NFL.com's Redskins Season Preview
 

Here's what their "experts" say:

Vic Carucci
The Redskins seem destined to again bring up the rear in the NFL's best division, despite all of the money the Redskins spent to get DT Albert Haynesworth.
Prediction: 6-10, fourth in the NFC East.

Steve Wyche
QB Jason Campbell must make everyone better on offense. Defense was already good.
Prediction: 8-8, fourth in NFC East.

Pat Kirwan
Adding Albert Haynesworth to the No. 4 ranked defense makes them dominant. This season is all about QB Jason Campbell and his unproven receivers.
Prediction: 8-8, fourth in NFC East

Bucky Brooks
The Redskins continue to disappoint the D.C. faithful as their sputtering offense leads to a shocking season.
Prediction: 6-10, fourth in NFC East

Jason La Canfora
Could be great on defense, but will it be enough to overcome offensive limitations? Brutal second half schedule.
Prediction: 8-8, fourth in NFC East.

Here's the link: [URL="http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story?id=09000d5d81229f52&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true"] Redskins Preview[/URL]

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What a shocker. No one thinks we'll be very good. It's basically an annual theme at this point.

I do however totally agree (especially if we win week 1) with this take on our first of "Three Pivotal Games:"
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[I]Oct. 26 vs. Philadelphia[/I][/B][I]
The Redskins could have a full head of steam at this juncture, having already played St. Louis, Detroit, Tampa Bay and Kansas City. The defense should be among the league's best at this point. If they can bottle Philly's tailbacks in the run and short passing game, this could be a nice home victory.[/I]

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Tell me about it. Same song, different writers.

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LOL...I predict the Skins will finish first in the Division with a 12-4 record. The world is once again in balance.

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I don't remember much about La Canfora's predictive ability in the past, but it's worth pointing out that this group is made up of JLC and four guys who don't know 1/3 as much about the Redskins as JLC does.

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There used to be a point in time where I'd get upset about this, but this is par for the course as the season previews for the Skins go so it's no biggie. I'll be content to let our play on the field do the talking for better or worse.

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Under the radar works for me.

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They probably gave Dallas the praise. Like always. They never liked the skins as a whole so i dont care about anything they say. If we gave Big Al like an average pay they wouldve still had something negative to say. Eli is getting like 5$ under that and they acting like 95 million isnt enough for him. 9 for 21 in preseason vs. The jets isnt worthy of that money!

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Well, let's be honest with ourselves -- we finished up as an 8-8 team. And we did basically nothing to upgrade the obvious weakness, which was offense.

They gave us props for our D, so there's that. But we're counting on the very same players who gave us an offense that got outscored by the Lions -- hoping that just some more time with the playbook will make all the difference.

I figure we're in for another 8-8 season, maybe 9-7 if things really fall into place. The "experts" probably aren't that far off with those predictions unless our offense wakes the hell up and gives us something we can't even imagine.

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The experts take last year's standings and basically rinse and repeat. Does anyone go out on a limb anymore?

Skins 10-6

Mark it down

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[quote=Beemnseven;582574]Well, let's be honest with ourselves -- we finished up as an 8-8 team. And we did basically nothing to upgrade the obvious weakness, which was offense.[/quote]

Im seeing this differently, I do think we upgraded, actually in several ways.

Dockery is one upgrade, along with Jansen being gone, hopefully Heyer can continue to improve. But I think the biggest upgrade would be the 2nd year development of the young 2nd rounders, along with JC being in the 2nd year of a system for the first time in a long time. I think sometimes no turnover is a good thing, the weapons are there, hopefully everyone can jell and make this year something special.

Im gonna go with 10-6, hail to the Redskins!

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Well let's break it down game-by-game (my predictions):

at NY Giants - Loss
St. Louis - Win
at Detroit - Win
Tampa Bay - Win
at Carolina - Win (flip a coin here w/ Delhomme vs our D)
Kansas City - Win
Philadelphia - Win
at Atlanta - Loss
Denver - Win
at Dallas - Loss
at Philadelphia - Loss
New Orleans - Loss
at Oakland - Win
NY Giants - Loss
Dallas - Win
at San Diego - Loss

That's put us at 9-7... starting 6-1, but finishing 3-6. Obviously, any of these games could go either way, but this is what my logic says in these games.

