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Luxorreb 11-24-2004 08:26 AM

Skins will beat Steelers!!!
 
Luxorreb is back in town from a US tour.
I'm predicting major upset in Ketchup land on Sunday!
Call me crazy but I got a feeling...
Hitting Portis on a screen instead of Betts is the answer.
Skins win by 11 pts.

irish 11-24-2004 08:29 AM

The skins will be lucky if they score 11 points.

Steelers 30
Skins 10

jbcjr14 11-24-2004 09:13 AM

WOW. Bold prediction and I like it, but sorry don't agree with it. Skins may not score an offensive touchdown again this week. Steelers win going away 35-6 as it gets ugly in the second half.

aehs77 11-24-2004 09:19 AM

i also disagree the skins will win but by 7 not 11

skinsguy 11-24-2004 11:10 AM

That rookie QB in Pittsburgh isn't immortal and I think our defense as depleted as it is will pressure him. Look to see Gibbs giving Ramsey a few more opporunties to go downfield. RosinlongnamethatIcan'trememberburger has to have a bad game eventually and I think its going to come this week. Cincy played them tough last week and had opportunities to win the game and when Pitts beat NE and Philly...you gotta know that their defenses are not THAT great.

I expect this game to be close and if the Redskins do actually drop this game, it will probably be the same story..they drop it in the 4th quarter, but I am going to say that the Redskins will find a way to edge Pittsburgh out 12-10.

redrock-skins 11-24-2004 11:21 AM

Let's just say I wouldn't lay down a bet for the Redskins and that's even with us getting 10.5 points (which are the odds this week).

Steelers win easy 27-10

MTK 11-24-2004 12:16 PM

I love optimism

Riggo44 11-24-2004 12:28 PM

I sure hope you guy's are right. I will be at the game. I am going with an old friend of mine(He's a huge Steelers fan) we bet last year that the looser has to buy drinks after the game. :doh:
If we can some how win I will be in Heaven! :D I know it's not very likely. But a guy can dream can't he? :embarrass
:httr:

RedskinRat 11-24-2004 12:34 PM

If we only had an aggressive offense we could possibly pull this out, but we don't and we can't. Let's build for next season.

offiss 11-24-2004 12:41 PM

The skin's can't be judged on talent right now we have plenty, it's nice to say we are going to beat this one or that one, but we can't beat team's we are supposed to beat let alone a team we are not. Gibb's has shown to much of a reluctance to open thing's up he's stuck on ultra conservative play which isn't going to work, because every team we play is strictly game planning for it, until we start going down field that's how it's going to remain, our line need's help opening some holes and that help has to be in the form of a consistant passing game. I don't see that right now against anyone, let alone the Steeler's.

GoSkins! 11-24-2004 12:43 PM

If our offencse doesn't score points, it will get ugly fast. I think our D is on the verge of giving up. They give the offense every opportunity and it's always for nothing. If the offense can score 17 points, I think we have a chance. If we score 6 again, watch Bettis rumble for a couple of late TD's against our demorolized defense late in the game to make it a blow out.

offiss 11-24-2004 12:47 PM

[QUOTE=GoSkins!]If our offencse doesn't score points, it will get ugly fast. I think our D is on the verge of giving up. They give the offense every opportunity and it's always for nothing. If the offense can score 17 points, I think we have a chance. If we score 6 again, watch Bettis rumble for a couple of late TD's against our demorolized defense late in the game to make it a blow out.[/QUOTE]


I agree our defense is on the verge of throwing their hand's in the air their frustration is mounting and ready to explode.

sportscurmudgeon 11-24-2004 01:02 PM

For those who think the Skins will win outright, you can get 7-1 odds on that at various on-line sports books.


Pittsburgh wins here 20-13.


Keep an eye on Troy Palumaulo (sp?) who is the Pitts safety. This guy is REALLY good. He's "Roy Williams good" and "Brian Dawkins good" and "Ed Reed good". He came out of USC and was a rookie last year but did not play a lot due to "nagging injuries" whatever they are...

4TH RING 11-24-2004 01:07 PM

Riggo44, I suggest you try and get your friend to his limit before the game is over. It'll definately save you some money. ;)

sportscurmudgeon 11-24-2004 01:17 PM

offiss:

I hope the Skins' defense does not just toss their hands in the air because there is a precendnt they should try to emulate.


