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Skinny Tee 08-28-2009 01:07 AM

We Want Vick!
 
I don't know if anyone got to see the Philly vs. Jags game but Philly fans were chanting "We want Vick" in the 3rd quarter after McNabb threw an interception.

NFL Network showed the game later in the night at 11pm. The eagles made some bad errors and a ton of mistakes in their most important game of the preseason...it was awesome.


Did anybody get to see this? What'd you think of the eagles output and the supposed "threat" of Vick.

...BTW...Vick is going to be on the sideline a lot in this offense and I just don't see how he is going to come in, blow the doors off of the NFL and then go back out and sit on the sideline...especially during the late fall and winter.

skindeep 08-28-2009 01:43 AM

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I caught the game. The I beleave the tried kind of hard to put him in the game. What was up with the swapping of McNabb and Vick that wont work against the NFC EAST maybe all the other divisions. He still has an arm with the one pass he completed that I seen, I didn't get to see him run but there something still there. McNabb F-up lobbing for Vick first sighn of non production from McNabb Philly fans will be chanting for Vick like earlier. I beleave you have to have your QB in the game all game to get a rythem, NO swapping out to try to confuse or scare the other team. So I guess it's all wait and see.

Luxorreb 08-28-2009 04:21 AM

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Vick will be the starter by seasons end.

joethiesmanfan 08-28-2009 07:08 AM

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Swapping won't work against Haynesworth and Orakpo but it will work against Dallas HAhahahahahahaha!

#56fanatic 08-28-2009 07:23 AM

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There is no way they are swapping QB's during the season. You people get too caught up in preseason. they were giving Vick some time with the starters, to get in the flow, play at real speed. He may play some in the wildcat, but McNabb is the QB of the Eagles. I dont see Vick doing anything but watching this season. Next season may be a different story.

MTK 08-28-2009 08:13 AM

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Didn't take long for those Vick chants huh? God Philly fans are dumb.

Hog1 08-28-2009 08:23 AM

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This could be REAL entertaining! Something else for Philly fans to.....torture McNabb with and derail the team

CRedskinsRule 08-28-2009 08:32 AM

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I thought more important was how poorly the Philly Oline protected McNabb on the first few possessions. The rushers were in the backfield nearly as soon as the play started.

I did find one Vick/McNabb play comical. McNabb lined up under center, Vick spread out to the left. [B]Not one Jag covers Vick[/B], McNabb handed off to McCoy who was stopped, and then faked the pass out to Vick. In a real game it might have set up a flea flicker, but I found it funny that the Jags didn't think it worth covering him.

dmek25 08-28-2009 08:33 AM

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he could be used in a way to have a good impact for the eagles. but i see a T.O like implosion coming

FRPLG 08-28-2009 08:49 AM

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[quote=dmek25;580768]he could be used in a way to have a good impact for the eagles. but i see a T.O like implosion coming[/quote]

I think he'll mind his Ps and Qs pretty well. He is looking to cash in so he has to be good both playing and behavior wise. The problem that exists is that Philly fans make Redskins fans look reasoned and focused. The implosion that is coming is going to be from the OTHER QB. If McNabb thought it was bad after they drafted Kolb and everyone decided his days were numbered, just wait. Now they have a potentially dynamic offensive weapon who has happened to win games playing the QB position before. That plus neurotic fans, and a thin-skinned attitude could b pretty caustic. Of course they could simply play well and everything would be fine but one hint of underachieving and the whole deal could get pretty ugly.

Jay Schroeder 08-28-2009 08:57 AM

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Does anyone remember when Denver tried this bullshit with Tommy Maddox and Shawn Moore? They would alternate every other play...dumbest thing I ever saw...I was like ten years old and was like wtf are they doing.

skinsfan69 08-28-2009 09:16 AM

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McNabb had to know that this had the chance of blowing up in his face. He already started crying to the coaches about it on the sidelines cause it messed up the offense. You made your bed so lie in it. lol.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 08-28-2009 09:42 AM

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A poised Vck would be deadly in a west coast scheme, um!! If remains patiently in the pocket and scans the field before using his speed he will have good second half career in the NFL. If he improves this year and show flashes of the Old Vick then I just don't see Mr. Snyder not try to sign him next offseason unless he replaces McNabb in the second half of this season. He looked good for someone who has been away from the game for 2 1/2 years.

Monkeydad 08-28-2009 10:12 AM

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[quote=dmek25;580768]he could be used in a way to have a good impact for the eagles. but i see a T.O like implosion coming[/quote]

As do I.


McNabb already resents the competition. While he was correct that the offense had no rhythm while Dogkiller was on the field, in the 2nd quarter on the sidelines after a "discussion" with #7, he actually made the "slash throat" motion to the offensive coordinator and got his competition benched after 6 plays on the field. He did not even deny it after the game.

The fans are turning on McNabb earlier than I thought. I'm going to love watching them fight Dallas for last place.

