Media Bias
 

This probably will end up being the most quixotic thread on the Warpath. Nearly every person not in the pure Democratic block will acknowledge that Mainstream media, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC and CBS, have a shockingly strong liberal/democratic bias in there reporting. Likewise, other than the few fanatical conservatives, most every one will acknowledge that FoxNews and a few others have a strong conservative/republican bias. I don't think this is really in dispute.

But, sometimes, the stench of it overwhelms the senses. I hope that this thread becomes more a testimony to the truth of media bias, then to bitter petty disputes of whether the latest Trump tweet or Hillary Clinton pronouncement are specific examples. With that I offer two examples, though there are many, of how far the liberal media will stoop to stay in HC's good graces.

1st, and this amazed me. CBS the first night of the Republican convention aired a sitdown conversation with Hillary at 10:45PM on the national broadcast, while the convention was still in swing .

2nd, from current yahoo ticker as the Main picture on the yahoo home page:
[URL="https://www.yahoo.com/news/truth-debbie-delivered-reince-didn-000000091.html"]The truth is Debbie Delivered. Reince Didn't[/URL] So if I understand right, rigging and tampering with the outcome of the elections is delivering, allowing the public vote to determine the nominee of the party is not delivering. Forgetting the incredibly Orwellian nature of that headline, the bias I see is where Yahoo puts its name to a deflection story, making Debbie sound purposeful and good, while Reince is incompetent, and the Republicans are fools. I didn't read the article yet, but for the purposes of showing Bias, my point is not for those that read the article in depth, but that when the average citizen looks at Yahoo and sees Debbie Delivered, Reince didn't it becomes almost subliminal in it's cumulative effect.


I would hope people will add their best examples of media bias here. I'd hope that it wouldn't devolve into back and forth, but a place where Maybe, JUST maybe, we can apply critical thinking and listen to both sides views of media portrayals of world events.

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In truth I think, few Americans actually try to be aware of what is really going on in the country. Rather they are satisfied with tossing around "Yahoo" style grenades as truth......AND, obviously they are not. The political system is a disgrace, failing us and the media feeds us what we want. If not, we would stop patronizing them.

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I can't quote to a lot of this because I agree there is a good bit of media bias on both sides, but I'll just leave this here: If people use one or two news channels as their only source of information, I can understand how people can be mislead.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to find unbiased news sources online. I can't think of one that really exists on TV. If someone has one, I'd be really interested to check it out.

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Really would like to find an unbiased watchdog group too give us facts. Lotta media companies are clearly in bed with political elements

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When you really think about it, is it possible for completely unbiased reporting? And is this issue based more on perception than reality? I'd be interested to see some studies on this.

I think more than ever people seek out the truth they want to hear.

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[quote=MTK;1144994]When you really think about it, is it possible for completely unbiased reporting? And is this issue based more on perception than reality? I'd be interested to see some studies on this.

I think more than ever people seek out the truth they want to hear.[/quote]

Your right bout people want to seek out what they want to hear. Well said.


My problem is much like the thin blue line of the police, the media will scream freedom of the press, speech etc. and act defensive whenever challenged.

Certainly editorials vs news reporting is lost. And that's bullshit. It's a disgrace to present the news and then precede to tell me how I must interpret it.

News reporting is also moving closer to tabloid more than ever...I blame that on dumb Americans more than anything.

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The media has including social media has become maybe the powerful force in the country.

There is a vested interest for controlling the narrative more than ever...special interest groups as well as political parties.

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The real problem in this world is that people are for the most part mindless minions. Don't believe everything you read. Trust your gut not your computer screen. Mind over media people.

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Like Matty said - more than ever people are seeking out the truth that THEY WANT to hear. I got a huge bleeding lump on my head - i know ill go on web md and keep clicking different buttons until it tells me its a really bad mosquito bite. Boom! Cured!
Amazing that after all the human race has accomplished that they still can't think for themselves.

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Its more than just people seeking out what they want to hear. It's the media packaging the materials in ways that purposefully mislead or create a sympathy towards whatever ideology it's biased towards. It's often done subtly but sometimes it's blatant. My two examples were one of each, but both were definitely reflective of specific bias.

