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bigdaddy2348 10-14-2011 06:02 AM

Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
So I guess Redskins wasn't so dumb for letting him go. Denver wants to unload him already. One year wonder.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7099051/denver-broncos-exploring-trade-offers-brandon-lloyd-according-report]Denver Broncos exploring trade offers for Brandon Lloyd, according to report - ESPN[/url]

skinsfaninok 10-14-2011 06:09 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
I think it's more of Denver wanting to add picks

CrustyRedskin 10-14-2011 07:44 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Never really carred for him but this was one helluva catch sunday.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-TXGdbXsI]Brandon Lloyd amazing catch - YouTube[/url]

htownskinfan 10-14-2011 08:08 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
He sucked for us but hes definitely put it together in denver,this surprises me.I have not heard of any problems with him,sees like denvers giving up

Longtimefan 10-14-2011 08:22 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Short term success is often overvalued. The proof is still in the pudding.

freddyg12 10-14-2011 08:32 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
thankfully this dude is just not Skins material in this new & improved regime. Gibbs was right about his talent, but nothing else. From what JLC used to write, people that worked at Redskins park didn't like him from teamates on down.

NC_Skins 10-14-2011 08:49 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[IMG]http://images.fungopher.com/C/q/A/CqACBETWb/Don-t-Even-Think-About-it.jpg[/IMG]

mredskins 10-14-2011 09:10 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=freddyg12;846747]thankfully this dude is just not Skins material in this new & improved regime. Gibbs was right about his talent, but nothing else. From what JLC used to write, people that worked at Redskins park didn't like him from teamates on down.[/quote]


He was ass when he sucked and now he has had some success I am sure he is a bigger ass now. No thanks! I doubt he ever come back anyways.

skinsfan69 10-14-2011 09:17 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Whenever you see him being interviewed he seems like a good dude.

53Fan 10-14-2011 09:41 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=skinsfan69;846775]Whenever you see him being interviewed he seems like a good dude.[/quote]

So did Haynesworth. I didn't want us to sign him, but after we did and saw his interviews, I bought into it. Ted Bundy probably interviewed well too.

RedskinsInNYC 10-14-2011 11:05 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Agree with everyone on this. Love the attempted (though still misguided) Twitter back-pedal by Dan Graziano of the ESPN NFC East Blog on this.

Side note: Who do you think is the best Skins beat reporter? Mike Jones of the WP is no JLC.

MTK 10-14-2011 11:06 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846799]Agree with everyone on this. Love the attempted (though still misguided) Twitter back-pedal by Dan Graziano of the ESPN NFC East Blog on this.

Side note: Who do you think is the best Skins beat reporter? Mike Jones of the WP is no JLC.[/quote]

By a mile it's John Keim of the Washington Examiner.

I barely read the Post anymore.

MTK 10-14-2011 11:08 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=53Fan;846779]So did Haynesworth. I didn't want us to sign him, but after we did and saw his interviews, I bought into it. Ted Bundy probably interviewed well too.[/quote]

Yup, actions speaker louder than words.

A lot of these guys know what to say when the camera is rolling. BL was a giant turd back in the day when he was here. Not sure if he's changed much and I really don't care anyway.

SmootSmack 10-14-2011 11:20 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846799]Agree with everyone on this. Love the attempted (though still misguided) Twitter back-pedal by Dan Graziano of the ESPN NFC East Blog on this.

Side note: Who do you think is the best Skins beat reporter? Mike Jones of the WP is no JLC.[/quote]

What did Graziano say? Haven't been paying attention

Keim is great, absolutely great. But I put Rich Campbell of the Washington Times right up there with him

Rich Tandler and Dave Elfin are solid but Keim and Campbell are probably the best

RedskinsInNYC 10-14-2011 11:49 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=SmootSmack;846805]What did Graziano say? Haven't been paying attention

Keim is great, absolutely great. But I put Rich Campbell of the Washington Times right up there with him

Rich Tandler and Dave Elfin are solid but Keim and Campbell are probably the best[/quote]

Agree on Rich Campbell.

Tweet 1: Redskins r only potential fit I see. RT @paul_m_cox1: @espn_nfceast do you see any of the nfc east teams making a move for brandon lloyd?

Tweet 2 (6 minutes later): Wow. For the record, no, I do not think the Redskins will pursue Brandon Lloyd. But of NFCE teams, that's the only one where he'd fit. OK?

MTK 10-14-2011 11:50 AM

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Pretty easy to be misunderstood on Twitter.

