Racial Bias in the Media - Just how bad is it?
 

Here's a superb example:

[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57494939-504083/pat-mahaney-case-ohio-teens-attacked-45-year-old-man-because-they-were-bored-police-say/"]Pat Mahaney[/URL], ever heard of him?

[I](CBS) CINCINNATI, Ohio - Police say a pack of Ohio teens, ages 13 to 14, beat a 45-year-old man into unconscious because they were bored.[/I]
[I]Pat Mahaney was walking home from a convenience store Saturday when he was hit from behind. Although Mahaney was knocked unconscious immediately, the beating apparently continued with the teens punching and kicking the helpless man.
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[I]Police reportedly said the boys, when taken in for questioning, admitted Mahaney had done nothing wrong. They said they only stopped the attacking the North College hill resident when a neighbor threatened to call police. [/I]
[I]A police reports says the teens attacked 45-year-old man because they "were just bored and were looking for something to do," the Enquirer reports.[/I]
[I]The young teens face charges of aggravated riot and felonious assault, the Enquirer reports. They are scheduled to be in court Aug. 24. [/I]

Compared to the vilification of Zimmerman, I find the lack of media interest utterly nauseating.

Without using profanity and staying on point, who can reasonably explain this?

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I'd call it more of a liberal/corporate/big government bias than a racial bias.

When there's a slant to the national news, it seems to me to always be one of the three.

In this case, and seeing the suspects in this case are black [url=http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_central_cincinnati/college_hill/pat-mahaney-dies-victim-of-north-college-hill-bored-beating-has-died]Pat Mahaney who was attacked by 6 black teens in August of 2012 because they were bored died. So can these 6 be tried for murder now? [/url], I guess you're referring to race not being cited much as a factor here? I'd ascribe that not so much racial as liberal "for a cause", IMO. The "cause being" the racial divide the national media stirred up in the Zimmerman trial, and how groups like MSNBC want to portray it, which is kinda racial I guess.

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most neo-conservatives who present this same kind of argument think it is because the main stream media (who are controlled by communist progressives) are overly sensitive to even remotely "offending" a black person that they selective choose only stories that will appeal to the white person's guilt of our country's violent racial transgression and not offend anyone but white people.

i.e neo-conservatives saying that cheerios commercial was yet another example of main stream media forcing their progressive diversity agenda on them and that they will ban buying cheerios.

neo-conservatives also think home alarm system commercials with a white intruder is also the progressive MSM (main stream media) way of bowing to any perceived slight against black people if they made the intruder black.

or a car insurance commercial where a white person's car is damaged on the side of the road and a black insurance man comes to the rescue.

rat - go to theblaze (glenn beck's news website) and read any comment section on any article and see where the conversation quickly and ultimately goes. interesting case study for undercover racists pretending their comments are political in nature.

you will know you are on the right site when you see ads for dehydrated food for your armaggedon bunker and pictures of Obama in a china military motiffe.


but to answer your question of just how bad is it?

my answer - depends how you view the world. me personally, i see it far more on fox or other conservative outlets.

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I see advertising cited, but not news reports, or lack thereof.

No, I don't go to Fox or TheBlaze but I am interested in why I don't see much in the way of equal and opposite when it comes to violent crimes.

I do favor al Jazeera.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1015793]I see advertising cited, but not news reports, or lack thereof.

No, I don't go to Fox or TheBlaze but I am interested in why I don't see much in the way of equal and opposite when it comes to violent crimes.

I do favor al Jazeera.[/quote]Do it! Check out Fox and Msnbc. The contrast is amazing, in what they each dont talk about but the other does.

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I'd say it was pretty bad. Here, you even have Yahoo asking ..."Is this the next Trayvon Martin case?"

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/spooner-darius-simmons-shooting-trial-170359879.html]76-year-old man to stand trial in shooting death of 13-year-old boy[/url]


The two situations are nothing alike. Not even remotely close except the fact that a black kid was killed by a "white" guy.

