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SmootSmack 11-17-2009 11:12 PM

I'm So Done With...
 
Who's that one high-profile starter on this team that you've just had enough of and you want him gone by season's end if not sooner?

Ignore all salary cap concerns, and who will replace him, and what it means for other needs.

This is just about raw emotion. It's just that guy you simply wish wasn't a part of your favorite team

(for this one, I made the votes public)

Ruhskins 11-17-2009 11:16 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;627059]Who's that one high-profile starter on this team that you've just had enough of and you want him gone by season's end if not sooner?

Ignore all salary cap concerns, and who will replace him, and what it means for other needs.

This is just about raw emotion. It's just that guy you simply wish wasn't a part of your favorite team

(for this one, I made the votes public)[/quote]

I'm going to predict Jason Campbell wins by a landslide. I picked Rogers actually...I really don't know who'd replace him...Barnes perhaps.

GTripp0012 11-17-2009 11:20 PM

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Ugh, you can't have this poll and not put DeAngelo Hall on there. ;) People will go nuts.

I'm just going to have to pretend I hate Portis now.

hondakiller 11-17-2009 11:22 PM

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Very interesting poll. I went with Santana Moss. His lack of effort on so many plays and the way he disappears in games drives me nuts.

Ruhskins 11-17-2009 11:23 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;627063][B]Ugh, you can't have this poll and not put DeAngelo Hall on there. ;) People will go nuts.[/B]

I'm just going to have to pretend I hate Portis now.[/quote]

I think SFREDSKINS alone would crash the server by voting repeatedly (I kid, I kid). LOL.

:rofl:

GTripp0012 11-17-2009 11:25 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;627065]I think SFREDSKINS alone would crash the server by voting repeatedly (I kid, I kid). LOL.

:rofl:[/quote]No, but I seriously don't believe any of these players is void of any future value. I'd vote Portis out of the bunch though.

You could also probably squeeze an offensive lineman on here. You could get some Rabach or Stephon Heyer votes probably.

DynamiteRave 11-17-2009 11:26 PM

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Why isn't there an all option!? :(

Lotus 11-17-2009 11:26 PM

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[quote=hondakiller;627064]Very interesting poll. I went with Santana Moss. His lack of effort on so many plays and the way he disappears in games drives me nuts.[/quote]

Agreed. I can name many times when he's been lost in his own mental land. The most egregious event was that playoff game in Seattle when he quit on a play which resulted in an interception which sealed a loss.

dmek25 11-17-2009 11:27 PM

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enough of the Jason Campbell excuses already. see ya, wouldn't want to be ya.

Gmanc711 11-17-2009 11:28 PM

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Of the list, probaboly Portis... theres no one on there that jumps out at me... I like Portis, absolutley love what he's done for this organization and appreciate the memories, but I feel like it might be time for each side to move on. Let him catch on with a big contender, and let us start to build for the future.

DynamiteRave 11-17-2009 11:29 PM

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I voted Rogers, mainly because he's just as over us as we are him. The guy could careless about the team and making himself a viable #1 CB for the Skins and that's a serious issue and a little bit dangerous in the sense of, well if he doesn't care do you really think he's gonna go out there and give his all? I mean I know he's getting millions, but when you're working somewhere you hate, you really do out there and do the least amount of work you can to get by and not get bitched at.

The other guys listed I think still care even though they don't produce very well either.

funked 11-17-2009 11:31 PM

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Portis. He has carried us through some hard times, but his lack of practice sets a bad example. If I could have voted for everyone I would have, except for maybe Randle El --> from what I hear he works hard just can't return punts.

Trample the Elderly 11-17-2009 11:32 PM

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Damn! How about all of them? Or better yet, how about the player from the U? I chose CP only because he has no trade value.

Zerohero 11-17-2009 11:33 PM

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As much as i dislike Campbell as a player, i still wish him success. Voted for Portis all the way.