Often it's done because a certain part of our society berates those who disagree with their "educated" views as small minded, or they presume that their view is the only correct view.

You can see media bias pretty easily if you look at sites using [URL="http://thinkeracademy.com/critical-thinking-skills/"]critical thinking skills[/URL]. Are they pushing an agenda? Do the reported facts and story line up with the story Headline. (Headline writers often aren't the same as those who write the stories, and their job is to draw in people to read the actual story, so if a headline is grossly misstating the facts reported then some form of bias may be at play). Does a site/media outlets facts vary from other reputable sites (not other mainstream media that all get their stories from one or two sources).

Media Bias happens from both sides. You hope that by searching and reading you can find out the "truth" (the truth is out there Mulder). But I am more and more skeptical that any of the fourth estate can be seen as more than lapdogs.

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[url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-weekend-shootings-chicago-violence-20160801-story.html]Deadliest July in Chicago in 10 years - Chicago Tribune[/url]


65 people killed in July which pushes Chicago total homicide rate to almost 400...total all of last year was 490.

You really wont hear about this from the national news for several reason...first the police aren't doing the killings. second, Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the entire nation...

So the first 2 narratives are out

Minor ones, is Rahm Emanuel, Obama's right hand man and close personal friend, has run that city into the ground. Chicago is a smoking heap of garbage these days. Tax issue, school issues, gangs run rampant, and the killings. When you have trash run the city, you get a city full of trash. new proof: [url=http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-31/rahm-emanuel-says-chicago-pension-crisis-improving-facts-show-he-lying]Rahm Emanuel Says Chicago Pension Crisis "Improving", Facts Show He Is Lying | Zero Hedge[/url], [url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-chicago-property-tax-double-whammy-met-20160731-story.html]Chicago property tax bill double whammy: Increases plus an assessment hike - Chicago Tribune[/url]

Also, you wont hear of the any national protest group throwing a fit, blocking highways...they are absolutely a-ok with the killings.

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A simple google news search shows plenty of results on the topic. It's no big secret what's going on there.

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Yeah, but its not being reported on. Chicago and the violence going on there, its an epidemic. It deserves national coverage. If violence is down nationally over the last 20-25 years, why are so many people dying? Look at kids under 18 killed there. Its insane and out of step.

You don't see any investigative reports, CNN or MSNBC doing specials...CBS???

I don't really understand the focus on police or mass shooting but the national media seems to be almost complicit in its coverage in the violence in Chicago.

I firmly believe because some national narratives are not in line with what stories are being pushed by major news org then its conscious efforts made not to report it. If it doesn't support the agenda or goes against "news trends" then why bring it up?

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Recent articles

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/04/us/chicago-shootings.html?_r=0[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/31/us/chicago-shootings-homicides-summer/]Chicago murders: Fears of a long, hot and deadly summer - CNN.com[/url]

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/amp/[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/us/chicago-police-department-documents/]Why is Chicago so broken? Hundreds of newly released files detail violence - CNN.com[/url]

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recent?.
June 4th, April 1st, July 9th, Jun 5th

65 homicides in Chicago in July.

I think Chico's point is that while the media may write on it, they don't draw attention to it as they would if one of their pet causes were at stake. Maybe they feel dwelling on it is to negative and dark. Who knows.

For Example: On CNN homepage there is not one reference to Inner City murder rates. Or MSNBC which has a link to the Black Lives Matter policy paper outlining their agenda, but again, not one story on the damage done to our inner cities by violence.

I know this will be dismissed by some people, but when everyone stops playing political games with US citizens, maybe we could move forward. That includes Republicans, Democrats, BLM, Tea Party advocates, and the national media.

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[quote=MTK;1145170]Recent articles

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/04/us/chicago-shootings.html?_r=0[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/31/us/chicago-shootings-homicides-summer/]Chicago murders: Fears of a long, hot and deadly summer - CNN.com[/url]

[url]https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/07/09/how-the-ferguson-effect-is-destroying-chicago/amp/[/url]

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/03/us/chicago-police-department-documents/]Why is Chicago so broken? Hundreds of newly released files detail violence - CNN.com[/url][/quote]

The 2 bottom posted articles that blame police, so that's part of the narrative I'm talking bout. It only makes news if it incriminates the police as the problem for folks picking up guns and shooting one another. This thinking doesn't make sense.