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The media has a clear racial bias. It feeds in to stereotypes. You ought to see the crimes white men do everyday. Child porn , child porn, child porn! Never see it on the 6 oclock news though. Black boy steals candy bar, font page. Some 13 and 14 year old black kids beat up an old guy. It's unfortunate he later died. How many times have these kids called the authorities to report fake crimes by 46 year old white men. Zimmerman called 100 times no one wa severy arrested. Did he ever pause and say hmm some of these black guys may be just walking home. No he is a psycho path, he assumed they all must have got away, all 100. He foreshadowed what he did to Martin. He was carrying around a gun like he in in a dangerous area. The only person killed in his area was killed by him. Psycho. That is how the kiling of the 13 year old matches to the Zimmerman killing. False accusations of criminal activity, paranoid of black men, can't win a fair fight, shooting an unarmed teenager. The reason for packing is to kill the black male, an existential threat in a psychopath's mind.

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What a sick twisted place your mind is. Ah well, I guess hate can keep you warm.

P.S. - Stick to being monosyllabic. Big words apparently trip you up.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1015857]I'd say it was pretty bad. Here, you even have Yahoo asking ..."Is this the next Trayvon Martin case?"

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/spooner-darius-simmons-shooting-trial-170359879.html]76-year-old man to stand trial in shooting death of 13-year-old boy[/url]


The two situations are nothing alike. Not even remotely close except the fact that a black kid was killed by a "white" guy.[/quote]

... and JJ jumps on the hate crime wagon immediately. Can we not denigrate the horrific nature of the act itself by asserting that the reason we should really despise it is b/c it involves race?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016379]The media has a clear racial bias. It feeds in to stereotypes. You ought to see the crimes white men do everyday. Child porn , child porn, child porn! Never see it on the 6 oclock news though. Black boy steals candy bar, font page. Some 13 and 14 year old black kids beat up an old guy. It's unfortunate he later died. How many times have these kids called the authorities to report fake crimes by 46 year old white men. Zimmerman called 100 times no one wa severy arrested. Did he ever pause and say hmm some of these black guys may be just walking home. No he is a psycho path, he assumed they all must have got away, all 100. He foreshadowed what he did to Martin. He was carrying around a gun like he in in a dangerous area. The only person killed in his area was killed by him. Psycho. That is how the kiling of the 13 year old matches to the Zimmerman killing. False accusations of criminal activity, paranoid of black men, can't win a fair fight, shooting an unarmed teenager. The reason for packing is to kill the black male, an existential threat in a psychopath's mind.[/quote]


wow , so in your mind Trayvon Martin did not contribute to the situation that lead to his own death , in anyway , not asking about Zimmerman but Martin ?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016379]The media has a clear racial bias. It feeds in to stereotypes. You ought to see the crimes white men do everyday. Child porn , child porn, child porn! Never see it on the 6 oclock news though. Black boy steals candy bar, font page. Some 13 and 14 year old black kids beat up an old guy. It's unfortunate he later died. How many times have these kids called the authorities to report fake crimes by 46 year old white men. Zimmerman called 100 times no one wa severy arrested. Did he ever pause and say hmm some of these black guys may be just walking home. No he is a psycho path, he assumed they all must have got away, all 100. He foreshadowed what he did to Martin. He was carrying around a gun like he in in a dangerous area. The only person killed in his area was killed by him. Psycho. That is how the kiling of the 13 year old matches to the Zimmerman killing. False accusations of criminal activity, paranoid of black men, can't win a fair fight, shooting an unarmed teenager. The reason for packing is to kill the black male, an existential threat in a psychopath's mind.[/quote]

If your going to make a stupid post at least get your facts correct. Zimmerman call the police 46 times over 8 yrs. That's less then 6 times a year as a neighbor hood watch guy.

Have you ever look at the crime rate in that area.

"With a crime rate of 69 per one thousand residents, Sanford has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 14. Within Florida, more than 94% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Sanford."

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[quote=firstdown;1016423]If your going to make a stupid post at least get your facts correct. Zimmerman call the police 46 times over 8 yrs. That's less then 6 times a year as a neighbor hood watch guy.

Have you ever look at the crime rate in that area.

"With a crime rate of 69 per one thousand residents, Sanford has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 14. Within Florida, more than 94% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Sanford."[/quote]

Wow look at FD bringing facts and statistics into an emotional argument.

(Borat voice): mmmm, very nice!

I think the way some politically aligned media reports the news do so in a manner that will bring them the most attention. It's unfortunate but a fact of life in today's society. And that's a big reason why I don't tend to pay too much attention to them, I mean I get my news from MSNBC but I don't really tend to listen to their opinion pieces, if it's anything big there's usually some angle they don't cover for a specific reason. If you are to form a reasonable opinion on a big story you really have to do your own homework these days to come to your own conclusions.

