demand. He’s the kind of guy you trade to clear cap space and get draft picks to improve your teams future.

Our offensive line did just fine without Trent Williams this year. Well do fine without him next year. If we bring him back, I’ll have lost any confidence in the new front office.


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[quote=Coff;1241118]I wonder if this decision will affect the Trent Williams situation. Can the team woo him back with the firing of Allen?[/quote]

Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1241149]Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.[/quote]

Kerrigan can only comeback if he takes a pay cut

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[quote=skinsfan69;1241149]Don't want him back. I'd also move on from Kerrigan as well. Out with the old.[/quote]

Agreed. It amazes me that some of the same people here who are excited by Bruce being gone are wanting the team to make the same dumb type of moves that Bruce would make. Keeping guys like Williams and Kerrigan is only something you should do if you are "close." We aren't. We have a good base of young talent, but we are rebuilding. If we're giving anyone big money (and we should have a lot in the offseason), it needs to be young, rising players.

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I'll say it. I am fine bringing back Trent for another year or two to postpone finding his replacement because we have bigger issues this offseason.

Did he handle himself appropriately this year while he sat out? Obviously not. I just disagree that he totally burned all his bridges with the organization.

You guys really think he was talking shit about Bruce Allen and the training staff/medical staff without guys on the team endorsing him to do it? I guarantee you there are guys in the locker room who wanted him to do it.

The fact is Bruce Allen is now out, and the training/medical staffs are most likely going to be revamped. Those are the only obstacles for Trent to come back. I'm not gung ho on giving him a new deal though, we hold the cards in that arena. I'd play hardball on his contract since he still owes us 2 years.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1241154]Agreed. It amazes me that some of the same people here who are excited by Bruce being gone are wanting the team to make the same dumb type of moves that Bruce would make. Keeping guys like Williams and Kerrigan is only something you should do if you are "close." We aren't. We have a good base of young talent, but we are rebuilding. If we're giving anyone big money (and we should have a lot in the offseason), it needs to be young, rising players.[/quote]

This is kinda how I lean, but the thing with Trent is super important position with a top 5 talent there. Add a year, up some guaranteed money and offer a short term deal. Then gather a plan to move on from Trent.

Kerrigan should go...

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So if Rivera is hired does this mean Norman stays? Apparently Norman is pretty happy about how situation is unfolding

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He let Norman walk before so it's not a sure thing but what is a sure thing is Norman would play much better in new system.

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cut norman today...he's done

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Hallelujah Jesus jumping jack cat shit it's about time.

Today is a great day for this franchise.

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[quote=Chico23231;1241160]This is kinda how I lean, but the thing with Trent is super important position with a top 5 talent there. Add a year, up some guaranteed money and offer a short term deal. Then gather a plan to move on from Trent.

Kerrigan should go...[/quote]Kerrigan, Williams, Norman, Reed, and Davis just off the top of my head.

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[quote=Chico23231;1241153]Kerrigan can only comeback if he takes a pay cut[/quote]

My thing w/ Kerrigan is we have to start getting rid of guys a year early vs. a year too late, regardless of pay cuts or team status. Let the guy go be a role player on a contending type of team. Joe Montana and Jerry Rice ended their careers on different teams, if they can then so can Ryan Kerrigan.

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I agree on keeping TW if we can get a friendly deal, as it lets us look at an LT next season/year after. I'd like Kerrigan to stay but that's me being sentimental, and if he is losing it, then move on. And if that means taking Young as an immediate replacement...

Norman has me in a quandary. Anyone think he might make the move to FS as others have done before? I'm inclined to move on if not, or his salary can't be made more friendly.

If we take Young, and we move to a 4-3, then we really need to address both tackles (assuming we don't bring TW back) and a starting corner, plus an upgrade at FS if we can. Not sure we have the picks for all that.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1241173]I agree on keeping TW if we can get a friendly deal, as it lets us look at an LT next season/year after. I'd like Kerrigan to stay but that's me being sentimental, and if he is losing it, then move on. And if that means taking Young as an immediate replacement...

Norman has me in a quandary. Anyone think he might make the move to FS as others have done before? I'm inclined to move on if not, or his salary can't be made more friendly.

If we take Young, and we move to a 4-3, then we really need to address both tackles (assuming we don't bring TW back) and a starting corner, plus an upgrade at FS if we can. Not sure we have the picks for all that.[/quote]

I just checked with TW, he's happily agreed to a [team] friendly deal, reiterating his desire to retire a Washington Redskin.

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Things Bruce did well:

- jumped on D Jax and got him signed to a reasonable deal
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