Willie Parker Trashes Redskins Lockeroom
 

Willie Parker is either slighted by the skins who cut him or has some truth in what he is saying.
"Being in Washington, they don’t care about football. I didn’t feel good from day one there. They weren’t about football. They were about partying"

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/04/willie-parker-on-the-redskins-they-dont-care-about-football/]Willie Parker on the Redskins: “They don’t care about football” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I know Shanahan is on a quest to change the culture in Ashburn, but will he be successful? If you live in the DC area you know about the great club scene and nightlife where often times you will see a local athlete.
What does the Warpath think? Are our players all about life after the field and not about what happens on it? Please discuss.

I think there is some truth to this and that is why I am reluctant for us to resign a guy like Moss because he represent the old culture.

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Yeah I saw this. Seems a little like sour grapes to me. Shanahan is attempting to change a culture, and I think in large part the guys are buying in. Sure Brandon Banks got stabbed in a nightclub at 2am, but apart from that, it's not like we have players getting in trouble by any means.

I'd like to know who he's referring to, and I'd also like to hear some of our current players react to these comments.

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Pretty sure Fletch would have something to say about this. I mean, didn't we just have 30 or so players assemble for their own mini-camp on their own dime just for the sake of improving as a team? Doesn't sound like a group of guys who don't care about football.

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Unless I am missing out but DC nightlife on the weekends is dead, the city is a ghost town especially in the summer time!

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Here is a link to his actual interview:

[url=http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/05/04/willie-parker-discusses-difference-between-steelers-redskins/]Willie Parker Discusses Difference Between Steelers, Redskins « CBS Pittsburgh[/url]

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[quote=GMScud;801071]Yeah I saw this. Seems a little like sour grapes to me. Shanahan is attempting to change a culture, and I think in large part the guys are buying in. Sure Brandon Banks got stabbed in a nightclub at 2am, but apart from that, [COLOR="Red"]it's not like we have players getting in trouble by any means.[/COLOR]

I'd like to know who he's referring to, and I'd also like to hear some of our current players react to these comments.[/quote]

*cough* Albert Haynseworth *cough*

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He even went as far as to say something about fan attendance which was weird.

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I think the ability of our players had a lot more to do with our failures last year than their "partying".

Case in point: we brought in Willie Parker last year.

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I know Lavar and Dukes just got some serious chubby's.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;801087]*cough* Albert Haynseworth *cough*[/quote]

Well sure, but Shanahan had no tolerance for his BS, and he wasn't part of the new regime. MS and BA had nothing to do with bringing that load of crap to town.

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Until we actually start winning, the Redskins will always get trashed. I mean look at last season with a "New Regime" and it was still a ****ing Circus.

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This is only a headline because the Redskins cut him before he ever got a regular season carry. Comparing Pitsburgh to DC in like comparing Apples and Oranges. Randle El was here much longer than Willie thought about, went back to Pittsburgh and never heard a word from him anywhere similar to what Parker is talking about. Such a non-issue. Get a job Parker and do something then talk smack.

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[quote=GMScud;801099]Well sure, but Shanahan had no tolerance for his BS, and he wasn't part of the new regime. MS and BA had nothing to do with bringing that load of crap to town.[/quote]

Yeah but they did start the whole DM fiasco

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Well, the Skins do party - a lot. But I don't think they're any different than other NFL teams in other cities.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;801105]Yeah but they did start the whole DM fiasco[/quote]

What does that have to do with caring about football or partying?

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[quote=GMScud;801108]What does that have to do with caring about football or partying?[/quote]

Oh nothing I'm just saying as far as our new regime goes LOL.

As for WP he's just sour because he got cut for Williams and ATV

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Yeah the Steelers are such a GREAT Organization..

They have a Rapist and a Bin Laden apologist.. Thats the team I want to root for..

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[quote=mredskins;801075]Unless I am missing out but DC nightlife on the weekends is dead, the city is a ghost town especially in the summer time![/quote]

you're totally missing out lol

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IN THE PAST, the Redskins have had a reputation around the league as a "warm and fuzzy" team. Their training camp was a "country club" when compared to some of the "boot camps" that other teams staged. The coaches did not crack the whip often and when they did it was not very painful.

SOME of the Skins players from previous rosters were well known as "social animals" in the wee hours of many weeknights. If a reporter wanted to write an article on which DC athletes were out and about at night, it would NOT be difficult for him to find a half-dozen night spots in the DC area where he could observe who was out and with whom on which evening. That is the fodder of gossip columns and luckily for some past Redskins - - and Wizzards - - gossip columns in DC are only considered important if they involve politicians. It is a fact that every team has "social animals" on it; the Skins had their share...

Only when Marty Schottenheimer was here really cracking the whip did the Skins team come close to resembling the focus of the "Lombardi Packers" - - who by the way had more than a couple of "social animals" on its roster! Other recent head coaches - - Pettibone to the present - - were far closer to the "players' coach end of the spectrum" than to the "drill sergeant end of the spectrum."

As with all charges and insinuations of this kind, there is always a hint of "truthiness" in there along with plenty of exaggeration, generalization, retaliation and aggravation.

