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brent 06-24-2009 05:03 PM

Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
Haynesworth says the Bucs offered him more $$$$ than Washington and the Giants offered him a deal that would've made him highest paid defender in nfl.

GridIron26 06-24-2009 05:05 PM

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I think I would be surprised if it's actually true?

brent 06-24-2009 05:18 PM

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At least he's not a Giant!

MTK 06-24-2009 05:22 PM

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What else did he have to say?

SmootSmack 06-24-2009 05:32 PM

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Didn't he say that stuff about the Bucs months ago, when he first signed?

stu_nna 06-24-2009 05:41 PM

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is there any way to hear this?

dan_snyder69 06-24-2009 08:25 PM

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I believe him. He probably knew he would get taken care of better here when it comes time to restructure and whatnot, due to Snyder's generosity and the front office's relationship with his agent.

SC Skins Fan 06-24-2009 09:07 PM

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[quote=dan_snyder69;564556]I believe him. He probably knew he would get taken care of better here when it comes time to restructure and whatnot, due to Snyder's generosity and the front office's relationship with his agent.[/quote]

No one offered more guaranteed money than Washington. Not a chance. No matter what the contract numbers "said" Washington offered the most real money.

Schneed10 06-24-2009 09:19 PM

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;564559]No one offered more guaranteed money than Washington. Not a chance. No matter what the contract numbers "said" Washington offered the most real money.[/quote]

Exactly.

The $41 million guaranteed was the magic number. Neither the Bucs nor the Giants topped that one.

WaldSkins 06-24-2009 09:41 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;564541]Didn't he say that stuff about the Bucs months ago, when he first signed?[/quote]

Isn't Haynesworth the highest paid defensive player?

Giantone 06-25-2009 03:46 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;564533]I think I would be surprised if it's actually true?[/quote]


lol............me too.With the D Line the Giants have ,you pay him that type money you lose everyone else .............you couldn't aford it,not to an outsider.

MTK 06-25-2009 06:30 AM

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Jim Miller: Welcome to the show, everybody knows about the record contract, but tell us how are you settling-in in Washington after so many years in Tennessee?

Albert Haynesworth: It’s a good fit. Believe it or not I don’t have a ton of pressure on me with the new contract, I actually think there’s less pressure on me now than when I was still in Tennessee

Adam Schein: You’re telling me you had more pressure in Tennessee than in Washington with the 100-Million Dollar Contract!

Albert Haynesworth: Yeah, I’ll try to explain it to people in a way they can understand so here goes. I compare it to elementary school grades 1st-2nd grades vs. 4th - 5th grade. When you are young and the biggest kid in the grade, when you do stuff there’s no flexibility because you stand out; but when you get older and some of the other kids start catching up to your size, some of the stuff you do goes under the radar. Nobody holds the stuff you did in 2nd grade against you because you have changes. It’s like getting a fresh start.

Adam Schein: Was it a situation where everything ran it’s course in Tennessee? Was it time to leave Tennessee?

Albert Haynesworth: Yes it was (time to leave Tennessee). It was time for me to go and get a clean slate and show people what I can do elsewhere.

Jim Miller: How do you not feel the need to live up to the hefty contract?

Albert Haynesworth: I tell people the contract is good, but I have to live up to the contract that is the expectations I set for myself.

Adam Schein: Was the money an issue and why you went to Washington?

Albert Haynesworth: No! I had more on the table in Tampa. They offered a lot more money, but Washington had some things I was more comfortable with. For instance they have a large media aspect that can set you up for life after football. Also Tampa doesn’t have a huge fan base like Washington does, so it wasn’t that hard of a choice to make in the end.

Adam Schein: Were the Giants ever in it (to acquire your services)?

Albert Haynesworth: Yes they were for a while, they were willing to make me the highest paid player in the NFL, but not to the extent that Tampa and Washington were offering. Atlanta was in there, but the Vick dead-money situation hurt them, and Denver was in there, but I wasn’t sure about the new regime there.

Jim Miller: Is Tennessee still upset about how fast you signed. I mean, I see that they filed some papers with the League regarding tampering. Why are they mad? Is it because you just wanted to leave?

Albert Haynesworth: It’s not really that (tampering). I made the decision that it was just best for me to move on. I’m not a Titan anymore and I can’t speak to what the Titans are thinking. I’m happy being a Redskin. I’m not sure how disappointed they are that I left because they had an opportunity to sign me for over a year leading up to me leaving and they only discussed a contract once over that entire period of time. It seems like now that I’ve left they just want to get something out of me for leaving. They’re trying to get a draft pick from Washington because I left. That’s not right!

(Interjection/Schein): Wait a minute, there’s an elephant in the room. Our callers wouldn’t let me live it down if I didn’t ask the burning question: How did Haynesworth get all these offers within 24 hours of the start of free agency without tampering occurring.