Could the policing improve in Chicago...yup, I think so. Are the motive for these killings is becuase the community hates police? It doesn't make sense.

Media Bias
 

July isn't recent?? Google news has plenty of more recent ones if it suits your fancy. Not sure I'd say it's an issue that's being ignored.

[url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Chicago+violence+news+[/url]

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I just pointed out the dates. I googled as well. Point is Zika, which hasn't done nearly as much damage, is in the news daily, with 14 confirmed cases, maybe, just maybe, 65 murders in a month demands as much national attention.

maybe not, who knows which lives matter anymore.

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Disease is always the sexier story I guess.

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Another story being way under reported is the Isis/Syrian/Iraq conflict. Why is this important: the most well financed, well armed, largest terrorist organization of all time. They are a well oiled machine and our currently they are responsible for acts of terror at the at an enormous rate in something like twenty-some countries over the last 3 year. Scope people. They are committing genocide openingly and proudly broadcasting it. Even the most evil of past regimes would go through a lot to cover up genocide and war crimes.

Once again the media is ignoring it and covering it in very limited basis. Instead of the media asking the administration tough questions...they look the other way. You don't see editorials or opinions that our critical of the administration current policy.

When folks look back at these atrocities, it's clear we could have done more to save lives across the world. They will wonder why we were so weak during this time period. I mean the pope came out and said we are at war...


All right I'll stop my bitching, I just think around the country we are paying attention to the wrong things and we will continue to pay a heavy price until things change. I think the media has done a pretty terrible job of honest reporting.

Reactive type thinking, headline grabbing stories with little substance and worst of all :editorial and opinion rather than fact based reporting has really not help our society deal with obvious problem.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1145178]Disease is always the sexier story I guess.[/QUOTE]



Finally I get to post this article!

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3275562/Nurse-Crohn-s-disease-unveils-range-lingerie-high-waisted-pants-make-women-stoma-bags-feel-sexy-again.html[/url]

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For the scientifically challenged among us, Zika has the potential to cause a massive number of birth defects and do damage to a very large number of lives. It's a scary story because of the potential considerations for anybody looking to get pregnant and travel to South Florida or Central America.

Researchers don't currently have a great understanding of the illness, how it causes the birth defects, how to detect it often enough, and how to prevent transmission.

It's not the number of problems it has caused so far that matters, it's the potential for the number it could cause.

Gun violence in Chicago is daily life. There's no news story there. What changed? Why is it different? So why would it be a big headline?

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It's all Obama's fault

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[quote=Schneed10;1145229]For the scientifically challenged among us, Zika has the potential to cause a massive number of birth defects and do damage to a very large number of lives. It's a scary story because of the potential considerations for anybody looking to get pregnant and travel to South Florida or Central America.

Researchers don't currently have a great understanding of the illness, how it causes the birth defects, how to detect it often enough, and how to prevent transmission.

It's not the number of problems it has caused so far that matters, it's the potential for the number it could cause.

Gun violence in Chicago is daily life. There's no news story there. What changed? Why is it different? So why would it be a big headline?[/quote]

Well that's kinda the point. Its not because anybody is ignorant, its because the media has not informed folks around the country that it hasn't been just a normal 5 years of typical violence within Chicago...this year especially has been terrible. Its been an epidemic.

It does buck the trend of violence in the country has been down across the country and it puts away the case for gun control because Chicago has the strictest in the country. But most wouldn't know Chicago has the strictest gun control...its not covered because it doesn't support the narrative.

The only time Chicago had any REAL coverage this year was the release of the video showing the police officer basically commit murder of the young man with the knife. The truth is Police involved killings have been WAYYYYY down over the last 5 years in Chicago. How would you know that? Well, you wouldn't because that doesn't support a media driven narrative of young minorities are being hunted by police. Its complete and utter nonsense.