The word around the league is that Shanahan is trying to pull the reins on the team and increase the percentage of "football first" players. That will take time and that will cause some controversies - - as we have seen already. The ONLY way that culture change can be completed is for the coaches, the fans and the owner to have the patience and the focus to see it through.

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If this is true, and personally I have little reason to believe it isn't, then I would expect Paul and Hurt to be at a disadvantage because out of the 12 players we drafted they were the only two with character concerns.

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effff Willie Parker that piece of sh*t. could care less what this b*tch thinks

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I know this team has had its issues, but it is not like we're the Bengals of a few seasons ago when they had a ton of players arrested and a whole bunch of head cases on their team. Personally, I don't care much what Parker says given that a.) he sucked while he was here with the team and b.) he was here for just a couple of months.

Personally, I feel that with this draft Shanahan is showing that he truly wants to change the culture of the team by bringing good character guys (that can still play). I do hope that he continues this by getting rid of McNabb and Haynesworth.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;801112]Yeah the Steelers are such a GREAT Organization..

They have a Rapist and a Bin Laden apologist.. Thats the team I want to root for..[/quote]


[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]And 6 Superbowls......[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But seriously, a lot of the players that were pursued by multiple teams picked DC because we paid them the most. Fletcher probably included although the GW relationship could have been a big part. Some guys are gonna play hard as hell every down of every game and earn their money and respect (Fletcher) some guys might be content just doing enough and collecting their paycheck. I think the types of guys we drafted this year shows that Allen and Shanahan recognized the need for a character change. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Also when a team hasn’t really won anything and regularly finished last in its division over 15+ years that has to shape your teams cloture, Especially when compared to a team that has vets and coaches still on a team that know what it takes it win 2 Superbowls and regularly win their division and have high expectations. When you don’t party on the field maybe partying off the field is the only way to maintain…. You have to party one way or another brah……[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=Chico23231;801122]effff Willie Parker that piece of sh*t. could care less what this b*tch thinks[/quote]

did willie touch you in the no-no spot? :confused:

the truth hurts, hopefully we can change this type of menatality here. i really don't think parker gave his comments much thought or meant them as a dig towards the redskins franchise or it's fans. i think he was just hyping up his former team and showing their fans some love.

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What most Redskins fans succumb to when dealing with criticism.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink]Groupthink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_culture]Organizational culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

Parker is a brighter bulb than most think. After all, other companies(i.e Enron, Saloman Brothers) have been downed because of their shit culture.

Also, the actual quote was "they weren't about football, they were about partying".

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Their QB and (former) kicker are known to be party animals, but maybe Willie didn't hang out with them. Just like when he was here, I'm sure he didn't spend a ton of time with Fletch, PD, and Lorenzo Alexander.

[quote=mlmdub130;801148]did willie touch you in the no-no spot? :confused:

the truth hurts, hopefully we can change this type of menatality here. i really don't think parker gave his comments much thought or meant them as a dig towards the redskins franchise or it's fans. i think he was just hyping up his former team and showing their fans some love.[/quote]

all while talking bad about his most recent teammates and fans? Not the way to do it, if that's what he wanted to do.

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[quote=GreekSkin;801158]Their QB and (former) kicker are known to be party animals, but maybe Willie didn't hang out with them. Just like when he was here, I'm sure he didn't spend a ton of time with Fletch, PD, and Lorenzo Alexander.



all while talking bad about his most recent teammates and fans? Not the way to do it, if that's what he wanted to do.[/quote]Parker was referring to the COMMITMENT of the players to the craft. It is NOT that partying is unacceptable, it is the favoring of partying so much that our players were uncommitted to football that was the problem.

Rapistberger, despite his alleged raping excursions, DOES dedicate himself to his craft. Hence, even after his suspension, they reached the Super Bowl ONCE AGAIN.

Their kicker? Dude, kicking is one of the "lightest" jobs in football in terms of knowing what to do.

And besides, he also said something to the effect that if one dude tried to get them to talk about and be about football, it was like trying to move a freaking mountain. It just didn't get through.

No one is so ****ing immaculate that criticism is not deserved, especially for the Redskins. If someone is a ugly mutt, then he IS AN ugly mutt. The person who said it stated a fact.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;801163]Parker was referring to the COMMITMENT of the players to the craft. It is NOT that partying is unacceptable, it is the favoring of partying so much that our players were uncommitted to football that was the problem.

Rapistberger, despite his alleged raping excursions, DOES dedicate himself to his craft. Hence, even after his suspension, they reached the Super Bowl ONCE AGAIN.

Their kicker? Dude, kicking is one of the "lightest" jobs in football in terms of knowing what to do.

And besides, he also said something to the effect that if one dude tried to get them to talk about and be about football, it was like trying to move a freaking mountain. It just didn't get through.

