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punch it in 11-10-2015 09:05 AM

Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
I know its early but I am sick of talking about who Kirk Cousins is. Lol. Lets put the Pats game behind us and get down to business. Have to win alot of games this second half of the season and it all starts with the Aints.
Skins 31
Aints 21

skinsfan69 11-10-2015 09:41 AM

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Saints are going to score so we're going to have to do the same. But since the Saints are not the same team on the road, and we've been good at home, I think we can win this game.

Skins coaches need to stop with the conservative shit and get the ball to our wr's and abuse their defense. A rookie QB just lit them up. I can't name one Titans wr or TE. We need to do the same.

Skins 34
Saints 28

calia 11-10-2015 09:45 AM

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Let's just hope our WRs don't have JPP hands this week.


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over the mountain 11-10-2015 12:49 PM

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Washington tried out Brian De La Puente, Cyrus Gray, Storm Johnson in addition to signing LaRon Byrd, Carlos Fields and Anthony Johnson

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Odd they wouldnt bring De La Peunte for a look at the beginning of the bye week and waited until now. I guess LeRibeus is more injured than expected?

KI Skins Fan 11-10-2015 01:35 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1128171]Saints are going to score so we're going to have to do the same. But since the Saints are not the same team on the road, and we've been good at home, I think we can win this game.

[B]Skins coaches need to stop with the conservative shit [/B]and get the ball to our wr's and abuse their defense. A rookie QB just lit them up. I can't name one Titans wr or TE. We need to do the same.

Skins 34
Saints 28[/quote]

That "conservative shit" [U]is[/U] Gruden's offense. I didn't like his offense and play calling when he was in Cincy and I like it even less here.

30gut 11-10-2015 02:00 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128191]That "conservative shit" [U]is[/U] Gruden's offense. I didn't like his offense and play calling when he was in Cincy and I like it even less here.[/quote]I like his passing game concepts but that's about it. His offense lacks efficiency and his use of personnel has good players struggling more then they should. Morris, Garcon the OL.

Chico23231 11-10-2015 02:02 PM

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[quote=30gut;1128197]I like his passing game concepts but that's about it. His offense lacks efficiency and his use of personnel has good players struggling more then they should. Morris, Garcon the OL.[/quote]

its amazing what a change in O-Cordinator can do, look at the luck's performance against the best defense in the league this past weekend. Chud is a beast.

Chief X_Phackter 11-10-2015 03:26 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128191]That "conservative shit" [U]is[/U] Gruden's offense. I didn't like his offense and play calling when he was in Cincy and I like it even less here.[/quote]

It's called the West Coast offense and it can be pretty effective if your receivers/backs catch the ball and/or don't fumble.


A decent running game, and a legitimate deep threat don't hurt either.


The concepts of this offense are pretty similar to a lot of other variations of the WC offense that have been used successfully in the past, and are currently being executed successfully throughout the league. It's all about the execution. Jay and Sean can draw up good plays all day, but if the players don't execute properly, it matters not.

punch it in 11-10-2015 04:24 PM

Re: Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1128202]It's called the West Coast offense and it can be pretty effective if your receivers/backs catch the ball and/or don't fumble.


A decent running game, and a legitimate deep threat don't hurt either.


The concepts of this offense are pretty similar to a lot of other variations of the WC offense that have been used successfully in the past, and are currently being executed successfully throughout the league. It's all about the execution. Jay and Sean can draw up good plays all day, but if the players don't execute properly, it matters not.[/QUOTE]


Rite - get some wr's who can play n a damn running game and our offense would be quite good. We need wr's and oline help on offense. That will be addressed - or we could just fire everyone and start from scratch.

Hog1 11-10-2015 04:32 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1128204]Rite - get some wr's who can play n a damn running game and our offense would be quite good. We need wr's and oline help on offense. That will be addressed - or [B]we could just fire everyone and start from scratch.[/B][/quote]

That philosophy has served us well in the past....right?

punch it in 11-10-2015 04:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1128205]That philosophy has served us well in the past....right?[/QUOTE]


Oh ... Many times over.