We lose the Carolina game, but win all of the other ones I said would put us at 8-8 just like the "experts" say.

Question is, if we finish 8-8, is Zorn our HC next year & is JC our QB next year?

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If they picked us to go 16-0 would it make any difference? I can see us going 11-5 / 12-4 just as easy as 8-8. A lot depends on how the o-line holds up and whether the receivers keep progressing.

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The offensive line is what really worries me. Looks like the stab in the dark that was Mike Williams isn't going to work out. And while Dockery is younger, does he really present an upgrade over what we had with Pete Kendall?

You just cannot dismiss the wear and tear these guys take going into November and December.

8-8 won't save Zorn's job, and unless JC has a Pro Bowl year, both of them are as good as done in Washington.

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[quote=roth74va;582580]Im seeing this differently, I do think we upgraded, actually in several ways.

Dockery is one upgrade, along with Jansen being gone, hopefully Heyer can continue to improve. [B]But I think the biggest upgrade would be the 2nd year development of the young 2nd rounders,[/B] along with JC being in the 2nd year of a system for the first time in a long time. I think sometimes no turnover is a good thing, the weapons are there, hopefully everyone can jell and make this year something special.

Im gonna go with 10-6, hail to the Redskins![/quote]

Well, we haven't exactly seen that yet.

Yes, they seem to be more involved this preseason. But if Kelly or Thomas can't supplant Randle Friggin' El, then we're back to square one.

So the point remains, we're counting on the same guys who couldn't produce last year to find another gear that nobody's seen.

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[quote=mooby;582562]There used to be a point in time where I'd get upset about this, but this is par for the course as the season previews for the Skins go so it's no biggie. [B]I'll be content to let our play on the field do the talking for better or worse.[/B][/quote]

It's not like you've got much choice.

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i really feel that there are two areas that will determine whether we win or lose. Those areas being offensive line play and defensive secondary play. J. Campbell has proven last year and this preseason that with time he can make all the throws. We can't give up big plays in the secondary we have upgraded our defensive line and Orapko & Haynesworth should wreak havoc on QB's this season.

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[quote=Beemnseven;582590]The offensive line is what really worries me. Looks like the stab in the dark that was Mike Williams isn't going to work out. And while Dockery is younger, does he really present an upgrade over what we had with Pete Kendall?

You just cannot dismiss the wear and tear these guys take going into November and December.

8-8 won't save Zorn's job, and unless JC has a Pro Bowl year, both of them are as good as done in Washington.[/quote]

Well so far the offensive line had held its own against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England. And although this was preseason, well this situation is better than them being completely killed in the preseason. Durability should be a concern, but I think we should take into consideration that our back ups are more experienced and could potentially replace some of the older linemen.

While I will be realistic and say that if JC or Zorn don't produce they will most likely be gone, here is the other side of that coin....

Zorn and Campbell's success in the next season could translate into success for the team in the next couple of years. Think about this:
- We have a talented bunch of young receivers (Kelly, Mitchell, Davis, and Thomas)
- Two talented young defensive ends (Orakpo and Jarmon)
- A young secondary (Hall, Landry, Horton, and Barnes...maybe Tryon)
- We have a couple of veterans in their late 20s who could contribute at a top level well into their mid 30s (Haynesworth, Rogers, Rocky, Cooley, and maybe Portis)

With a good draft next year of LBs and offensive lineman, our team could be set for the next 5 or 6 years. My point in all of this is that the team has been building throught the draft over the past two/three years. And Jason Campbell's success this season is key to our team. Should Jason fail next season, we are looking at starting once again with a new starting QB, and wasting away some good seasons while a new QB develops (unless the team happens to get lucky and pick up a veteran that can pick things up right away).

