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DynamiteRave 09-01-2009 12:59 PM

Favre's Dirty Block?
 
I know it's not about the Redskins, but that doesn't mean its not news! :laughing2

So apparently people are talking about the block that Brett Favre threw on Eugene Wilson last night.

Personally, I'm no Brett Favre fan, dude sold out a long time ago.

It seems most people are saying it was a shitty move to throw in a preseason game. I know i checked out the video and kinda had my mouth open at the way that dude's leg got all bent up. Not the most awful injury (It's sure as hell no Theismann) but still pretty ugly to look at.

Ref's called it a bad block, but was it?

I was more pissed at the fact Favre didn't even go check on the guy. He obviously looked down at the guy rolling around on the ground and then he just walks away? Granted this is no touch football league, but when you KNOW you've hurt a guy I thought some kinda light would go off? Maybe not.

Anyway check out the vid.

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wilsowilso 09-01-2009 01:01 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
That's an illegal block. Doubt he was trying to hurt the dude, but that's a dangerous play.

Monkeydad 09-01-2009 01:14 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Most players usually do not "go check on" opponents after hitting them.

It was a low block, but not quite as low as knee level. I won't criticize a QB for not knowing how to block very much, I doubt Campbell, Romo, McNabb, the Mannings or Brady know how to perform a textbook block either.

I like how he actually goes after contact though instead of shying away from it like most QBs probably would.

He can be criticized for a lot of things, but actually playing hard is not one of them.

Skinny Tee 09-01-2009 01:14 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Favre is like Hollywood Hulk Hogan now that he's in Minnesota. Just give him a dark 5 o' clock shadow and a black bandana and you won't be as surprised when he blocks low.

DynamiteRave 09-01-2009 01:15 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=Buster;582754][B]Most players usually do not "go check on" opponents after hitting them.
[/B]
It was a low block, but not quite as low as knee level. I won't criticize a QB for not knowing how to block very much, I doubt Campbell, Romo, McNabb, the Mannings or Brady know how to perform a textbook block either.

I like how he actually goes after contact though instead of shying away from it like most QBs probably would.

He can be criticized for a lot of things, but actually playing hard is not one of them.[/quote]

Most games I see, there is at least a hint of concern. They might not go buy the dude a steak dinner afterward, but if I just ripped some guy's leg off (exaggerating obviously) I just wouldn't go about my business afterwards.

FRPLG 09-01-2009 01:25 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
When was the last time Favre actually had to block anyone? Peewee football? I doubt he has any clue or inclination to do it right. Crap block and definitely a flag but maybe if they're gonna run a play like that they ought to teach the QBs how to at least approximate blocking. Isn't that what training camp and preseason are for?....oh wait...maybe they did and Brett was sick that day...or mowing his grass.

Lotus 09-01-2009 02:01 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
In his post-game comments Favre expressed a wish that he didn't hurt anyone on the play, "including myself." I found that oddly self-referential.

I'm not sure that he cares about anyone but Favre-self.

MTK 09-01-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
It wasn't dirty, just stop with that.

A lot of his teammates today are praising it too. I think he may have won some guys over with that effort.

Monkeydad 09-01-2009 02:15 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
So I guess when Portis chased down and tackled a Bengal player a few years back in preseason, that was dirty too? He should have just let him score because it is preseason? Players aren't supposed to play hard and care about winning in the preseason?

I'll take a team of Favres and Porti' over a team of "oh are you OK, I'm sorry man..." types any day.

CRedskinsRule 09-01-2009 02:16 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
I think it was dirty, he went right at the knees, basically exposing his rib that was "cracked".

I think Favre was just ticked to be in a Wildcat formation and took the opportunity to vent.

CRedskinsRule 09-01-2009 02:18 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=Buster;582792]So I guess when Portis chased down and tackled a Bengal player a few years back in preseason, that was dirty too? He should have just let him score because it is preseason? Players aren't supposed to play hard and care about winning in the preseason?

I'll take a team of Favres and Porti' over a team of "oh are you OK, I'm sorry man..." types any day.[/quote]

No, but when you see a guy you hit rolling in pain, maybe you check him out? When LT took out JT he was the first one up screaming to the sidelines. When AH bellyflopped Brady, he stayed and offered him a hand up. It's not unheard of.

Monkeydad 09-01-2009 02:20 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;582793]I think it was dirty, he went right at the knees, basically exposing his rib that was "cracked".

I think Favre was just ticked to be in a Wildcat formation and took the opportunity to vent.[/quote]

Yeah, that's it...he's ticked that he's playing again...you are a genius.

