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That after the fact bullcrap is like me banging your wife then right after, telling you I shouldn't of done that and I apologize. Well no shit you shouldn't have done it. Go fuck yourself with that BS admission/apology.

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That after the fact bullcrap is like saying with all due respect before insulting you.

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To me, it's not just missing that flag. The phantom hold on Norman where we stopped them on 3rd down also took an extra minute or two off the clock and used our two timeouts. The combination of those two penalties at the end of the game was brutal.

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When it affects the Win/Loss column, and potential coaching jobs it’s a serious problem.

The officiating is getting worse and worse, and NFL needs to do something to fix it quickly. It’s lost all credibility. There are numerous officials that should be fired at this point.

I don’t see how with jumbo screens, instant replay, people watching from booths, and officials all over field how calls like these are missed when the FANS can see it.

We could be 7-3 if not for the those busted calls.


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Woulda, shoulda, coulda. This is part of the game there is not a team out their that has not had to contend with the same issue . While I want the right call made I am tired of this booth review crap. You can call a penalty on every play and it goes both ways at times.

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I watched with disgust yesterday as an NFL Network guy promoted the Thanksgiving Day Game and suggested that Dallas can can take over the lead NFC East with a win. Then he said when "Americas Teams is in 1st place the ratings go up, America is happy and the NFL is happy."
WTF! How can they say that shit on the NFL Network?
I wonder if there was some shitty referee mistakes in the Dallas vs. Atlanta game that might have helped Dallas and the NFL get in this position?

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A Giants' fan's opinion is not valid or legitimate on this issue as to how Skins fans see the ref screwjobs:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1208662]A Giants' fan's opinion is not valid or legitimate on this issue as to how Skins fans see the ref screwjobs:

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LOL, just saying all the NFL teams get screwed over at times , that is all.

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[quote=Daseal;1208655]To me, it's not just missing that flag. The phantom hold on Norman where we stopped them on 3rd down also took an extra minute or two off the clock and used our two timeouts. The combination of those two penalties at the end of the game was brutal.[/quote]

And everyone is forgetting the alleged fumble by Hopkins we recovered.That call went in our favor but the refs royally fucked that call up too! That was not a fumble by Hopkins,he never had possession.But,it looked like the ball never touched the ground so it would have been an interception,which they did not explain if that was their thinking.That crew gets a big F and should be demoted to high school :spank:

Also there was a pass to Hopkins on the sideline in the first or second qtr that looked to me like it wasnt even close,1 foot down,but they didnt replay it because they did some announcement{promotional bs} right after play was over and just passed right over it

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[quote=Giantone;1208658]Woulda, shoulda, coulda. This is part of the game there is not a team out their that has not had to contend with the same issue . While I want the right call made I am tired of this booth review crap. You can call a penalty on every play and it goes both ways at times.[/quote]

With all due respect, STFU Giantone.

Don’t come on our board after we clearly got screwed, twice, with official NFL apologies for one, to effectively end the game for us. We truly don’t need this crap from you, right now or ever. So if you had a point to make, please make it, otherwise, well, what I said above.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1208662]A Giants' fan's opinion is not valid or legitimate on this issue as to how Skins fans see the ref screwjobs:



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Agreed. His view is perverted, and his opinion is bias.


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[quote=Giantone;1208658]Woulda, shoulda, coulda. This is part of the game there is not a team out their that has not had to contend with the same issue . While I want the right call made I am tired of this booth review crap. You can call a penalty on every play and it goes both ways at times.[/quote]

Yea, sounds like something Wellington Mara might say after a screw job.

On par with the salary cap penalty pushed by the Mara's.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1208666]With all due respect, STFU Giantone.

Don’t come on our board after we clearly got screwed, twice, with official NFL apologies for one, to effectively end the game for us. We truly don’t need this crap from you, right now or ever. So if you had a point to make, please make it, otherwise, well, what I said above.[/quote]

Fully understood, name justy one NFL team who has never had a bad call go against them and I will as you say ,........STFU .Until then ......

