Zorn presser: Defends Suisham
 

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[QUOTE]Here are the highlights of Jim Zorn’s Monday press conference at Redskins Park.
DT [B]Albert Haynesworth[/B] is injured again, but no word on playing this Sunday.
FB [B]Mike Sellers[/B] has a thigh bruise with bleeding. Sellers is questionable for Sunday’s game after being released from the hospital. Seems like an injury rather similar to what [B]Jason Taylor[/B] had last year, but not as severe.
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Zorn is a clueless idiot. He isn't even involved in personell decisions anymore. So him defending Suisham is on par with every other decision he has made.

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Fire them both.

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Zorn on PK Shaun Suisham’s botched field goal: “Decent snap, excellent hold, it was a poor kick.”

I don't see that as defending Suisham.

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I defended Suisham after the Dallas game -- we didn't lose that one because of him. But after yesterday, get his ass outta here.

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Even if he DID defend Suisham, he has no choice. I'd much rather have a coach that defends him than hangs him out to dry. The coach shouldn't be deflecting blame to players. Good leaders take responsibility for a loss and give credit to others for a win, it's part of the job.

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[quote=Paintrain;636102]Zorn on PK Shaun Suisham’s botched field goal: “Decent snap, excellent hold, it was a poor kick.”

I don't see that as defending Suisham.[/quote]

Neither do I

:confused:

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[quote=Daseal;636105]Even if he DID defend Suisham, he has no choice. I'd much rather have a coach that defends him than hangs him out to dry. The coach shouldn't be deflecting blame to players. Good leaders take responsibility for a loss and give credit to others for a win, it's part of the job.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=Daseal;636105]Even if he DID defend Suisham, he has no choice. I'd much rather have a coach that defends him than hangs him out to dry. The coach shouldn't be deflecting blame to players. Good leaders take responsibility for a loss and give credit to others for a win, it's part of the job.[/quote]

Agreed, Zorn showed class by not throwing his kicker under the bus. I was mortified earlier this year by Jim Mora Jr. when he placed his teams defeat solely on his kicker.

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Zorn is a stand up guy, his character has never been under question, his ability as a coach is what should be examined

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[quote=Kalisto2010;636111]Agreed, Zorn showed class by not throwing his kicker under the bus. I was mortified earlier this year by Jim Mora Jr. when he placed his teams defeat solely on his kicker.[/quote]

Yeah, but 23 yards!?!?!?!

He should be thrown under the team bus and backed over a few times.

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[quote=Paintrain;636102]Zorn on PK Shaun Suisham’s botched field goal: “Decent snap, excellent hold, it was a poor kick.”

I don't see that as defending Suisham.[/quote]
[quote=Mattyk72;636107]Neither do I

:confused:[/quote]
Here is the defense:
[quote=Zorn]"I trust Shaun Suisham…If I had to send him out to do it again, I’d send him out." Zorn says they lost the game as a team and Suisham isn’t cleaning out his locker today. He listed the other mistakes the team made [fumbles, interception, pass coverage] as evidence that the loss cannot simply be blamed on Shaun Suisham.[/quote]

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[quote=Buster;636124]Yeah, but 23 yards!?!?!?!

He should be thrown under the team bus and backed over a few times.[/quote]

Agreed. Nothing more than an extra point. Suisham has now blown two consecutive games on make-able, extremely make-able field goals for a NFL kicker, 39 and 23.

Only thing is, at 3-9, whats the point in doing anything now?

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[quote]Zorn: “I trust Shaun Suisham…If I had to send him out to do it again, I’d send him out.”[/quote]

That is absolutely defending Suisham and I am not sure how you muster up trust.

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I don't see the defense of Suisham ("poor kick"), especially since Gano is visiting this week, if PFT is to be believed.

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[quote=PennSkinsFan;636160]That is absolutely defending Suisham and I am not sure how you muster up trust.[/quote]

Careful, you're entering PFT territory...

I don't have any problem with what Zorn said. If you can't send a kicker out to kick a 23 yarder (even knowing what we know now), you probably shouldn't be a head coach in the league.