Eknox 11-17-2009 11:51 PM

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I voted Carlos Rogers, at least Portis is a good blocker and Campbell can throw TD's .

skinster 11-17-2009 11:58 PM

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i accidentally voted laron. Im just pissed he didnt pan out after I had such high hopes for him. But I still want him around (kind of...more because we don't have anyone to replace him). I want portis gone. Sort of Campbell too, but I dont think we can find a replacement in FA and I doubt were going to draft anyone this year with OL being such a need.

The Goat 11-18-2009 12:00 AM

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Eff this is an impossible choice. CP, Moss, ARL, Landry and Los should all be headed out the door IMHO. Jason could be kept as a backup or to compete possibly as the starter but those other guys have no business left here.

...threads like this are just a damn sad reminder of how this team is run. My word we've got tens and tens of millions of dollars wrapped up in guys who don't produce, have "me first" attitudes, or both.

The Goat 11-18-2009 12:01 AM

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...so anyway I think we should be able to select multiple guys and then we can still see who got the most "go away" votes :)

SmootSmack 11-18-2009 12:12 AM

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[quote=The Goat;627095][B]Eff this is an impossible choic[/B]e. CP, Moss, ARL, Landry and Los should all be headed out the door IMHO. Jason could be kept as a backup or to compete possibly as the starter but those other guys have no business left here.

...threads like this are just a damn sad reminder of how this team is run. My word we've got tens and tens of millions of dollars wrapped up in guys who don't produce, have "me first" attitudes, or both.[/quote]

You're telling me. I created the poll and I still have no idea who I'd choose. Leaning toward Landry, but part of me says Rogers...and then another part says "what about Moss?"

12thMan 11-18-2009 12:37 AM

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Let's face it, Campbell and Portis will probably be back. But I'm so done with [B]Santana Moss[/B]. For a couple of reasons. First, where in the heck has he been this season? When he's hot he's hot and when he's not he's not. There's no in between with this guy. I friggin hate that. He never has a quiet 7 or 8 reception game. He never throws that key downfield block. I've never seen him recover a costly fumble made by another player. He rarely stretches for a first down to keep a drive alive. It's fifty yard bombs or nothing with Moss. This offense isn't designed to live that way.

Secondly, I feel once he's gone the organization will stop leaning on him and sink or swim with Thomas and Kelly. We need to fully commit to them. Sometimes other guys won't produce until you get rid of the dead weight. I don't think Moss is holding them back, but I would like to see Devin and Malcolm starting accross from each other, no questions asked.

Trade Moss, do whatever but I'm so done with him.

saden1 11-18-2009 12:40 AM

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Definitely Moss...you'za bitch Moss. Rogers can get it too...get them hands checked homie, some'in is wrong with them.

AYJAX 11-18-2009 12:49 AM

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I chose Portis on this one. I am a big believer in "you don't practice you don't play".

GMScud 11-18-2009 01:32 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;627067]Why isn't there an all option!? :([/quote]

LOL, that's the first thing I thought when I opened this thread. I voted Rogers because SmootSmack asked for raw emotion, and he's pissed me off the most lately (Rogers, not SS).

I'd love to be finished with Portis like yesterday. Seriously, that guy could never put on a Skins jersey again and I wouldn't bat an eye. He's done a ton for this franchise, but he's so done. Football is brutal business.

SmootSmack 11-18-2009 01:36 AM

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[quote=GMScud;627112]LOL, that's the first thing I thought when I opened this thread. I voted Rogers because SmootSmack asked for raw emotion, and he's pissed me off the most lately (Rogers, not SS).

I'd love to be finished with Portis like yesterday. Seriously, that guy could never put on a Skins jersey again and I wouldn't bat an eye. He's done a ton for this franchise, but he's so done. Football is brutal business.[/quote]

I've pissed you off the second most, right? :)

You know it's not too far from possible that Portis is done simply because his concussions are apparently a very serious deal

I think my vote is going to go to Moss

GMScud 11-18-2009 01:47 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;627114]I've pissed you off the second most, right? :)
[B]
You know it's not too far from possible that Portis is done simply because his concussions are apparently a very serious deal[/B]

I think my vote is going to go to Moss[/quote]

I hadn't read that. Has he had multiple concussions? That dude's body has taken such a pounding over the years. He could hang it up now and still probably have major issues later in life as a result of his football career.

djnemo65 11-18-2009 02:16 AM

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Portis. Him and I are so finished.