Monkeydad 08-28-2009 10:14 AM

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;580784]Does anyone remember when Denver tried this bullshit with Tommy Maddox and Shawn Moore? They would alternate every other play...dumbest thing I ever saw...I was like ten years old and was like wtf are they doing.[/quote]

When I was 10 years old, I was asking "wtf is Jay Schroeder doing?"

dmek25 08-28-2009 10:36 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;580777]I think he'll mind his Ps and Qs pretty well. He is looking to cash in so he has to be good both playing and behavior wise. The problem that exists is that Philly fans make Redskins fans look reasoned and focused. The implosion that is coming is going to be from the OTHER QB. If McNabb thought it was bad after they drafted Kolb and everyone decided his days were numbered, just wait. Now they have a potentially dynamic offensive weapon who has happened to win games playing the QB position before. That plus neurotic fans, and a thin-skinned attitude could b pretty caustic. Of course they could simply play well and everything would be fine but one hint of underachieving and the whole deal could get pretty ugly.[/quote]
i agree with buster. the implosion coming from within. not Vick, but the big baby McNabb.

MTK 08-28-2009 10:37 AM

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[quote=Buster;580806]When I was 10 years old, I was asking "wtf is Jay Schroeder doing?"[/quote]

I can't believe we have people here named after Schroeder and Frerotte. :doh:

What's next... Friesz fan?

Monkeydad 08-28-2009 10:54 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;580823]I can't believe we have people here named after Schroeder and Frerotte. :doh:

What's next... Friesz fan?[/quote]

[B]IP ban if Heath Shuler shows up. [/B] I was just explaining to my wife how he ruined our lives for a few years when she saw his jersey when browsing for Skins items on eBay for our son.

Jay Schroeder 08-28-2009 10:55 AM

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haha....I know Schroeder sucked.....who gives a shit about a screen name though...

I think your just salty that I stated an opinion on JC and you seem to ride his package

mredskins 08-28-2009 10:57 AM

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Vick goes 4/4 in a pre-season game and he is basically crowned MVP for the season by the media. Good lord the media loves to build them up then tear them down again. For Vick this has happened many times.

mredskins 08-28-2009 11:02 AM

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[quote=Buster;580840][B]IP ban if Heath Shuler shows up. [/B]I was just explaining to my wife how he ruined our lives for a few years when she saw his jersey when browsing for Skins items on eBay for our son.[/quote]


I still wear his jersey to games. People get the biggest kick out of it. I always say hey I just want to show I have not been around just for the good times, though there has not been many good times since 91.

Good bless the Skins fan who came on board after say 95 and is still a fan. I at least can remeber back in my spank bank to the SB wins when times are really though. What do the post 95 fan hang on to? The B-Mitch run back in the Tampa Bay playoff game?

MTK 08-28-2009 11:03 AM

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;580842]haha....I know Schroeder sucked.....who [B]gives a shit about a screen name though[/B]...

I think your just salty that I stated an opinion on JC and you seem to ride his package[/quote]

Well it represents who you are on the board, so are you saying you suck too?? Just find it odd to name yourself after a mediocre QB, and one that his teammates generally hated.

As for your comments on JC I could care less. I don't keep track of who says what, nor am I that petty to rag on you based on your opinion. Again, I'm not keeping score.

CRedskinsRule 08-28-2009 11:05 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;580851]Well it represents who you are on the board, so are you saying you suck too?? Just find it odd to name yourself after a mediocre QB, and one that his teammates generally hated.

As for your comments on JC I could care less. I don't keep track of who says what, nor am I that petty to rag on you based on your opinion. Again, I'm not keeping score.[/quote]

Matty 1 Jay Schroeder 0

Jay Schroeder 08-28-2009 11:08 AM

Re: We Want Vick!
 
touche

Yeah...Im saying I suck...I have total self loathing issues...

the name does get me nostalgic for the first Gibbs era in general...I guess the choice may have been a half assed attempt at showing that...

but in Schroeders defense...he showed the same level of talent that Campbell has thus far

tdSKINS1 08-28-2009 11:10 AM

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Despite what a lot of you all said earlier about my threads about Vick the Eagles got a steal here. He is an incredible athlete and is still very capable of being a starter in this league. Can anyone sit here and tell me the 49'rs, the Browns, the Bills, the Bucs, i could go on have better QB's then Vick. I have said it from the beginningt that we should have got him when he was available. We talk about Colt Brennan and Chase Daniels and even Todd Collins being back ups.. when Mike could have came in and could have been a solid if not great back up to Jason immediately.

Lotus 08-28-2009 11:11 AM

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Cut Campbell and bring back Heath Shuler!

Skinny Tee 08-28-2009 11:14 AM

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[quote=mredskins;580844]Vick goes 4/4 in a pre-season game and he is basically crowned MVP for the season by the media. Good lord the media loves to build them up then tear them down again. For Vick this has happened many times.[/quote]

And 2 of those throws were option shuffle passes to RB's and the third was a screen pass. Hardly the stat I thought it was when I saw it previewed on FOX's Thursday night game.