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[url]https://nypost.com/2018/11/20/the-nfl-pissed-off-everyone-with-rams-chiefs-all-star-refs/[/url]

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The ref or refs should be fired. It's sad cause these zebras are having an effect of outcomes of games and the careers of people. The Docston no call was so obvious, the guy was not making any attempt what so ever to look back at the ball. He got in the way of Doc trying to make a catch. And then before that you call some ticky tack bullshit on Norman? That is just such an obvious attempt to have the Redskins lose the game. What a joke. They can take that apology and go fuck themselves.

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Gruden should have lost it in them in the press conference. How could the NFL do anything about it when they’re coming back 3 days later to apologize that they missed the calls?


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Well Gruden will get fined cause the NFL is so thin skinned they can't take refs getting heat from coaches or players. Such bullshit.

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You're right , all of you. My point is we use replay to much and now the Refs are relying on it and not making the right calls . As someone else pointed out with the big jumbo trons now in every stadium they can see more than the refs can. There is too much room in the rules now for "interpretation",hitting the QB this year is a joke and no one knows what is right. I personally (JMHO) feel the game was run better back without all these challenges and replays. But I am old as crap ....so.

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Replay should be available on every play and penalty call. Still limit it to 2 per half, and inside 2 keep the current rules on what the outside booth reviews. They say there is holding on every play, if a coach for example wants to waste two challenges for those 20 yards fine let him. Most coaches have shown reasonable caution on throwing the challenge flag.

Also if a game has more than 3 successful challenges the refs ought to he fined for performance. G1 you said they have come to rely on it and i agree, so incentivize them not to mess it up. This would mean replay decisions would be completely out of the field refs hands lest they try to avoid fines.

Finally if a rule is determined too ambiguous to be evaluated -like the qb protection rule - evenly it ought to be classified as an automatic review like turnovers and scores are.

Most of these reviews can happen in the time of setting up the next play, especially when a penalty or change of possession is involved.

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[quote=Giantone;1208684]You're right , all of you. My point is we use replay to much and now the Refs are relying on it and not making the right calls . As someone else pointed out with the big jumbo trons now in every stadium they can see more than the refs can. There is too much room in the rules now for "interpretation",hitting the QB this year is a joke and no one knows what is right. I personally (JMHO) feel the game was run better back without all these challenges and replays. But I am old as crap ....so.[/quote]

I agree g1 , I hate the replay delay. I want no more challenges for coaches.

The refs and the league need to tone it down on pass interference and defensive holding on receivers.

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They have an entire officiating staff that sits in the booth from above and who can see various monitors, screens, and every angle. Why are they not buzzing down to the staff on the field that these plays needs to be reviewed???????It makes NO sense that this isn’t happening.


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Never. Next topic.

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I hope everyone understands the view from the stands or from your TV set is a lot better than from the eyes of a referee on a football field. Referees are calling penalties from watching the play one time full speed at field level. You also have 7 officials watching 22 players, calls will be missed, plain and simple. The problems that make it appear officiating has gotten worse comes down to the evolution of the rules and their interpretation to favor the offense.

There didn't used to be hoards of subjective calls or gray areas, things were cut and dry. Offensive lineman were not allowed to grab in any shape or form or even extend their arms away from their body when blocking. Illegal use of hands or holding could be spotted from the nose bleed seats. Quarterbacks were treated like every one else, a defender at full speed could hit a QB if he was within two strides when the ball was released. Personal foul calls were limited to late hits or taking a swing at someone. I could go on and on, the game is just a lot harder to officiate than it used to be and it seems to get more difficult by each passing season.

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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1208675]Gruden should have lost it in them in the press conference. How could the NFL do anything about it when they’re coming back 3 days later to apologize that they missed the calls?


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Gruden and Doctson should have flipped out on the sideline, just short of getting a 15 yarder.

I hate whining about calls, but it works. Coaches and players who whine get more calls than those who don't.

They should have acted like it was the biggest travesty they've ever seen. Pointing at the big screen, throwing clip boards and head sets.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1208697]I hope everyone understands the view from the stands or from your TV set is a lot better than from the eyes of a referee on a football field. Referees are calling penalties from watching the play one time full speed at field level. You also have 7 officials watching 22 players, calls will be missed, plain and simple. The problems that make it appear officiating has gotten worse comes down to the evolution of the rules and their interpretation to favor the offense.