SmootSmack 10-14-2011 12:00 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Knowing Mr. Graziano, as limited as I do, I'm certain that was not a back-pedal

Monkeydad 10-14-2011 12:10 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;846740]I think it's more of Denver wanting to add picks[/quote]

Sounds like they want to add the #1 pick.

bigdaddy2348 10-14-2011 12:29 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=Monkeydad;846813]Sounds like they want to add the #1 pick.[/quote]
reports are that the Broncos are trying to get either a 3rd, 4th or 5th pick for this bum.

IrMitchell 10-14-2011 12:35 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Here's how I view our receiving..

We currently have Santana who needs to be on the field every game, without question.
Gaffney is currently playing like a #2 making clutch receptions and most importantly, he's got history with Rex.

Bringing in Lloyd as a #1 and pushing Moss and Gaffney back would clearly help, but let's not forget we have this guy named Anthony Armstrong who is one year removed from a 900 year season (give or take) that is recovering from injury and got off to a slow start with Rex.. I fully expect AA to mesh in as the third threat soon.

Is it worth the 3rd or 4th for Lloyd? Because the truth is our defense is going to allow this team to win and adding another 1000 yard receiver, isn't going to do much when we currently have three legitimate options who are already being held back due to a bad quarterback (Rex).

And I mean, clearly the name Brandon Lloyd isn't the favorite for the Washington Redskins for obvious reasons.

budw38 10-14-2011 12:38 PM

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[quote=53Fan;846779]So did Haynesworth. I didn't want us to sign him, but after we did and saw his interviews, I bought into it. Ted Bundy probably interviewed well too.[/quote]
AHHHHH HA HA , nice ..... Im LMAO !!!

SirClintonPortis 10-14-2011 12:47 PM

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[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846809]Agree on Rich Campbell.

Tweet 1: Redskins r only potential fit I see. RT @paul_m_cox1: @espn_nfceast do you see any of the nfc east teams making a move for brandon lloyd?

Tweet 2 (6 minutes later): Wow. For the record, no, I do not think the Redskins will pursue Brandon Lloyd. But of NFCE teams, that's the only one where he'd fit. OK?[/quote]

Hopeless in the nuances English language like fair chunk of people, you failed to comprehend that being a "fit" for anything does not necessarily mean you are going to be pursued and obtained for use. There is no backpedaling, only your failure to comprehend the nuance. I'm sure a BMW or Mercedes would "fit" alot of people, but they sure as hell ain't gonna buy one barring lottery wins or the like.

Lloyd is a #1. However, New York has Cruz and Nicks, Philly has Maclin and Jackson, and Dallas has Austin and Bryant. There is no way Lloyd is going to crack those pairings. We have Moss and Gaffney. Gaff is a good possession receiver but can be bumped down. Moss is not the elite deep threat anymore. Lloyd would be the #1 here, so indeed, he is a fit here.

firstdown 10-14-2011 01:34 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=bigdaddy2348;846739]So I guess Redskins wasn't so dumb for letting him go. Denver wants to unload him already. One year wonder.

[URL="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7099051/denver-broncos-exploring-trade-offers-brandon-lloyd-according-report"]Denver Broncos exploring trade offers for Brandon Lloyd, according to report - ESPN[/URL][/quote]

He is their leading WR and I think on a better team he might have better numbers. Not sure what he is like as a person that may have something to do with the trade but as far a talent I don't think he is one hit wonder.

CrazyCanuck 10-14-2011 01:40 PM

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A]Bush "Fool Me Once..." - YouTube[/ame]

RedskinsInNYC 10-14-2011 01:49 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=SirClintonPortis;846824]Hopeless in the nuances English language like fair chunk of people, you failed to comprehend that being a "fit" for anything does not necessarily mean you are going to be pursued and obtained for use. There is no backpedaling, only your failure to comprehend the nuance. I'm sure a BMW or Mercedes would "fit" alot of people, but they sure as hell ain't gonna buy one barring lottery wins or the like. [/quote]

Doesn't the concept of "fit" take into account, I don't know, your history with the organization? How can you "fit" with an organization that got rid of you after being an abject failure and embarassment for several years? How many TD passes did he catch as a Redskin again?

Lotus 10-14-2011 02:33 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846836]Doesn't the concept of "fit" take into account, I don't know, your history with the organization? How can you "fit" with an organization that got rid of you after being an abject failure and embarassment for several years? [B]How many TD passes did he catch as a Redskin again?[/B][/quote]

As a Redskin Lloyd dominated the bench. He took the gatorade cooler to the house all the time.