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Let's let the season play itself out, cause last year the Titans weren't expected to do much, and for a while they ended up being one of the best teams in the league

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[quote=Beemnseven;582592]Well, we haven't exactly seen that yet.

Yes, they seem to be more involved this preseason. But if Kelly or Thomas can't supplant Randle Friggin' El, then we're back to square one.

So the point remains, we're counting on the same guys who couldn't produce last year to find another gear that nobody's seen.[/quote]

Wasn't the team pretty good before the O line started falling apart? Even if the talent was exactly the same as last year, as long as the O line stays healthy, Samuels in particular, the Skins should at least be as good as they were during the 6-2 start.

And if the Defense is better and gets more turnovers and sacks and actually scores every now and again, the Offense will benefit and the points per game will go up. If the Skins averaged 3-5 points per game last year, they would have been in the playoffs. The Offense only needs to be marginally better then they were last year, and even if they're only as good as they were during the 6-2 start, they're still a playoff team.

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I agree with the assessments, this is an 8-8 team. If they get some breaks they could get to 10 wins but if they stumble then they could only get to 6 wins. Either way, I think 8-8 is a pretty fair prediction.

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[quote=Ruhskins;582624][B]Well so far the offensive line had held its own against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England. And although this was preseason, well this situation is better than them being completely killed in the preseason. Durability should be a concern[/B], but I think we should take into consideration that our back ups are more experienced and could potentially replace some of the older linemen.

While I will be realistic and say that if JC or Zorn don't produce they will most likely be gone, here is the other side of that coin....

Zorn and Campbell's success in the next season could translate into success for the team in the next couple of years. Think about this:
- We have a talented bunch of young receivers (Kelly, Mitchell, Davis, and Thomas)
- Two talented young defensive ends (Orakpo and Jarmon)
- A young secondary (Hall, Landry, Horton, and Barnes...maybe Tryon)
- We have a couple of veterans in their late 20s who could contribute at a top level well into their mid 30s (Haynesworth, Rogers, Rocky, Cooley, and maybe Portis)

With a good draft next year of LBs and offensive lineman, our team could be set for the next 5 or 6 years. My point in all of this is that the team has been building throught the draft over the past two/three years. And Jason Campbell's success this season is key to our team. Should Jason fail next season, we are looking at starting once again with a new starting QB, and wasting away some good seasons while a new QB develops (unless the team happens to get lucky and pick up a veteran that can pick things up right away).[/quote]

I'm not concerned about skill with the O-line. As you said, the issue is durability. I just think it's a huge roll of the dice to assume good health with these guys going into the last quarter of the season. And the backups? Rinehart, Bridges, Mike Williams (assuming he even makes the cut), and anyone else who makes the final roster are big, big question marks. If we have to depend on any of them we're cooked.

I agree about the apparent infusion of youth at the other spots though.

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[quote=44Deezel;582648]Wasn't the team pretty good before the O line started falling apart? Even if the talent was exactly the same as last year, as long as the O line stays healthy, Samuels in particular, the Skins should at least be as good as they were during the 6-2 start.

And if the Defense is better and gets more turnovers and sacks and actually scores every now and again, the Offense will benefit and the points per game will go up. If the Skins averaged 3-5 points per game last year, they would have been in the playoffs. The Offense only needs to be marginally better then they were last year, and even if they're only as good as they were during the 6-2 start, they're still a playoff team.[/quote]

See above with regard to the health of the O-line. But no, I don't agree that if the rest of the talent stays the same, we'll be just fine. We MUST get help from Thomas and Kelly. Moss, Cooley, and Randle El just aren't enough to get the job done through the air. They have to be more than "marginally better". Even during the 6-2 run we weren't exactly a scoring machine.

Defensively, yes, we bet the house on Haynesworth and Orakpo to add the missing dimension of quarterback pressure. All I'm going to say is that they better be as good as advertised.

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[quote=GTripp0012;582561]I don't remember much about La Canfora's predictive ability in the past, but it's worth pointing out that this group is made up of JLC and four guys who don't know 1/3 as much about the Redskins as JLC does.[/quote]

Or most of us around here.