I still contend that he is going to be in no shape to be able to recapture his previous breakaway speed and agility.

D Mac and the eagles are talking about keeping D-Coor's up at night with Vick in the lineup...Please...Vick has to reprove himself before I would start losing sleep over him being in the lineup.


I know what he used to do but what can he do now...He's not suiting up to play games on ESPN Classic.

skinsfan69 08-28-2009 11:20 AM

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Not to highjack this but I always wondered why Vick never became a real good passer. He's got that great release, kind of like a quick flick of the wrist and the ball gets there in a hurry. Always throws a spiral... like Warren Moon did. Maybe it was his work ethic.

mredskins 08-28-2009 11:21 AM

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[quote=Skinny Tee;580858]And 2 of those throws were option shuffle passes to RB's and the third was a screen pass. Hardly the stat I thought it was when I saw it previewed on FOX's Thursday night game.

I still contend that he is going to be in no shape to be able to recapture his previous breakaway speed and agility.

D Mac and the eagles are talking about keeping D-Coor's up at night with Vick in the lineup...Please...Vick has to reprove himself before I would start losing sleep over him being in the lineup.


I know what he used to do but what can he do now...He's not suiting up to play games on ESPN Classic.[/quote]

I agree and I was watching that games as well. It was like breaking news! Good lord.

Quick question to folks who watched that game in HD. Did you feel like the picture was skipping a bit when the game was in play? It did it on both my HD TV's. Really weird.

BringBackJoeT 08-28-2009 11:22 AM

Re: We Want Vick!
 
[quote=dmek25;580821]i agree with buster. [B]the implosion coming from within. not Vick, but the big baby McNabb[/B].[/quote]

. . . thus creating the possibility that Vick might actually look like the sympathetic character when it's all said and done. Good lord.

MTK 08-28-2009 11:25 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;580862]Not to highjack this but I always wondered why Vick never became a real good passer. He's got that great release, kind of like a quick flick of the wrist and the ball gets there in a hurry. Always throws a spiral... like Warren Moon did. Maybe it was his work ethic.[/quote]

Yeah he throws a tight spiral but his accuracy is lacking. Part of it probably has to do with poor footwork and mechanics.

Monkeydad 08-28-2009 11:27 AM

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;580853]touche

Yeah...Im saying I suck...I have total self loathing issues...

the name does get me nostalgic for the first Gibbs era in general...I guess the choice may have been a half assed attempt at showing that...

but in Schroeders defense...[B]he showed the same level of talent that Campbell has thus far[/B][/quote]

Sure you're not really Gus with the head damage?

Monkeydad 08-28-2009 11:28 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;580867]Yeah he throws a tight spiral but his accuracy is lacking. Part of it probably has to do with poor footwork and mechanics.[/quote]

Decision-making lacks also, check out his INT totals.

MTK 08-28-2009 11:40 AM

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[quote=Jay Schroeder;580853]touche

Yeah...Im saying I suck...I have total self loathing issues...

the name does get me nostalgic for the first Gibbs era in general...I guess the choice may have been a half assed attempt at showing that...

but in Schroeders defense...he showed the same level of talent that Campbell has thus far[/quote]

Well, at least JC isn't a d-bag that his teammates have no respect for.

ArtMonkDrillz 08-28-2009 11:44 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;580887]Well, at least JC isn't a d-bag that his teammates have no respect for.[/quote]But he does lack flowing golden locks, so that's a negative.

I think anyone who really believes that McNabb was lobbying to get Vick is kidding themselves. I know he said that, but he has always seemed like the most insecure player on the planet, which makes sense considering the way he was treated by the philly fans when they first drafted him.

Jay Schroeder 08-28-2009 11:53 AM

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[quote=Buster;580871]Sure you're not really Gus with the head damage?[/quote]

look at the stats, they're comparable except for completion percentage

Schroeder had a pro bowl year with the Raiders too

53Fan 08-28-2009 12:35 PM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;580893]But he does lack flowing golden locks, so that's a negative.

I think anyone who really believes that McNabb was lobbying to get Vick is kidding themselves. I know he said that, but he has always seemed like the most insecure player on the planet, which makes sense considering the way he was treated by the philly fans when they first drafted him.[/quote]

Supposedly he lobbied for T.O. too. Maybe they should just keep McNabb out of personell.

DBUCHANON101 08-28-2009 12:42 PM

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Dont know what youve got, till its gone. When McNabb leaves philly you can stick a fork in em. Vick is all legs,never has he been a great passer. Roddy White was considered a bust until he got a REAL QB to get him the ball. Now he is one of the best in his div.

joethiesmanfan 08-28-2009 12:56 PM

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Schroeder was Schroeder premature balding with a strong arm. I remember them days

mredskins 08-28-2009 01:09 PM

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He looks old now!

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