[U][B]The media has supported efforts in an attempt to almost entice them for coverage opportunities. Editorials, Opinions are passed off as facts, which is incorrect and violates principle ethics of journalism. When you sensationalize stories for ratings, advertisements or clicks by tapping in emotional issues, Im sorry, you are part of the problem. Look what happened in Baton Rouge and in Dallas with the killings of police.....it was never BLM or protest groups over very real problems within some communities across the country....it was the driving of high emotional issues on a 24/7/365 news cycle with little facts or rationale. [/B][/U]

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We're in an age of information overload. Ultimately it falls on people to be critical thinkers and to not take things at face value.

"Think for yourself and question authority".

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[quote=Chico23231;1145237]Well that's kinda the point. Its not because anybody is ignorant, its because the media has not informed folks around the country that it hasn't been just a normal 5 years of typical violence within Chicago...this year especially has been terrible. Its been an epidemic.

It does buck the trend of violence in the country has been down across the country and it puts away the case for gun control because Chicago has the strictest in the country. But most wouldn't know Chicago has the strictest gun control...its not covered because it doesn't support the narrative.

The only time Chicago had any REAL coverage this year was the release of the video showing the police officer basically commit murder of the young man with the knife. The truth is Police involved killings have been WAYYYYY down over the last 5 years in Chicago. How would you know that? Well, you wouldn't because that doesn't support a media driven narrative of young minorities are being hunted by police. Its complete and utter nonsense.

[U][B]The media has supported efforts in an attempt to almost entice them for coverage opportunities. Editorials, Opinions are passed off as facts, which is incorrect and violates principle ethics of journalism. When you sensationalize stories for ratings, advertisements or clicks by tapping in emotional issues, Im sorry, you are part of the problem. Look what happened in Baton Rouge and in Dallas with the killings of police.....it was never BLM or protest groups over very real problems within some communities across the country....it was the driving of high emotional issues on a 24/7/365 news cycle with little facts or rationale. [/B][/U][/quote]

What are the stats in Chicago? How many firearm murders this year vs previous years?

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sorry for the delayed response:
These numbers are from:
[URL="http://heyjackass.com/category/2016-stats/"]http://heyjackass.com/category/2016-stats/[/URL]
YTD 2016:
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 370
Shot & Wounded: 2087
Total Shot: 2457
Total Homicides: 410

JULY 2016:
Shot & Killed: 66
Shot & Wounded: 382
Total Shot: 448
Total Homicides: 71

4 days into August:
August to Date
Shot & Killed: 5
Shot & Wounded: 33
Total Shot: 38
Total Homicides: 7

July 2016 Final Stupidity Tally: 71 killed, 382 wounded
July 2015: 58 dead, 271 wounded
July 2014: 46 dead, 277 wounded

Graphic below is 1st quarter only. (That's what came up when I googled Chicago Homicide Rate)
[IMG]http://www.gannett-cdn.com/usatoday/editorial/graphics/2016/04/040116-Chicago-Crimes.jpg[/IMG]

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nbc-exec-negative-stories-good-for-ad-sales-014445187.html]NBC exec: 'Negative stories good for ad sales'[/url]

Benefits from pushing negative news stories. This isn't from a garbage mid-level associate...but an executive who has a say in the strategy of the company.

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Well - Chicago violence got on the front page of CNN:

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/index.html]Chicago police release video related to shooting of unarmed man - CNN.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1145238]We're in an age of information overload. Ultimately it falls on people to be critical thinkers and to not take things at face value.

"Think for yourself and question authority".[/QUOTE]



Exactly what I am saying. Again, amazing that after all the human race has accomplished that we cannot grasp this.