NC_Skins 10-14-2011 02:49 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
There is no ****ing way the fan base would take to trading picks for this guy again. No way, no ****ing how. Imagine the back lash if you traded for the same guy twice and both times he flopped. Not just no, but..... HEEELLLL MOTHER ****ING NO.


It's not a good fit, and never will be. Some other team needs to make that gamble, we still have scars from being burnt with him before.

Nomad 10-14-2011 04:27 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
for one year under Shanny......... yea, he wasnt a bad guy.......... he said something that Joe didnt like and he was vilfied........ He has bounced back....... lets not talk about Redskins bust..........

RedskinsInNYC 10-14-2011 05:03 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=Nomad;846865]for one year under Shanny......... yea, he wasnt a bad guy.......... he said something that Joe didnt like and he was vilfied........ He has bounced back....... lets not talk about Redskins bust..........[/quote]

When did Lloyd play for Shanahan? MS was fired by Denver on December 30, 2008; Lloyd was signed June 15, 2009. Wikipedia don't fail me now...

diehard 10-14-2011 05:12 PM

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I wasn't surprised when I learned of this.When he stared 'saying all the right things' during the off-season (about working with Tebow), it just felt like an omen.

Nomad 10-14-2011 05:24 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846874]When did Lloyd play for Shanahan? MS was fired by Denver on December 30, 2008; Lloyd was signed June 15, 2009. Wikipedia don't fail me now...[/quote]

He didnt, I said he be good, just to use for one year under Shanny, and he probably not as bad of a guy as you guys think........ He could come in and play right next to Moss........ which would give us legit WR......

SirClintonPortis 10-14-2011 06:26 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=RedskinsInNYC;846836]Doesn't the concept of "fit" take into account, I don't know, your history with the organization? How can you "fit" with an organization that got rid of you after being an abject failure and embarassment for several years? How many TD passes did he catch as a Redskin again?[/quote]
He was likely making his statement based mainly or solely on what Lloyd brings to the field currently. We certainly could use what Lloyd does bring to the table [I]currently[/I], that's why he'd "fit" here. Too bad he blew it when he had the chance and then he burnt his bridges with us.

The only thing Graziano is at fault for is hinting something he did not intend, which he rectified.

DCtoAZ 10-14-2011 09:59 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
sorry if i'm stupid but what happened to Hank 85 ?

SmootSmack 10-14-2011 10:35 PM

I read a good article on Hank85 today but I can't remember where. Think it was the Washington Times

tryfuhl 10-14-2011 11:30 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
[quote=SmootSmack;846903]I read a good article on Hank85 today but I can't remember where. Think it was the Washington Times[/quote]

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/13/redskins-leonard-hankerson-has-time-on-his-hands/]Redskins' Leonard Hankerson has time on his hands - Washington Times[/url]

tryfuhl 10-14-2011 11:34 PM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
And a tidbit including a quote from KS

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/redskins-talk/post/Kyle-says-Hank-is-getting-better?blockID=577498&feedID=10316]Kyle says Hank is getting better[/url]

Bucket 10-15-2011 09:07 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
I could see Austin replacing Moss in a few years, and Hank taking over for Gaffney?

#56fanatic 10-16-2011 07:48 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
This is not an issue of Brandon not good enough for John Fox. This is John Fox evaluating the roster over the offseason and first 5 or 6 weeks and realizing Brandon may be a mid round pick to help build the team in his image. Lloyd has been playing pretty damn good the last couple of years. He also seems to have dropped the pre-madonna attitude and realized he was wasting a god given talent of catching the football. Shame he didn't realize that while he was with us.

Fox wants picks, picks and more picks. This team is not in the image of a John Fox team. Not on either side of the ball. He wants big strong physical offensive and defensive lineman.

Ruhskins 10-16-2011 11:28 AM

re: Update: Lloyd Reportedly Traded to Rams
 
Eddie Royal apparently is on the trade block as well (last year of contract).

SmootSmack 10-16-2011 11:40 AM

[QUOTE=#56fanatic;847017]This is not an issue of Brandon not good enough for John Fox. This is John Fox evaluating the roster over the offseason and first 5 or 6 weeks and realizing Brandon may be a mid round pick to help build the team in his image. Lloyd has been playing pretty damn good the last couple of years. He also seems to have dropped the pre-madonna attitude and realized he was wasting a god given talent of catching the football. Shame he didn't realize that while he was with us.

Fox wants picks, picks and more picks. This team is not in the image of a John Fox team. Not on either side of the ball. He wants big strong physical offensive and defensive lineman.[/QUOTE]

Preach


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