CRedskinsRule 09-01-2009 02:23 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=Buster;582797]Yeah, that's it...he's ticked that he's playing again...you are a genius.[/quote]

Favre doesn't want someone else under center when he is on the field. Or do you think he just wants to be out doing whatever? He wants to be under center, calling plays and running the offense. My name is Wile E. Coyote!

NYCskinfan82 09-01-2009 02:29 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
You do it to a QB and they go crazy a QB does it to you and he get's high fives.

JLW428 09-01-2009 02:32 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
I thought the block was a little bit dirty, but he was just playing the game. Plus did anybody see the hit that came on the next play? I don't even remeber who it was because everyone is talking about that old man, but that was a hit worth talking about. They got the Vikings back...

FRPLG 09-01-2009 02:34 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
It wasn't "dirty". Dirty means he went low and didn't care if he hurt him or not. I don't think you can draw the conclusion that he had any clue at all what he was doing. He just went low like a QB who hasn't actually had to block someone in 30 years would.

12thMan 09-01-2009 02:36 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Looked clean to me. Little low, but I didn't think it should have been a penalty.

CRedskinsRule 09-01-2009 02:56 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=FRPLG;582805]It wasn't "dirty". Dirty means [B]he went low[/B] and [B]didn't care if he hurt him or not[/B]. I don't think you can draw the conclusion that he had any clue at all what he was doing. He just went low like a QB who hasn't actually had to block someone in 30 years would.[/quote]

He clearly went low, and he clearly looked at the guy and picked his spot. as for whether he cared if he hurt him, did he go over to see, no, cuz he didn't care. He got up, looked quickly over and walked off. Can't see how anyone sees that as a clean hit under current rules. If you want to argue the rules are too soft, ok, I agree. But under current rules that will be called every time, and I bet he gets a pretty nice fine also.

saden1 09-01-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
That was totally dirty. You don't block low like that. I mean, did you see how the guys knees buckled? Total cunt move!

FRPLG 09-01-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;582819]He clearly went low, and he clearly looked at the guy and picked his spot. as for whether he cared if he hurt him, did he go over to see, no, cuz he didn't care. He got up, looked quickly over and walked off. Can't see how anyone sees that as a clean hit under current rules. If you want to argue the rules are too soft, ok, I agree. But under current rules that will be called every time, and I bet he gets a pretty nice fine also.[/quote]

No I agree it was an illegal block. I just don't see it as "dirty". Dirty to me means you do it knowing you could it hurt the guy and you could have done it a different way but it was funner or easier to do the illegal way. I just think he didn't know what else to do. He's not going to engage the guy with his arms.

Edit: Now if he does it again...then that's dirty. He should know better and be more prepared now.

MTK 09-01-2009 03:10 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=FRPLG;582805]It wasn't "dirty". Dirty means he went low and didn't care if he hurt him or not. I don't think you can draw the conclusion that he had any clue at all what he was doing. He just went low like a QB who hasn't actually had to block someone in 30 years would.[/quote]

Agree 100%.

CRedskinsRule 09-01-2009 03:18 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=FRPLG;582823]No I agree it was an illegal block. I just don't see it as "dirty". Dirty to me means you do it knowing you could it hurt the guy and you could have done it a different way but it was funner or easier to do the illegal way. I just think he didn't know what else to do. He's not going to engage the guy with his arms.

Edit: Now if he does it again...then that's dirty. He should know better and be more prepared now.[/quote]

I guess to me it looked like he knew what he was doing, and took the cheap shot. But that is reading alot into his body motions, so I agree it was illegal, and if he were to do it more often, then a) maybe it was dirty, and b) his coach should be fined for putting a 40year old man out there like that. ;)

SmootSmack 09-01-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
You want to see a dirty shot...and if your stomach can handle it (warning: it's really gross). Do a YouTube search for Axel Witsel

saden1 09-01-2009 03:30 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Excuses...please...you don't need to be a genius to know that you simple don't block low like that. Everyone that knows football knows you don't go after the legs of somebody and he clearly did. Hope he gets the same treatment and have his career ended with a nice little parting gift.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-01-2009 03:44 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[FONT=Arial]4. Crackback: Eligible receivers who take or move to a position more than two yards outside the tackle may not block an opponent below the [B]waist[/B] if they then move back inside to block. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Childress needs to be very clear about this rule. Favre's block was clearly illegal. I don't think it was intentional though. But I can tell you in all the time I coached, I never taught going low on a crackback, I always had my players aim for the opponents ribcage. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial]Someone on the Vikes coaching staff needs to get a clue since they're going to be running a good bit of the Wildcat with Harvin. On this play [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Favre just made a pussy block.[/FONT]