There was a team that went almost a full month without scoring an offensive TD; I think they went over 15 quarters with nothing but field goals from the offense. As I recall, they went 2-2 in that 4 game stretch because the drefense just stoned the other treams cold and scored a TD or two on its own.


That team went on to win the Super Bowl that year; it was the Baltimore Ravens. Really dominant defenses find ways to score if the offense can't

SkinsRock 11-24-2004 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Luxorreb]Luxorreb is back in town from a US tour.
I'm predicting major upset in Ketchup land on Sunday!
Call me crazy but I got a feeling...
Hitting Portis on a screen instead of Betts is the answer.
Skins win by 11 pts.[/QUOTE]
I had that same feeling last week, and look where it got us... :doh:
That said, I can never pick against the Skins (I never put money on it), so Skins win 17-13.

Really, Roeth hasn't played that great the past couple games, but the Bus has been rolling (pardon the pun). If we can stop the run, we win...simple as that.....oh, and actually getting into the end zone would help too! ;)

MTK 11-24-2004 02:05 PM

We'd better have Griffin back this week if we expect to contain the Steelers running game. We clearly missed his presence last week.

Redskins_P 11-24-2004 02:19 PM

Skins : 41

Steelers : 7


:Smoker:

skin4Life28 11-24-2004 02:19 PM

Look for Mr. Porter and Mr. Farrior to put the lock down on Portis. Thus, making Ramsey throw for another 30 times all for 140 yards, 1 td, and 1 int. Also, plenty of stupid penalties to take us out of the red zone and force viva ah Ola to miss again. Score 23-10 Steelers.

SkinsRock 11-24-2004 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=skin4Life28]Look for Mr. Porter and Mr. Farrior to put the lock down on Portis. Thus, making Ramsey throw for another 30 times all for 140 yards, 1 td, and 1 int. Also, plenty of stupid penalties to take us out of the red zone and force viva ah Ola to miss again. Score 23-10 Steelers.[/QUOTE]
I believe Hall should be back this week, so I guess you could give us 3-6 more points??? ;)

saden1 11-24-2004 02:35 PM

If you guys haven't noticed the Steelers have the best D in the NFL and we have one of the worst offense in the NFL. We aren't going to in this battle. Not with our offense at least.

offiss 11-24-2004 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]offiss:

I hope the Skins' defense does not just toss their hands in the air because there is a precendnt they should try to emulate.


There was a team that went almost a full month without scoring an offensive TD; I think they went over 15 quarters with nothing but field goals from the offense. As I recall, they went 2-2 in that 4 game stretch because the drefense just stoned the other treams cold and scored a TD or two on its own.


That team went on to win the Super Bowl that year; it was the Baltimore Ravens. Really dominant defenses find ways to score if the offense can't[/QUOTE]


SC, I agree, The reason I say that is that our D is starting to give up point's unlike the Raven's D, and that is when finger pointing happen's, they are going to start looking for an excuse for why their surrending point's, and the first place they will look is the offense, injuries have defiently played a part in it no doubt, but even with those injuries our defense has played well enough to have us 9-0 with a little help from our offense, I do feel 1 of Gibb's greatest attributes as a coach is his ability to keep his team united ala the strike year in 87' I don't think we will see anything like the Giant's 5 or 6 year's ago but they will be thinking it.

skinsguy 11-24-2004 04:28 PM

[QUOTE=saden1]If you guys haven't noticed the Steelers have the best D in the NFL and we have one of the worst offense in the NFL. We aren't going to in this battle. Not with our offense at least.[/QUOTE]

Our D isn't too shabby either which is why I think it's going to be a close low scoring game...

offiss 11-24-2004 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=skinsguy]Our D isn't too shabby either which is why I think it's going to be a close low scoring game...[/QUOTE]


This has the under written all over it, so bet the over. :thumb:

Daseal 11-24-2004 04:39 PM

I think we can beat the Steelers. We need to be AGGRESSIVE early on and make Ben throw on us. They're corners are mediocre and safeties are bad in coverage. Open up the run with the pass.

bedlamVR 11-24-2004 06:54 PM

The Skins are being looked past good..