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[quote=punch it in;1145286]Exactly what I am saying. Again, amazing that after all the human race has accomplished that we cannot grasp this.[/quote]

Think for yourself, question authority, but don't dare suggest that the media shows a bias in it's reporting of issues.

alles klar herr kommisar

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1145292]Think for yourself, question authority, but don't dare suggest that the media shows a bias in it's reporting of issues.



alles klar herr kommisar[/QUOTE]



Lol. Im not doubting it at all. Media outlets are still run by a human who has his or her own views/agenda.
But thats the point. Ultimately its one persons views. Not mine.
Edit: im in no way saying you are wrong. Didn't mean to come across that way. You are 100% right. Think for yourself and to hell with the media.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1145285]Well - Chicago violence got on the front page of CNN:

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/us/chicago-police-shooting-video-release/index.html]Chicago police release video related to shooting of unarmed man - CNN.com[/url][/quote]

[url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-man-wounded-in-grand-crossing-shooting-20160805-story.html]4 dead, 17 wounded in Chicago shootings - Chicago Tribune[/url]

17 wounded, 4 dead in shootings on Friday in Chicago. But you won't hear it about, no police involved, no protest marches.

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Well.....if Trump Burped, You'll here about that........

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/search/?text=ghostbusters]Search CNN - Videos, Pictures, and News - CNN.com[/url]

[url=http://www.msnbc.com/search/ghostbuster]Search | MSNBC[/url]

Noticed today several media outlets reporting on what a flop the movie Ghostbusters is...to the tune of 70 million. ouch.

Ive noticed that CNN nor MSNBC isn't running the story anywhere...but if you click the link above you notice the over reporting and editorials about Ghostbusters as the movie was being promoted. Strange, all those stories about 1 movie. Many of these articles publishing opinions such as if you don't like the new ghostbusters movie, idea, etc then your a sexist. Because remember if you don't agree or even just 1 reservations...then your an asshole essentially. Your not allowed to disagree in this new world. It just striking, why in the fucking world would a supposed news org be so interested in such a dumb movie?

Lets admit...dumb idea, bad cast, bad acting and bad movie...right? And when the numbers back it up today...its not reported. Strange how the liberal media works.

When you search Suicide Squad for MSNBC...not one article...

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the Tumblr account just-shower-thoughts is one of those throwaway one liner type accounts, but it does push out some unique thoughts from time to time. A few sample ones:

"American journalism has gotten to the point that readers are criticized for not fact checking news articles"

"Americans are worried about violence in Rio yet 19 people were shot in Chicago today and I see little coverage of it" (not sure of post date, but does it matter?)

"Every Olympic event should have one average person competing for reference"

"I live in a country that argues over whether a certain person should be the most powerful person in the country or be in prison"

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1145396]the Tumblr account just-shower-thoughts is one of those throwaway one liner type accounts, but it does push out some unique thoughts from time to time. A few sample ones:


"I live in a country that argues over whether a certain person should be the most powerful person in the country or be in prison"[/quote]



No truer words have been spoken!

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It's all fine and dandy to say "people need to think for themselves" but the reality is that good journalism is a key component of a successful and enduring democracy. Once our society loses its only tool for keeping our elected officials and unelected bureaucrats in check then we've lost democracy. I think it's pretty ironic that in some ways, during this age of information overload, many people operate within our democracy with even less information than ever before. i suspect you'll find very few people who wouldn't agree that the state of journalism in our country is at an all time low.

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[quote=FRPLG;1145412]It's all fine and dandy to say "people need to think for themselves" but the reality is that good journalism is a key component of a successful and enduring democracy. Once our society loses its only tool for keeping our elected officials and unelected bureaucrats in check then we've lost democracy. I think it's pretty ironic that in some ways, during this age of information overload, many people operate within our democracy with even less information than ever before. i suspect you'll find very few people who wouldn't agree that the state of journalism in our country is at an all time low.[/quote]

One guy at my work, not a sharp cookie to start with, was going on and on about Trump's wall. No big deal right, I mean everyone agrees that the basic concept is not really going to happen. BUT, then he says something to the effect of "Yeah, he wants to be a dictator like Hitler" and I asked what that had to do with the wall. "Well Hitler built his wall in Germany" :doh::doh:

We are doomed...

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/16/cnn-edits-out-milwaukee-victims-sister-sherelle-sm/]CNN edits out Milwaukee victim's sister Sherelle Smith calling for violence in 'the suburbs' - Washington Times[/url]