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I think the line between a 8-8 team and a 12-4 team is pretty thin. Mostly I think that line is made up of experience, chemistry and confidence. It takes one good season to start putting those three things together. We have talent to win 12 games (healthy). We're probably an 8-8 type team though. We could also fold up and win 4 games. It really comes down to just doing it.

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[quote=Mattyk72;582575]The experts take last year's standings and basically rinse and repeat. Does anyone go out on a limb anymore?

Skins 10-6

Mark it down[/quote]

agreed....I've looked over there schedule numerous times and came up with this optimistic assessment

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I'm still amazed that some don't see Dockery as an upgrade over Kendall, who at 36 is still a serviceable lineman, but he's also one with arthritic knees and is undersized at 285. Dockery gives us much needed beef up front and he's definitely an upgrade in my book.

While no big moves on offense were made that doesn't mean there won't be any improvements this year. The continued development of Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Heyer is what is going to pay dividends, and of course JC finally having a 2nd season in the same system should reap some benefits as well.

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[quote=Beemnseven;582574]Well, let's be honest with ourselves -- we finished up as an 8-8 team. And we did basically nothing to upgrade the obvious weakness, which was offense.

They gave us props for our D, so there's that. But we're counting on the very same players who gave us an offense that got outscored by the Lions -- hoping that just some more time with the playbook will make all the difference.

I figure we're in for another 8-8 season, maybe 9-7 if things really fall into place. The "experts" probably aren't that far off with those predictions unless our offense wakes the hell up and gives us something we can't even imagine.[/quote]

Exactly. 8-8 last year. No real changes to the offense which was dreadful last year. Yes, we're hoping some young players step up, but that's hoping at this point. We're hoping JC turns into a top level QB, but that's hoping.

I think we could be better than that, but if I were a non skins fan i would most likely predict 8-8 too.

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[quote=Mattyk72;582670]I'm still amazed that some don't see Dockery as an upgrade over Kendall, who at 36 is still a serviceable lineman, but he's also one with arthritic knees and is undersized at 285. Dockery gives us much needed beef up front and he's definitely an upgrade in my book.

While no big moves on offense were made that doesn't mean there won't be any improvements this year. The continued development of Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Heyer is what is going to pay dividends, and of course JC finally having a 2nd season in the same system should reap some benefits as well.[/quote]

I absolutely agree with this post. Didn't Kendall have to take Wed practices off? Not saying he was not good at his position, but if Samuels, Dockery, and Rabach practice together every day, the cohesiveness of the unit has to improve, imo.

Also, our 2nd year players have shown very good signs this preseason, so we should see good things there. I really think that our schedule gives us another advantage. After the Giants, we play a lot of teams that will likely not be contenders. This will give our team more time to get "on the same page". It should almost be like a real-time pre-season.

On my wishful days, I would hope we could blow out the Lions and Rams and Chiefs, and be resting some of our starters, like Samuels, Haynesworth, and CP some in the 4th quarters. I know blowout and Redskins hasn't been very synonymous recently. But I hope so.

I think we should be no less then 5-2 at our bye, and I hope maybe even a little bit rested.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;582629]Let's let the season play itself out, cause last year the Titans weren't expected to do much, and for a while they ended up being one of the best teams in the league[/quote]

Yea, and at one point last year we were one of the best teams in theNFL.

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[quote=redsk1;582678]Exactly. 8-8 last year. No real changes to the offense which was dreadful last year. [B]Yes, we're hoping some young players step up, but that's hoping at this point.[/B] We're hoping JC turns into a top level QB, but that's hoping.

I think we could be better than that, but if I were a non skins fan i would most likely predict 8-8 too.[/quote]

I would say it's more than just hope with the younger guys. I'm sure Zorn and the coaches are expecting the young guys to step up and contribute. I'm expecting it to happen too.

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[quote=Mattyk72;582670]I'm still amazed that some don't see Dockery as an upgrade over Kendall, who at 36 is still a serviceable lineman, but he's also one with arthritic knees and is undersized at 285. Dockery gives us much needed beef up front and he's definitely an upgrade in my book.