I'm no Suisham fan (as a Skins kicker), but it seems like you're really reaching here.

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[quote=cpayne5;636166]Careful, you're entering PFT territory...

[B]I don't have any problem with what Zorn said. If you can't send a kicker out to kick a 23 yarder (even knowing what we know now), you probably shouldn't be a head coach in the league. [/B]

I'm no Suisham fan (as a Skins kicker), but it seems like you're really reaching here.[/quote]

if you can't make a 23 yarder you shouldn't be a kicker in this league

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[quote=BDBohnzie;636157]Here is the defense:[/quote]

What he said was true about all the other stuff that cost us. What should he say I will never trust him again and only send him out on the field when I have no other choice. We have 4 games left and canning him now would do us no good and he has also won several games for us.

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[quote=mlmdub130;636170]if you can't make a 23 yarder you shouldn't be a kicker in this league[/quote]

Be careful with that logic. ;) Suisham can make a 23 yarder, he just missed one yesterday.

Adam Vinatieri is credited with 9 missed PATs in his career. I assume he wouldn't be good enough for you?

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[quote=cpayne5;636166]Careful, you're entering PFT territory...

I don't have any problem with what Zorn said. If you can't send a kicker out to kick a 23 yarder (even knowing what we know now), you probably shouldn't be a head coach in the league.

I'm no Suisham fan (as a Skins kicker), but it seems like you're really reaching here.[/quote]

Agreed

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Has SS kicked any last minute game winning FG for us. I do remember him having the only points in games that we wone but I cannot recall any last play of game win.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636090]Zorn is a clueless idiot. He isn't even involved in [B]personell[/B] decisions anymore. So him defending Suisham is on par with every other decision he has made.[/quote]
if your going to call someone an idiot, you might want to have your bases covered. and pennskinsfan, you ask whats the point of doing something now? you send a message, that's what

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[quote=cpayne5;636179]Be careful with that logic. ;) Suisham can make a 23 yarder, he just missed one yesterday.

Adam Vinatieri is credited with 9 missed PATs in his career. I assume he wouldn't be good enough for you?[/quote]

vinateri also made some pretty clutch kicks in his carrer if i do recall, when has shushi ever made one?

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[quote=mlmdub130;636237]vinateri also made some pretty clutch kicks in his carrer if i do recall, when has shushi ever made one?[/quote]

I thought you wanted to talk about missed kicks? ;)

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[quote=cpayne5;636166]Careful, you're entering PFT territory...

I don't have any problem with what Zorn said. If you can't send a kicker out to kick a 23 yarder (even knowing what we know now), you probably shouldn't be a head coach in the league.

I'm no Suisham fan (as a Skins kicker), but it seems like you're really reaching here.[/quote]
A lot of the articles seem to be as sensational as some of the opinions here that get ragged on.

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[quote=cpayne5;636267]I thought you wanted to talk about missed kicks? ;)[/quote]
Now it's just getting too nitpicky.

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Sorry that my incorrect spelling of personnel has offended some. And how ironic the the thread is talking about being too nitpicky but yet my spelling is called out.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636431]Sorry that my incorrect spelling of personnel has offended some. And how ironic the the thread is talking about being too nitpicky but yet my spelling is called out.[/quote]
Well allow me to nitpick and say that the situation that you describe is not ironic.

But yes, it would be better if people argued the point instead.

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He doesn't say he's blameless.
And anyone would trust a kicker to make short kicks even if he missed one.

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It's almost funny to see how Jim Zorn has evolved as a coach. If this was last year he probably would have criticized Shazams execution, or lack there of. Now he defends him. He's still a great QB coach but I don't see him staying in any role after this mess of a season.

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Per Twitter: Kicker change is official. Graham Gano in, Shaun Suisham out.

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So much for defending him eh

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[quote=Mattyk72;636631]So much for defending him eh[/quote]

It goes back to wondering what structure and communication is really happening at Redskins Park. I imagine this was purely Vinny's call, but nowadays it's impossible to gauge.

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I think it's fairly obvious this move was out of Zorn's hands and came from above.