Hog1 11-10-2015 05:13 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1128191]That "[B]conservative shit[/B]" [U]is[/U] Gruden's offense. I didn't like his offense and play calling when he was in Cincy and I like it even less here.[/quote]

It's actually been quite a....saucy offense for guys like Bill Walsh....Joe Montana....Jerry Rice......Steve Young....5 SB's (not to mention most of the NFL)
...something like that

over the mountain 11-10-2015 05:20 PM

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The Redskins announced they have placed center Kory Lichtensteiger on the injured reserve list with a designation to return. They signed center Brian de la Puente to take his roster spot. Lichtensteiger has been battling a pinched nerve in his neck.
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skinsfan69 11-10-2015 05:47 PM

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[quote=30gut;1128197]I like his passing game concepts but that's about it. His offense lacks efficiency and his use of personnel has good players struggling more then they should. Morris, Garcon the OL.[/quote]

The demise of Morris is baffling to me.

MTK 11-10-2015 05:51 PM

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The demise of the running game in general is baffling, but it's mostly due to the OL.

kct1975 11-10-2015 07:36 PM

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So unfortunately this is bad news...

Redskins place Kory Lichtensteiger on IR-recall, sign Brian de la Puente
[url]http://www.thescore.com/news/878272[/url]

skinsfaninok 11-10-2015 08:01 PM

Re: Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
I'm going with the skins at home vs a very shaky saints team and a bad defense. Although brees could beat us because he's great I just think we can run the ball on them and control the clock.

Skins 29
Saints 27

Saints go for 2 at the end to tie but come up short.

punch it in 11-10-2015 09:28 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1128217]

Skins 29
Saints 27

Saints go for 2 at the end to tie but come up short.[/QUOTE]


Damn Okie. A code red game with a finish like that? My heart cant handle it. How about we go up comfortably by three scores early in the fourth and never look back?

skinsfaninok 11-10-2015 09:32 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1128219]Damn Okie. A code red game with a finish like that? My heart cant handle it. How about we go up comfortably by three scores early in the fourth and never look back?[/quote]

When is the last time we had a game where we had a 3 score lead? It'd be nice

punch it in 11-10-2015 09:33 PM

Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1128220]When is the last time we had a game where we had a 3 score lead? It'd be nice[/QUOTE]


Jacksonville week 2 of 2013???
Edit : 14. It is a rarity thats for sure.

punch it in 11-10-2015 10:10 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1128211]The demise of the running game in general is baffling, but it's mostly due to the OL.[/QUOTE]


Yeah remember the Rams game. We had a two headed monster. Almost three with CT. Once we lost Lavao (spelling) it all fell apart.

REDSKINS4ever 11-10-2015 10:18 PM

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Cousins tosses two INTs and two TDs....Alfred Morris rushes for over 100 yards...Jordan Reed has over 100 yards receiving... The defense creates two turnovers and sack Brees four times....Hopkins nails a 44 yard FG with 00:10 left to win it.

Hog1 11-10-2015 10:18 PM

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.......ok

30gut 11-11-2015 11:20 AM

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I caught Cooley's take on the running game struggles.
He said it's a little bit of everything... sometimes it's the RBs, sometimes it's the TEs failing on the edges, sometimes it's the OL and sometimes it's the WRs.

On the whole the quality of the personnel isn't that different from when the running game was good. Yeah we lost Lauvao but his replacement isn't a huge drop off. We lost Kory but we're upgraded at RG and RT and LeRib isn't terrible.

I think the main issues with the running game are coaching/game plan issues.

Predictable run tendencies, especially on 1st down. Lack of creativity and commitment overall.

HailGreen28 11-11-2015 11:26 AM

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Why did our OL deteriorate so fast?

Chico23231 11-11-2015 11:28 AM

Re: Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
[quote=30gut;1128251]I caught Cooley's take on the running game struggles.
He said it's a little bit of everything... sometimes it's the RBs, sometimes it's the TEs failing on the edges, sometimes it's the OL and sometimes it's the WRs.

On the whole the quality of the personnel isn't that different from when the running game was good. Yeah we lost Lauvao but his replacement isn't a huge drop off. We lost Kory but we're upgraded at RG and RT and LeRib isn't terrible.

I think the main issues with the running game are coaching/game plan issues.