While no big moves on offense were made that doesn't mean there won't be any improvements this year. The continued development of Thomas, Kelly, Davis, and Heyer is what is going to pay dividends, and of course JC finally having a 2nd season in the same system should reap some benefits as well.[/quote]

This was my point exactly, couple seasons ago and Dockery was the prize LG free agent. I like his run blocking more than anything, if he can just keep the penalties to a minimum I think he will return to his old form. As for the receivers, we have no where to go but up. We know they contributed pretty much ZIPPY last year, so anything we get from them will be more. Receivers are notorious slow starters in the NFL, its just the way it is. Campbell being in the same system is huge IMO, having familiarity with an offensive scheme is vastly underrated. I dont know if we even ran some of those plays we saw against NE. And to build from this, Zorns playcalling should be improved as well. It seems like he is calling plays that do cater to JC's abilities, as others have mentioned. Overall....I agree its only a couple plays between 6-10 and 10-6, hopefully we can stay healthy.

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On the Dockery agruement. When Doc was here in his last stint with the Redskins, we had one of the best lines in football. Doc was a very important peice of that puzzle. One of the problems is still the age. None of our guys got any younger, but iwth that said I do believe that if we get out to another good start that the lessons learned after last years break down in the second half of the season will help the team.

I believe we will have a good football team this year. Last year before the collapse the team was ranked by all of the major Power pols in the top 5 from week 3- 8.

If we can keep this thing together and everybody steps up i see no reason why in a wide open NFC that we don't have a chance to be a major factor and contender for the NFC east title and beyond. This team has talent. I am very optpmistic and I like alot of what this team has done in the last few off-seasons. We are building depth and continuity. Let's get behind this football team, and not listen to all the guys who relly don't know what we are building here.

I can see us at 11-5 by years end. Hopefully 12-4. Realistic chance of this guys! HTTR!

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Punter/Holder is an upgrade....HOw many games did we put ourselves into bad situations at the end of games due to poor Special Teams....punting & field goals. I bet we lost 2 games because of it.

11-5 is my prediction...including Week 1 win over Giants!

What's up with Osi Uman...whatever and is walking out of practice....will he miss 1st week do to disipline?

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[quote=Ruhskins;582624]Well so far the offensive line had held its own against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England. And although this was preseason, well this situation is better than them being completely killed in the preseason. Durability should be a concern, but I think we should take into consideration that our back ups are more experienced and could potentially replace some of the older linemen.

While I will be realistic and say that if JC or Zorn don't produce they will most likely be gone, here is the other side of that coin....

Zorn and Campbell's success in the next season could translate into success for the team in the next couple of years. Think about this:
- We have a talented bunch of young receivers (Kelly, Mitchell, Davis, and Thomas)
- Two talented young defensive ends (Orakpo and Jarmon)
- A young secondary (Hall, Landry, Horton, and Barnes...maybe Tryon)
- We have a couple of veterans in their late 20s who could contribute at a top level well into their mid 30s (Haynesworth, Rogers, Rocky, Cooley, and maybe Portis)

With a good draft next year of LBs and offensive lineman, our team could be set for the next 5 or 6 years. My point in all of this is that the team has been building throught the draft over the past two/three years. And Jason Campbell's success this season is key to our team. Should Jason fail next season, we are looking at starting once again with a new starting QB, and wasting away some good seasons while a new QB develops (unless the team happens to get lucky and pick up a veteran that can pick things up right away).[/quote]

Good post Ruh!
I was thinking some of the same things; that the team is essentially under construction. Call it rebuilding or whatever, I think Vinny has a 3-4 year plan. This is year 2. I think 2010 will be when Vinny's plan sinks or swims. By then some of the young guys should be starters & JC (if he's here) will be a reliable qb.