Slingin Sammy 33 09-01-2009 03:48 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;582833]You want to see a dirty shot...and if your stomach can handle it (warning: it's really gross). Do a YouTube search for Axel Witsel[/quote]My late lunch tasted better the second time around.....Theismann-esque....uuugh.

dmek25 09-01-2009 04:43 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
for Christ sakes. we are talking about football, right? i would only hope J.C. would at least try to block someone. is this what football has come too? debating whether or not a block is dirty?

Ruhskins 09-01-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=NYCskinfan82;582801][B]You do it to a QB[/B] and they go crazy a QB does it to you and he get's high fives.[/quote]

Well it depends on the QB...when it happened to Carlson Palmer it wasn't that big of a deal, when it happened to Brady it was national disaster apparently.

Clark84 09-01-2009 04:48 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Not dirty, but too low. Good for him for his effort, although I don't want my QB throwing a block with his throwing shoulder.

SmootSmack 09-01-2009 05:05 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=dmek25;582872]for Christ sakes. we are talking about football, right? i would only hope J.C. would at least try to block someone. is this what football has come too? debating whether or not a block is dirty?[/quote]

Did you see the block?

dmek25 09-01-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
yes, i watched the video

RobH4413 09-01-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Cheap shot. Favre knows what a legal block is. He has played football for a long time. I don't know who to fault more, the coach who probably told him to go low... or Favre who actually did it.


I'm beginning to dislike Favre for a variety of reasons. This isn't helping his case.

SmootSmack 09-01-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
I don't think it was intentionally dirty. I think it was just awkward on Favre's part and he didn't really know what to do, and he sort of fell toward Wilson and then tried to slow down or back up.

I don't know why Childress is even lining him up at wide receiver in a preseason game. I understand they want to get Harvin involved in some wildcat formations. But I thought the whole reason you got Favre (old, injured Favre) because you wanted a legit QB who could lead your team and not have to resort to offensive gimmicks.

Lotus 09-01-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=RobH4413;582892]Cheap shot. Favre knows what a legal block is. He has played football for a long time. I don't know who to fault more, the coach who probably told him to go low... or Favre who actually did it.


[B]I'm beginning to dislike Favre for a variety of reasons.[/B] This isn't helping his case.[/quote]

Pull up a chair and join the club!...no don't...no do...no don't...no do.

NYCskinfan82 09-01-2009 05:32 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Listen to what the commentors said.

RobH4413 09-01-2009 05:44 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;582893]I don't think it was intentionally dirty. I think it was just awkward on Favre's part and he didn't really know what to do, and he sort of fell toward Wilson and then tried to slow down or back up.

I don't know why Childress is even lining him up at wide receiver in a preseason game. I understand they want to get Harvin involved in some wildcat formations. But I thought the whole reason you got Favre (old, injured Favre) because you wanted a legit QB who could lead your team and not have to resort to offensive gimmicks.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. Why call a play and have your injure prone old Quarterback throw a block in preseason. Which is why I have suspicions that he was told to go low.

Slingin Sammy 33 09-01-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=dmek25;582872]for Christ sakes. we are talking about football, right? i would only hope J.C. would at least try to block someone. is this what football has come too? debating whether or not a block is dirty?[/quote]There's a reason there's a rule that the crackback block must be above the waist, it's for player safety. The player being blocked is completely defenseless and to smack him high is one thing, going low has a high probability of injury. I only wish Favre would've blown out his shoulder on the play, would've served him right for such a blockheaded play.

charlied72 09-01-2009 08:51 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
Wow, i love this, a 40 year old quarter back throwing a block gota love Favre.

wolfeskins 09-01-2009 09:14 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;582909]There's a reason there's a rule that the crackback block must be above the waist, it's for player safety. The player being blocked is completely defenseless and to smack him high is one thing, going low has a high probability of injury. [B][U]I only wish Favre would've blown out his shoulder on the play, would've served him right for such a blockheaded play.[/quote][/U][/B]

what? r u crazy? that was a great block and it's perfectly legal.

wilsowilso 09-01-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Favre's Dirty Block?
 
[quote=wolfeskins;582948][/u][/b]

what? r u crazy? that was a great block and it's perfectly legal.[/quote]


??? That block was not at all legal and he was rightfully called for a penalty.


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