Big ben is comming off a bad game it could get worse hurry him from snap one and without his best target he could really strugle . The Stealers still haven't done anything about thier pass defence, I note also Smoot and Springs are being dismissed by many comentators because Randle El and Ward are just so good.

It is all about confidence with the O. There is talent here and if everything starts clicking we could really have an upset here . We ran the Eagles close last week less dropped passes and more focus on the O line it would have been a totally different game.

I wouldn't put the house on the Skins... hell it is the Skins they kind find ways to loose to anyone , but I will be here come sunday night following the game just like every week

Bozzy 11-24-2004 08:09 PM

yeah, maybe in our dreams we'll win. In all reality, we will probably only win one more game, and it'll be against the Niners. Maybe we win 2 more. Oh well, higher in the draft!

sportscurmudgeon 11-24-2004 10:56 PM

Daseal:

You have said several times that the DBs for the Eagles and the Steelers are not so hot and that the Skins can exploit them. Well we saw that they did not do that with the Eagles very well so let's look at the Steelers.

Pittsburgh has given up fewer yards per game passing than the Redskins - whose defense is praised around here at every opportunity.

Pittsburgh has also given up fewer points per game than the Redskins.

Both teams have 12 INTs for the year so that is a wash. But the Steeleers have produced 4 defensive TDs this year and the Skins have generated ZERO.

So if the Pittsburgh DBs are "mediocre" and "bad" in coverage, how come they have performed at least as well as the Redskins' defense this year?

Is it because the Steelers have 31 sacks and the Skins only have 23? Why isn't that an indication that the Skins DL is "mediocre" and/or "bad" in pass pressure?

Here's what I think is the reality of the situation: The Steelers' defense is very good. It is at least as good as the Skins' defense and maybe better. Can they be beaten? Of course they can, but it is not nearly as simple as asking the Skins to throw the ball long to a bunch of wide receivers who don't get open deep very often.

And as I said elsewhere , keep your eye on Troy Palomalu (sp?) at safety for Pitts. This guy is really, really good!

celts32 11-24-2004 11:00 PM

I am usualy extremely cautous in predicting Redskins wins the past few or 10 years, but I definitely think the Redskins can win this game. The Steelers have played so many big games lately with NE & Philly and then rival Cleveland, so a let down game is very possible. If the Steelers overlook the skins then it can be close. And if the game is close then the Skins will have a chance to win in the 4th quarter. They will need to turn Ramsey loose more than they did against Philly though if any of this is to play out. I will say Redskins 17 Steelers 13

That Guy 11-25-2004 02:42 AM

SC, we did get 1 TD off a blocked punt... some sites list that as a defensive touchdown... still i agree that our Dline is the weakest part of our D, they aren't as good as the 2000 ravens, BUT the D is missing a lot of starters right now, and our starting SS is #5 on our safety depth chart...

steelers are missing burress, and i'll take that, but i don't think thats enough... and ben had a bad game last week, kinda doubt he does it two games in a row...

itvnetop 11-25-2004 06:01 AM

[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]
And as I said elsewhere , keep your eye on Troy Palomalu (sp?) at safety for Pitts. This guy is really, really good![/QUOTE]

Polamalu has some amazing closing skills... I think we're going to see a game with excellent hits on both sides of the ball. Hopefully it's the national game here on the west.

Daseal 11-25-2004 09:43 AM

Sports. The Steelers benefit from running 150 yards a game (which we better stop) and a strong pass rush. Their defensive backs are expoitable. That pomalu guy is a hard hitter, but he's exploitable in coverage. If we go down field on them, we can beat them. The way Gibbs has been calling his games we don't have a shot, but if we go downfield we do.

Gmanc711 11-25-2004 10:31 AM

The key to the game for us, outside of scoring points because that is always a key. We need to stop Bettis; if Griffin is playing I think it increases our chances tramendously. We need to force Rothlesberger to beat us, which he hasent shown he can do to anyone yet ( No way a knock on him though, hes doing exactly what hes asked of). So I think if we can force them to throw, we could have a chance.

Daseal 11-25-2004 11:05 AM

exactly Gmac. Make the rookie beat us and we'll get a W and some respect.


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