I know it's easy to speculate that Zorn will be gone by year's end if the team doesn't make the playoffs, etc., but I think Zorn stays if he's in the 7 to 9 win range, playoffs or not. I think Vinny will lobby that he needs Zorn to remain in order for his plan to come to fruition. In 2010, LBs & O linemen like you said, will be priority in the draft. Also, the uncapped year possibility, that adds another dimension.

I can't disagree too much w/the "expert" picks. 8-8 is very fair since that was our record last year. They should at least point out that last in the nfc east is like 1st in the AFC west.

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I think it's funny that the "experts" slam the Skins every year for the off-season Superbowl comments, but when we rely on program development, and players improving in our system, the comment is that we didn't "do anything" to improve those areas. Its one of those no-win situations. I doubt any moves we could have made would have changed our supposed position in the division.

I personally think we should be a 10+ win team, and at the bye we will be leading the division.

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[quote=Mattyk72;582682]I would say it's more than just hope with the younger guys. I'm sure Zorn and the coaches are expecting the young guys to step up and contribute. I'm expecting it to happen too.[/quote]

I think Thomas and Kelly should be MUCH improved this year. I too expect them to be much better. They are however unproven in games. So right now, we're hoping they bring it in the regular season. Stating the obvious here but they + the oline are keys to this offense.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;582735][B]I think it's funny that the "experts" slam the Skins every year for the off-season Superbowl comments, but when we rely on program development, and players improving in our system, the comment is that we didn't "do anything" to improve those areas. Its one of those no-win situations. I doubt any moves we could have made would have changed our supposed position in the division.[/B]

I personally think we should be a 10+ win team, and at the bye we will be leading the division.[/quote]

Correctamundo on the "no-win" situation. The only way to change that is to win on the field. I think we'll do that this year at least 10 times.

Bring on the New York Dwarfs! HTTR!

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[quote=Ruhskins;582624]Well so far the offensive line had held its own against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England. And although this was preseason, well this situation is better than them being completely killed in the preseason. Durability should be a concern, but I think we should take into consideration that our back ups are more experienced and could potentially replace some of the older linemen.

While I will be realistic and say that if JC or Zorn don't produce they will most likely be gone, here is the other side of that coin....

Zorn and Campbell's success in the next season could translate into success for the team in the next couple of years. Think about this:
- We have a talented bunch of young receivers (Kelly, Mitchell, Davis, and Thomas)
- Two talented young defensive ends (Orakpo and Jarmon)
- A young secondary (Hall, Landry, Horton, and Barnes...maybe Tryon)
- We have a couple of veterans in their late 20s who could contribute at a top level well into their mid 30s (Haynesworth, Rogers, Rocky, Cooley, and maybe Portis)

With a good draft next year of LBs and offensive lineman, our team could be set for the next 5 or 6 years. My point in all of this is that the team has been building throught the draft over the past two/three years. And Jason Campbell's success this season is key to our team. Should Jason fail next season, we are looking at starting once again with a new starting QB, and wasting away some good seasons while a new QB develops (unless the team happens to get lucky and pick up a veteran that can pick things up right away).[/quote]

Ahhh, wasting away good teams w/ an under performing qb. Reminds me of the MB days. Super Bowl caliber D, but couldn't move the damn ball.

I think JC is going to be fine this year, then it's decision time for VC.

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I really honestly can not get over the fact that some/most of the Redskin fans here really think we are better than what these guys have said. Look back and we haven't done anything to justify someone calling our names in the playoff picture. We have made the playoffs twice in the last 10 years, and took to miraculous runs at the end of the season to make it. Every year we are around 7-9, or 8-8. We have HUGE question marks at QB and receivers, and the O-line. Stop being delusional and look at it realistically for once. Dallas may be over hyped a bit, but their QB play is going to be better, the one two punch with Barber and Jones is pretty damn good. They have questions at receiver, but the D should be decent. The Giants are the Giants. Good running game, QB play, and very good O-Line and excellent D Line, and probably have one of the better D's in the league. The Eagles have one of the best playmakers in Westbrook (if healthy) and two explosive WR and good TE, plus McNabb. I would say 3rd or 4th in the division is a fair assesment, that is until we start playing consistant football every year.