There didn't used to be hoards of subjective calls or gray areas, things were cut and dry. Offensive lineman were not allowed to grab in any shape or form or even extend their arms away from their body when blocking. Illegal use of hands or holding could be spotted from the nose bleed seats. Quarterbacks were treated like every one else, a defender at full speed could hit a QB if he was within two strides when the ball was released. Personal foul calls were limited to late hits or taking a swing at someone. I could go on and on, the game is just a lot harder to officiate than it used to be and it seems to get more difficult by each passing season.[/QUOTE]



Still doesn’t explain what I said above. There’s a team of officials sitting in a booth monitoring everything on multiple screens and angles. Why are they not buzzing down to the field about these OBVIOUS AND BLATANT missed calls?

I’ll tell you why. Because games are fixed now to help ratings. Funny how the Skins and Dallas are playing on national TV this week, the networks need a good viewership. See how many calls were missed in Dallas’ favor last week to help them win, and how many were missed against the Skins last week to help them lose?

It created the show down we have today. It wouldn’t have been nearly as interesting if Washington went to 7-3 and Dallas went to 4-6. NFL is desperate for ratings, and as fan following gets worse they’ll get more desperate.

I’ve lost all respect and credibility for the NFL


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1208700]Still doesn’t explain what I said above. There’s a team of officials sitting in a booth monitoring everything on multiple screens and angles. Why are they not buzzing down to the field about these OBVIOUS AND BLATANT missed calls?
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Penalties cannot be reviewed. I believe the officials in the booth are considered to be part of the review system.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1208699]Gruden and Doctson should have flipped out on the sideline, just short of getting a 15 yarder.

I hate whining about calls, but it works. Coaches and players who whine get more calls than those who don't.

They should have acted like it was the biggest travesty they've ever seen. Pointing at the big screen, throwing clip boards and head sets.[/quote]

Yes!!!!

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Every penalty on the field needs able to be reviewed, and the coach should have some way to challenge when it is obvious that the ref's made a bogus call. Give coaches however many penalty challenges each half.

Penalties in the final 2 minutes, just like scores, automatically are reviewed.

Ref's need some kind of grading system from this, say for example after having X amount of penalties overturned within a certain span of time, the ref is terminated..

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Fuck you pieces of shit refs!! How many times will they fuck us!!

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Somebody on Twitter had a good idea. Any time the refs screw up, the team they screwed up should get some cap relief.

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The Moreau call, non-call on Harris and Reed, refs suck dick!!

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I for one wish there was some outrage from our institution about this.
Dan, they allready hate you and won't Grant you a sb. And you were maras bitch. Why not just burn them down?

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I know there are bad calls on each side but man how does Reed get blasted in the face and there's no call.

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[quote=MTK;1209315]I know there are bad calls on each side but man how does Reed get blasted in the face and there's no call.[/quote]

That would have been a penalty 30 years ago it was so blatant.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1209315]I know there are bad calls on each side but man how does Reed get blasted in the face and there's no call.[/QUOTE]It was ridiculous. While I don't blame the refs for the team losses, they sure have made it impossible for the team to have a chance.

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Missed facemask on Colt
According to Aikman a penalty called against Moreau wasn’t as bad the as the shirt grab on Harris that was not called
Reed head/face shot

Are the refs blind or ignoring those calls?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1209360]Missed facemask on Colt
According to Aikman a penalty called against Moreau wasn’t as the as the shirt grab on Harris that was not called
Reed head/face shot

Are the refs blind or ignoring those calls?[/quote]

Purposely not calling them.

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[quote=doughtydoubter;1209270]I for one wish there was some outrage from our institution about this.
Dan, they allready hate you and [B]won't Grant you a sb[/B]. And you were maras bitch. Why not just burn them down?[/quote]

To be perfectly honest I don't think there has been a Redskins team that could have sniffed the super bowl during the Dan Snyder era.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1209446]To be perfectly honest I don't think there has been a Redskins team that could have sniffed the super bowl during the Dan Snyder era.[/QUOTE]


99 team was pretty good but can’t really given DS any credit for it