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[quote=mooby;1016426]If you are to form a reasonable opinion on a big story you really have to do your own homework these days to come to your own conclusions.[/quote]

Sadly, very few people are willing to make an effort.

I did notice that yesterday's '[I]Welcome to the NFL, Rookie[/I]' on NFL Channel painted Luck in a far more positive light than RGIII AND he got 37 seconds more air time. Even the lighting on the interview shots were darker and more menacing.

[COLOR=White]/sarc[/COLOR]

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[quote=RedskinRat;1016430]Sadly, very few people are willing to make an effort.

I did notice that yesterday's '[I]Welcome to the NFL, Rookie[/I]' on NFL Channel painted Luck in a far more positive light than RGIII AND he got 37 seconds more air time. Even the lighting on the interview shots were darker and more menacing.

[COLOR=white]/sarc[/COLOR][/quote]

Because they gave RGIII so much air time last year they are trying to cover their liberal bias by talking up the Luck this year.

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[quote=Giantone;1016399]wow , so in your mind Trayvon Martin did not contribute to the situation that lead to his own death , in anyway , not asking about Zimmerman but Martin ?[/quote]

Trayvon contributed to his own death by accidentally going to the store while George was prowling with his gun. Coming home from the store is contributing to your own death?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016552]Trayvon contributed to his own death by accidentally going to the store while George was prowling with his gun. Coming home from the store is contributing to your own death?[/quote]

Now your catching on.

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[quote=firstdown;1016423]If your going to make a stupid post at least get your facts correct. Zimmerman call the police 46 times over 8 yrs. That's less then 6 times a year as a neighbor hood watch guy.

Have you ever look at the crime rate in that area.

"With a crime rate of 69 per one thousand residents, Sanford has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 14. Within Florida, more than 94% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Sanford."[/quote]

Since you are giving facts answer me this. Why leave out the sex cime statistics? Martin's reaction to getting followed was warranted. See, your little property crimes are not reason to kill people. Compared to the fear of becoming a victim to sexual battery. Fear of sexual battery is a real reason to react with violence. Those crime statistc maps leave out the sex crimes, they say to protect the victims. In actuality, all this does is leave out the white male dominated crimes and helps people like First Down paint a self righteous picture using half baked facts.

Note: [COLOR="Red"]Higher values mean more residents per sex offender higher number is better as far as less sex sex crimes per resident[/COLOR])
Seminole County: 1,213
[COLOR="Red"]Zip code 32773 (Sanford area): 676 [/COLOR]
Florida: 673


States with highest rate of sex offenders Rate / 100,000
Delaware 517
Oregon 473
Vermont 468
Michigan 403
Arkansas 396
Wisconsin 391
Minnesota 316
Florida 311

States with lowest rate of sex offenders Rate / 100,000
Pennsylvania 94
Maryland 136
New Mexico 140
Rhode Island 146
North Carolina 149
Connecticut 152
Washington D.C. 160
New Jersey 164

According to crime statistics, Martin had reason to fear Zimmerman following him and had reason to fear becoming a victim of a sexual crime. He was not looking for trouble, but he found because he was black and Zimmerman assumed he was a threat, and he defended himself with his fists. Zimmerman went looking for trouble with a gun. Martin assumed Zimmerman was a threat because of his actions, following him in a high sex crime area.

[COLOR="Red"]Notice in the highest sex crime areas: Arkansas, Vermont, Oregon not areas with high concentrations of black males.

versus

Notice in the lowest sex crime areas: Pennsylvania, Maryland, North Carolina are areas with high concentrations of black males.
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This story goes untold by the media, black males are criminalized but white males are not. Look at the sex crime stats. Point being, I can cherry pick facts to paint whatever narrative I want. If I want to criminalize blackmales I use car break-ins stats. If I want to criminalize white males I use child molestation statistics. Damn over 700,000 sex crimes committed in Oregon in a years time. WOW!!!

What about the highly publicized mass murders like in Newtown, Colorado etc. White males did these crimes not black males. The media did not make that up. You can not blame the media for that. First Down must want the media to harp on car break-ins. Common sense says of course the media is going to report the murder of innocent children over car break-in stats.