GridIron26 11-18-2009 02:26 AM

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[quote=12thMan;627104]Let's face it, Campbell and Portis will probably be back. But I'm so done with [B]Santana Moss[/B]. For a couple of reasons. First, where in the heck has he been this season? When he's hot he's hot and when he's not he's not. There's no in between with this guy. I friggin hate that. He never has a quiet 7 or 8 reception game. He never throws that key downfield block. I've never seen him recover a costly fumble made by another player. He rarely stretches for a first down to keep a drive alive. It's fifty yard bombs or nothing with Moss. This offense isn't designed to live that way.

Secondly, I feel once he's gone the organization will stop leaning on him and sink or swim with Thomas and Kelly. We need to fully commit to them. Sometimes other guys won't produce until you get rid of the dead weight. I don't think Moss is holding them back, but I would like to see Devin and Malcolm starting accross from each other, no questions asked.

Trade Moss, do whatever but I'm so done with him.[/quote]

This probably would do us good; although I would want to keep Moss, and have Moss and Randle El share the slot duty load.. Use Moss when it's bomb play, if it's not, then use Randle El..

[quote=AYJAX;627108]I chose Portis on this one. I am a big believer in "you don't practice you don't play".[/quote]

I agree with this, as well! But given his relationship with Snyder, we can't let him go, just not yet.. But coaches would be just doing their duties if they decide to demote Portis to like passing situations and little running?

saden1 11-18-2009 02:44 AM

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[quote=12thMan;627104]Let's face it, Campbell and Portis will probably be back. But I'm so done with [B]Santana Moss[/B]. For a couple of reasons. First, where in the heck has he been this season? When he's hot he's hot and when he's not he's not. There's no in between with this guy. I friggin hate that. He never has a quiet 7 or 8 reception game. He never throws that key downfield block. I've never seen him recover a costly fumble made by another player. He rarely stretches for a first down to keep a drive alive. It's fifty yard bombs or nothing with Moss. This offense isn't designed to live that way.

Secondly, I feel once he's gone the organization will stop leaning on him and sink or swim with Thomas and Kelly. We need to fully commit to them. Sometimes other guys won't produce until you get rid of the dead weight. I don't think Moss is holding them back, but I would like to see Devin and Malcolm starting accross from each other, no questions asked.

Trade Moss, do whatever but I'm so done with him.[/quote]

Don't forget dropping of easy catches. A #1 WR that can't catch the ball when it matters is a #3 receiver at best. I'm still pissed about that perfect ball in the endzone against the Eagles he dropped. I'm so done seeing him get mad at himself for dropping a ball.

rbanerjee23 11-18-2009 02:44 AM

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Im so tired of ... laron landry, what happened to this guy, he was supposed to be the next beastly safety now he just misses tackles, doesn't get interceptions and gets burned next. Even more so than the others on that list, Landry has been the biggest disappointment to me.

saden1 11-18-2009 02:49 AM

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Laron Landry does a lot of things on the field that doesn't show up on tape but of late his play has been erratic. Out of the players in the poll he's the least I am done with.

GTripp0012 11-18-2009 03:05 AM

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If you ranked these players by probability that they'd have a pro-bowl year in the future, it'd probably look like:

1. Landry
2. Portis
3. Rogers
4. Campbell
5. Moss
6. Randle El

But Randle El is probably the player that I'm least done with because he can perform at his role.

dmek25 11-18-2009 06:24 AM

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the people that have a hard one for Portis not practicing make me laugh. i think we are all in agreement that the guys gives 150% come game time. but like every other back, his body is starting to fail him. and we have a short memory around here when it comes to Campbell. i think its painfully obvious that he isn't a starting caliber Qback in this league

Beemnseven 11-18-2009 06:28 AM

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You want raw emotion? How's this...