No one is so ****ing immaculate that criticism is not deserved, especially for the Redskins. If someone is a ugly mutt, then he IS AN ugly mutt. The person who said it stated a fact.[/quote]

pretty much what he said

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[quote=Longtimefan;801104]This is only a headline because the Redskins cut him before he ever got a regular season carry. Comparing Pitsburgh to DC in like comparing Apples and Oranges. Randle El was here much longer than Willie thought about, went back to Pittsburgh and never heard a word from him anywhere similar to what Parker is talking about. Such a non-issue. Get a job Parker and do something then talk smack.[/quote]

He may have kept his mouth shut, but this excerpt does show which place he prefers.

[quote]Wide receiver Antwaan Randle-El is well equipped to speak about what makes the Steelers special. After spending the first four years of his career with the Steelers, Randle-El left for greener pastures with Dan Snyder in Washington. Following a four year stint with the Redskins, Randle-El is back with the Steelers. Upon his return, Randle-El made sure he reminded his teammates who have never played anywhere else just how good they have it.

"I was telling players that most places aren't like Pittsburgh."
[/quote]

[url=http://www.sportsnet.ca/football/nfl/2011/02/02/lang_steelers_report/]Lang at the Super Bowl: Sense of family - sportsnet.ca WAP[/url]

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Report on the Salute to Congress Dinner, February 1985:

"Riggins provided one of the evening's most memorable moments when he called across the table to the Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor: 'Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too tight.' Riggins, who complained of back pains during the dinner and at one point asked for an adjustment to his chair, got up and walked around, kneeled next to Justice O'Connor's husband, John, then dropped to one elbow and finally stretched out altogether, poking his cowboy boots under a guest's chair.

One guest said Riggins had slept for about an hour, first on his back and later on his stomach, snoring occasionally. After the speeches were concluded, Riggins was roused and escorted from the room."

If there had been a game the next day, he would have probably run for 100 yards and two touchdowns.

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Willie who?

Who cares, go back to Pittsburgh, doubt they'd even want you.

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WP is a A hole, he calls us a party team and he still couldn't make the team LOL.

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[quote=Mattyk;801176]Willie who?

Who cares, go back to Pittsburgh, doubt they'd even want you.[/quote]

Willie is staying in VA with Marty and the Destroyers...

[url=http://www.ufl-football.com/news/willie-parker-pat-white-head-destroyers-reserve-unsigned-list-0]Willie Parker, Pat White Head Destroyers Reserve Unsigned List | UFL[/url]

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Not sure why you guys are hating on Willie Parker, but the guy is telling the truth. So what he pretty much finished as a player in the league, does that mean what he said isn't valid? He's just one of many that have said the same thing over and over.

My guess is, if some of these "club scene" gurus didn't party all night, they wouldn't have to sleep in meetings.
[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/devinthomassleeping.jpg[/IMG]




The good news is, they are being removed slowly but surely. (D. Thomas is a prime example)

Yet another reason why I like our draft and the fact we brought in a lot of team leaders. Hopefully Fletch and PD will pass the torch to a new generation of Skins that wants to win.

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He'd probably know better than any of us what it was like. He doesn't say, of course, if he partied with the rest of them.

I don't interact directly with the current team anymore but I do know that there is a certain reputation around the league about the team..well I should say, was a certain reputation. I do believe it is changing. Most of the "abusers" are gone.

But the Redskins have had a seesaw culture (if that even makes sense). I was there during the Turner, Marty, and Spurrier years.

And I've talked about this before.

Norv-bless his heart he really tried, but he just couldn't command any respect. Mainly because he didn't try to earn it, so much as he tried to force it upon everyone without really proving he deserved it

Marty-took a while to earn people's respect, but he got it

Spurrier-he just wanted to coach football and there was no discipline at all during this time. 2002 was my favorite year covering the Redskins. Non-stop partying. I've mentioned here how I used to get phone calls from players during meetings...during their meetings, not mine. Heck, I used to plan parties for these guys "Come to Rod Gardner's Birthday Party...Live at the Ibex!"

Gibbs-Well, by now I was gone but by all accounts instant respect and accountability

Zorn-As I've heard it, very similar to Norv. But then what made it worse was Cerrato above him

Anyhow, I don't doubt what Parker was saying may have been true last spring. But I don't know if it is so much now

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[quote=GMScud;801071]Yeah I saw this. Seems a little like sour grapes to me. Shanahan is attempting to change a culture, and I think in large part the guys are buying in. Sure Brandon Banks got stabbed in a nightclub at 2am, but apart from that, it's not like we have players getting in trouble by any means.

I'd like to know who he's referring to, and I'd also like to hear some of our current players react to these comments.[/quote]

Maybe it's true

but with so many reports of the party scene.. LL, BB, CP, FD, etc.. I wouldnt be surprised

ESPECIALLY compared to Pittsburgh...

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[quote=GMScud;801074]Pretty sure Fletch would have something to say about this. I mean, didn't we just have 30 or so players assemble for their own mini-camp on their own dime just for the sake of improving as a team? Doesn't sound like a group of guys who don't care about football.[/quote]

20some I think

I don't know the attendance on the recent Steelers workouts

Saints had 37

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[quote=mredskins;801075]Unless I am missing out but DC nightlife on the weekends is dead, the city is a ghost town especially in the summer time![/quote]you're in the wrong parts of the city lol