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Each year, low-life scumbags abduct about 58,000 unrelated children, primarily for sexual purposes, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Nearly half of these children are sexually assaulted.
90% are by white males

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016578]Each year, low-life scumbags abduct about 58,000 unrelated children, primarily for sexual purposes, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Nearly half of these children are sexually assaulted.
90% are by white males[/quote]

The data quoted at the Missing Kids site makes mention of 58,000 but doesn't say why they were abducted, just that it was a non-family member.

You're reading a lot into this, aren't you?

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[quote=RedskinRat;1016589]The data quoted at the Missing Kids site makes mention of 58,000 but doesn't say why they were abducted, just that it was a non-family member.

You're reading a lot into this, aren't you?[/quote]

Exactly the point, about this news media bias thread. It exists, this type slanting is done on a daily basis versus black males. For instance, First Down citing so-called crime stas as reason enough for Zimmerman to kill Martin. These stats are facts but they are presented in a bias fashion in order to criminalize black males "aka the enemy", or slant the news. Thanks Rat you made my point. Media bias exists. Frist Down stas are padded with car break-ins and petty theft.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016606]Exactly the point, about this news media bias thread. [/quote]

You're a member of the media?

[quote=Gary84Clark;1016606]It exists, this type slanting is done on a daily basis versus black males. For instance, First Down citing so-called crime stas as reason enough for Zimmerman to kill Martin. These stats are facts but they are presented in a bias fashion in order to criminalize black males "aka the enemy", or slant the news.[/quote]

All the break-ins that were witnessed or solved (according to the local cops) were committed by young black males. Should we ignore that uncomfortable fact?

[quote=Gary84Clark;1016606]Thanks Rat you made my point. Media bias exists. Frist Down stas are padded with car break-ins and petty theft.[/quote]

So if you're a pudgy, cowardly man and know you are ineffective physically how would you lawfully protect yourself?

Once you are challenged you use what you perceive as your equalizer to a younger, fitter, more violent threat.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1016607]You're a member of the media?



All the break-ins that were witnessed or solved (according to the local cops) were committed by young black males. Should we ignore that uncomfortable fact?



So if you're a pudgy, cowardly man and know you are ineffective physically how would you lawfully protect yourself?

Once you are challenged you use what you perceive as your equalizer to a younger, fitter, more violent threat.[/quote]


Rat you're not addressing the white male sexual assault stats that prove Trayvon was right to suspect Zimmerman was attacking him? Your bias is hanging out.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016552]Trayvon contributed to his own death by accidentally going to the store while George was prowling with his gun. Coming home from the store is contributing to your own death?[/quote]

In that little world that you live in what do normal people do when they know that someone is following them ,I ask because in the real world you would scream for help or run to a neighbor ..or ...hell even run away but no , the "teenager went and confronted a total stranger"...tell me how smart that was !

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016578]Each year, low-life scumbags abduct about 58,000 unrelated children, primarily for sexual purposes, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Nearly half of these children are sexually assaulted.
90% are by white males[/quote]


You are ignorant of what you speak .

[QUOTE=Giantone;1016646]You are ignorant of what you speak .[/QUOTE]

That's just pretty much how G84C rolls.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1016650]That's just pretty much how G84C rolls.[/quote]



Sorry, you're right .I'm still getting use to it.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016634]Rat you're not addressing the white male sexual assault stats that prove Trayvon was right to suspect Zimmerman was attacking him? Your bias is hanging out.[/quote]Ummm, this shouldn't be about race. ANY child molestation / teen rape is bad. That being said, your attempt to use ethnic stats to justify Trayvon Martin attacking George Zimmerman is faulty on two points:

1. Gary84, you said "90% are by white males". Didn't see predator ethnicities on the missingkids site, but based on childmolestationprevention.org, [URL="http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf"]your numbers are off.[/URL]They do have whites as 79% of offenders, but claim whites were overrepresented.

Demographic of US total: White alone, percent, 2012 (a) 77.9%. White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2012 63.0%. So about 70% depending on whether you count "white hispanics" like Zimmerman.

The point is, while whites are more likely to commit child molestation than others, it's nowhere near enough to be statistically significant like you claimed. Read the survey, and you'll find that if you're saying Trayvon Martin had special reason to fear a white man would sexually assault him (more than all other ethnicities), then neither he nor you understand statistics. (hint, factor offenders vs. pop. The variance is smaller than you think.)