I want Antwaan Randle El gone. He's an overrated, overpaid putz who makes me sick every time I see him. If there was a player who signifies everything wrong about this organization, you'd see Antwaan and that annoying, sh*t eating grin. May the millions he stole from this franchise be lost in a Bernie Madoff scheme. Seriously. When he's done, I want him on the side of the road, in a dirty trenchcoat with a card board sign reading: "Will muff punts for food -- God bless"

Eff him, and the bullsh*t horse he rode in on.

dmek25 11-18-2009 06:48 AM

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hey beems, tell us how you really feel:)

mlmdub130 11-18-2009 07:26 AM

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i voted rogers, and in all likely hood he is the most likely to be gone next year, i'm just so sick of losing games because of him, he has single handedly lost us a handful of games with his stone hands, i'm done with him and his attitude

i'm really surprised that as of now portis and los are tied though, i know portis has a hefty price tag so not sure whats gonna happen next year, not sure anyone else would want him honestly, so why not renegotiate and have him split some time, have him carry like 10-15 a game to spell whoever else is gonna be our number 1 next year. i think then he could be healthy and effective

Paintrain 11-18-2009 07:48 AM

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Rogers for me, easy choice. No tolerance for quitters.

CRedskinsRule 11-18-2009 07:57 AM

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[quote=Paintrain;627143]Rogers for me, easy choice. No tolerance for quitters.[/quote]

Ditto. Mainly, I think all these guys care about the Skins, and try to do their best, it's just that their best is not what we want it to be, or what they think of themselves. But Carlos has left the station. Maybe because of his coordinator's lack of respect for him, maybe because he is "so over it". But I am quite content if he never plays another down in a Skins uniform. Really, I didn't even realize he had been benched, and our d still held it's own. I suppose this week will be a good test, but I would rather see him benched then getting burned because he didn't give a damn.

joethiesmanfan 11-18-2009 08:08 AM

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[quote=12thMan;627104]Let's face it, Campbell and Portis will probably be back. But I'm so done with [B]Santana Moss[/B]. For a couple of reasons. First, where in the heck has he been this season? When he's hot he's hot and when he's not he's not. There's no in between with this guy. I friggin hate that. He never has a quiet 7 or 8 reception game. He never throws that key downfield block. I've never seen him recover a costly fumble made by another player. He rarely stretches for a first down to keep a drive alive. It's fifty yard bombs or nothing with Moss. This offense isn't designed to live that way.

Secondly, I feel once he's gone the organization will stop leaning on him and sink or swim with Thomas and Kelly. We need to fully commit to them. Sometimes other guys won't produce until you get rid of the dead weight. I don't think Moss is holding them back, but I would like to see Devin and Malcolm starting accross from each other, no questions asked.

Trade Moss, do whatever but I'm so done with him.[/quote]


You know not what you speak of. Moss is here to stretch the field so we can pound and play Joe Gibbs football. Tired of the cutesy WCO. You want a tall player to catch the little slants and stuff, that is not Moss. Utilize his strengths, there are no two NFL players alike. That's my beef with Zorn, he needs to learn to use what he has to advance. You don't ask Kelly to play like Moss and you don't ask Moss to play like TO. If you are a good coach then you know how to use Moss and Kelly to take advantage of what they have to offer.

davy 11-18-2009 08:12 AM

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As much as I dislike Campbell, Portis and Landry I had to vote Rogers.

I never had a problem with him dropping picks as long as he was shutting down receivers, but now he isn't even doing that and he clearly wants out of here so he can go rot somewhere else.

I have no problems at all with El as a receiver. It's not his fault he keeps being asked to return punts when he clearly isn't any good at it.

MTK 11-18-2009 08:17 AM

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Easy for me, Rogers.

He's inconsistent and his hands are some of the worst we've seen.


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