Predictable run tendencies, especially on 1st down. Lack of creativity and commitment overall.[/quote]

I agree 100%. The Oline seems better in overall talent and coaching. Not having a legit blocking TE has freakin hurt. Alfmo is proven, Matt Jones is a solid second option. But the game plan, commitment isn't there.

calia 11-11-2015 12:35 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1128253]I agree 100%. The Oline seems better in overall talent and coaching. Not having a legit blocking TE has freakin hurt. Alfmo is proven, Matt Jones is a solid second option. But the game plan, commitment isn't there.[/quote]

With the obvious run blocking issues we are having, I cannot understand why we're not using DYoung more. I think he had something like 2 snaps last week. He's our best blocker outside of the O line. Anyone know why?

kct1975 11-11-2015 01:34 PM

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[QUOTE=calia;1128262]With the obvious run blocking issues we are having, I cannot understand why we're not using DYoung more. I think he had something like 2 snaps last week. He's our best blocker outside of the O line. Anyone know why?[/QUOTE]
Listening to Sports Talk 980 yesterday, I heard Rick 'Doc' Walker ask the same thing. And I completely agree with both you and him.

Why aren't the Redskins using D Young?

skinsfan69 11-11-2015 02:09 PM

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I don't think Gruden likes to use a fullback. DY has been MIA.

over the mountain 11-11-2015 02:14 PM

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[quote=calia;1128262]With the obvious run blocking issues we are having, I cannot understand why we're not using DYoung more. I think he had something like 2 snaps last week. He's our best blocker outside of the O line. Anyone know why?[/quote]

Cooley said Callahan doesnt like running out of the I or strong formation = no FB except on 3rd and 1 plays. That he prefers using TE in blocking schemes ..... the coaching staff needs to adjust run approach available personnel.

We have no blocking TEs but have a stud FB sitting on the bench .... this lack of adjustment is frustrating.

skinsfan69 11-11-2015 05:32 PM

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So apparently they just signed a guy off the street to play center Sunday. How can this guy know our playbook in just a few days? LeRib must really suck.

MTK 11-11-2015 06:30 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1128286]So apparently they just signed a guy off the street to play center Sunday. How can this guy know our playbook in just a few days? LeRib must really suck.[/QUOTE]


Who said he's starting??

This guy was signed for depth because Kory L. went on IR.

LeRibeus is still the starter.

DynamiteRave 11-11-2015 07:45 PM

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I think LeRib has been doing surprisingly well. Not great but not awful.

jamf 11-11-2015 07:53 PM

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ESPN980 was saying LeRib was horrible and can't snap in a shotgun set.
They expect the new guy to start if he can get the playbook in time.

DynamiteRave 11-11-2015 08:02 PM

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[quote=jamf;1128301]ESPN980 was saying LeRib was horrible and can't snap in a shotgun set.
They expect the new guy to start if he can get the playbook in time.[/quote]

I saw he was having trouble the past few games with snapping too high. Didn't think he was bad at blocking though.

SmootSmack 11-11-2015 11:06 PM

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They were very interested in De la Puente before last season, so he's been on their radar for a while it seems

skinsfan69 11-12-2015 10:00 AM

Re: Code Red all HANDS on deck Skins vs Saints prediction thread
 
[quote=Mattyk;1128292]Who said he's starting??

This guy was signed for depth because Kory L. went on IR.

LeRibeus is still the starter.[/quote]

Gruden hinted at it yesterday in his press conference.

Gruden also blamed one of the sacks on Lerib cause he messed up the snap count.

Schneed10 11-12-2015 10:13 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1128320]Gruden hinted at it yesterday in his press conference.

Gruden also blamed one of the sacks on Lerib cause he messed up the snap count.[/quote]

This is definitely a valid point - there was also that one play a few games ago where the ref called the false start on "the entire line except the center". LeRib thought the snap count was 3 but it was 2, so everyone went except him. Completely unacceptable. It's not really much different than Griffin not knowing the offense well enough to get through his reads fast enough to run the basic scheme.

Gotta get him out of there, LeRib should be on the street. He definitely would be already if Kory wasn't hurt.

Schneed10 11-12-2015 10:17 AM

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I say go ahead and get De La Puente in there immediately, as long as he knows enough of the offense to not get Kirk injured. We're not winning anything this year anyway, the sooner we get him in there and learning with Callahan and Gruden the better equipped we are next year to have a contingency plan for Steiger and potentially move forward with a valid center.

Chico23231 11-12-2015 10:30 AM

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Center is most def on the list for an upgrade in the offseason. Kory L effing stunk this year. MicRib sux. Ill go ahead and put it on the list:

WR - a couple
TE (blocking)
Center
Safety - a couple
ILB
Pass Rusher (Gallette hopefully)
QB
RB
CB


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