2. What sexual predator calls 911, and has the cops on the way, right before he tries sexually assaulting someone? The answer, I would think, is none. Kinda like a robber at a bank calling the cops right before he tries robbing it. If Zimmerman did anything wrong, sexual assault wasn't it. Which brings up one point: The prosecution absolutely hammered Zimmerman for making an incorrect assumption about Martin. That Martin had actually gone to the store and back, and wasn't just wandering aimlessly casing homes.[U] If we are to believe you, Gary84, then Martin also made a false assumption about Zimmerman and acted on it. [/U] That Zimmerman was going to sexually assault him, when he apparently wasn't after calling the police first.

Nevermind that there's no evidence that Zimmerman tried molesting Martin, while there is evidence Martin was beating up Zimmerman.

In short, Gary84, you aren't helping Trayon Martin's case any. Rather, you're like the Rachel Jeantel of this thread.

PS. After googling this stuff, there should be no opposition to the death penalty for child molesters. According to studies, child molesters aren't any particular demographic other than males. Income, race, social standing doesn't matter. They're just plain evil.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1016655]Ummm, this shouldn't be about race. ANY child molestation / teen rape is bad. That being said, your attempt to use ethnic stats to justify Trayvon Martin attacking George Zimmerman is faulty on two points:

1. Gary84, you said "90% are by white males". Didn't see predator ethnicities on the missingkids site, but based on childmolestationprevention.org, [URL="http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pdfs/study.pdf"]your numbers are off.[/URL]They do have whites as 79% of offenders, but claim whites were overrepresented.

Demographic of US total: White alone, percent, 2012 (a) 77.9%. White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2012 63.0%. So about 70% depending on whether you count "white hispanics" like Zimmerman.

The point is, while whites are more likely to commit child molestation than others, it's nowhere near enough to be statistically significant like you claimed. Read the survey, and you'll find that if you're saying Trayvon Martin had special reason to fear a white man would sexually assault him (more than all other ethnicities), then neither he nor you understand statistics. (hint, factor offenders vs. pop. The variance is smaller than you think.)

2. What sexual predator calls 911, and has the cops on the way, right before he tries sexually assaulting someone? The answer, I would think, is none. Kinda like a robber at a bank calling the cops right before he tries robbing it. If Zimmerman did anything wrong, sexual assault wasn't it. Which brings up one point: The prosecution absolutely hammered Zimmerman for making an incorrect assumption about Martin. That Martin had actually gone to the store and back, and wasn't just wandering aimlessly casing homes.[U] If we are to believe you, Gary84, then Martin also made a false assumption about Zimmerman and acted on it. [/U] That Zimmerman was going to sexually assault him, when he apparently wasn't after calling the police first.

Nevermind that there's no evidence that Zimmerman tried molesting Martin, while there is evidence Martin was beating up Zimmerman.

In short, Gary84, you aren't helping Trayon Martin's case any. Rather, you're like the Rachel Jeantel of this thread.

PS. After googling this stuff, there should be no opposition to the death penalty for child molesters. According to studies, child molesters aren't any particular demographic other than males. Income, race, social standing doesn't matter. They're just plain evil.[/quote]

The topic is media bias. It's okay to use stats to criminalize Trayvon but ther are equal stats taht could criminalize Zimmerman. Media Bias. Ignorant about sexual offenses? prove it? she lie fan!

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I'm done, the point is there is a media bias. It is silly to try to use cirme stats to criminalize black males, white males, or whomever. It's just dumb.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016668]I'm done, the point is there is a media bias. [B]It is silly to try to use cirme stats to criminalize black males, white males, or whomever.[/B] It's just dumb.[/quote]

I'm going to regret this, but....what??

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1016668]I'm done, the point is there is a media bias. [B]It is silly to try to use cirme stats to criminalize black males, white males, or whomever.[/B] It's just dumb.[/quote][IMG]http://static.onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/SNL-Celebrity-Jeopardy-Alex-Trebek.jpg[/IMG]
The correct answer was "stereotype", Mr. Gary84Clark. "Stereotype".

That brings you down to -1600 points. And Smootsmack has control of the board.

(Just playing, Gary84Clark. No hard feelings. You have a point about stereotyping. You really ought to re-examine a lot of other stuff you've said about the Zimmerman trial and how people should act.)