Albert Haynesworth: It went like this- The Redskins called first, then the Giants, then Tampa, then Denver. Washington, the Giants and Tampa all made offers within the first two hours. Denver never offered a contract. They just wanted me to keep them in the loop.

Jim Miller: What about Detroit, you would have been the perfect fit for their Defense and they have Jim Schwartz:

Albert Haynesworth: I was with Schwartz for 7 years, but Detroit din’t show interest. It’s funny because Jim used to joke that if he got a job within the next year, I would get a call, but nothing came of that.

Adam Schein: We had a few callers that wanted us to ask why it seems like Albert Haynesworth only plays big when he has something to prove or a big payday on the line.

Albert Haynesworth: I always feel I have something to prove. Look at my stats. I always feel I have something to prove. I get better each year. I can say I don’t care about the money, but it wouldn’t make sense because I just signed the huge deal. My goal is to go out there and beat the man in front of me each down to demonstrate that I am the best player in the league. I want to be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer.

After the Dallas situation with Gerrode, I wanted to prove I was a better person for my family and my kids. I know what people were saying and what situation I created by doing that. I just don’t want them to think of me like that. That’s important to me. People change throughout life. I just changed after that.

Jim Miller: I know Greg Blache. He won’t let any body rest on their laurels. What is your take on him?

Albert Haynesworth: Me and Blache have been working together on how he will implement me in his scheme. We run a lot of the same stuff that I ran in Tennessee. They aren’t set in their ways. We are both showing each other new things. And we’re going to see how we can both incorporate what we do to benefit the defense as a whole. It’s a good thing, we have a good marriage.

Adam Schein: How good can the Redskins be? I think WAS is still ranked 4/4 due to the division they play in.

Albert Haynesworth: I can see why a person would say that because this is the toughest division in football. I can’t promise anything, but we have some good players. We just have to play our game and get comfortable with each other. I think we’ll be OK when we do that. They were a good team last year with a strong defense.

Jim Miller: Can Kyle Vanden Boch (sp) be a Pro Bowler again without your presence?

Albert Haynesworth: I don’t know, I took on a lot of doubles, but who knows? It’ll all depend on how they adapt to the schemes changing against them without me in there. The AFC South is a tough division.

Adam Schein: So Peyton’s thrilled to have you out of the Divison?


Albert Haynesworth: Sure! he knows I was the guy he had to worry about. He knows the Titans have a good team, but I was the single player they were looking at.

Adam Schein: Is it possible to replace Albert Haynesworth?

Albert Haynesworth: I never look at myself as irreplaceable; I don’t know what they think. I know I want to make my presence in Washington feel like Albert Haynesworth can’t be replaced

Jim Miller: Can Vince Young have his career reestablished in Tennessee?


Albert Haynesworth: Could he….. He’s a friend of mine, but I just don’t see it happening in Tennessee. Probably not! I know that organization and I played in Tennessee for a long time. I just don’t know!

Jim Miller: Is he mentally-tough enough to rebound?


Albert Haynesworth: I don’t know. He’s a passionate guy. He competes really hard, but he’s emotional. The guy refused to go back into a game, and then he gets hurt the next time he plays. The fans started getting all over him. The fans can make or break you in a place.

Adam Schein: Why didn’t you and Jeff Fisher enjoy a special relationship? He’s a defensive minded coach and you’re one of the best defensive players in the league.

Albert Haynesworth: I can’t say why we didn’t have a special relationship. There wasn’t a problem though. I just don’t know. He was alright.

Jim Miller: A lot is being made about some players relationship with the coach in Washington, how is your relationship with Jim Zorn?

Albert Haynesworth: Jim Zorn is just a cool guy. I’ve talked to him more times since I came here than I talked to coach Fisher the whole 7 years I was in Tennessee. It’s just a different situation here in Washington. I mean I never talked to Bud Adams (owner) either, but I’ve talked to Mr. Snyder a number of times already. He’s really cool.

Adam Schein: Talk about that relationship with the Tennessee front office:

I don’t know, it’s just different. In Tennessee I never talked to the GM, but I’ve already had a few conversations with Vinny. It’s not even about football all the time, we talk about life in general.

Jim Miller: You know that Honeymoon can wear off quick?


Albert Haynesworth: I know. At first I thought everything was all-good because I was the new guy, but then you talk to the players that have been around Washington for a while and they’re all like “Nah, this is how it is around here.” Everything is just dofferent. I mean from the classroom to the weight room, things are just different. When I was with the Titans I thought that environment was the best in the league based on conversations you have with other players around the league, but this atmosphere is great!

Adam Schein: Albert great stuff. Best of Luck in 2009! We look forward to seeing you at training camp.

53Fan 06-25-2009 07:51 AM

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I can't wait to see AH play for us. :woot:

BDBohnzie 06-25-2009 10:32 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;564593]Jim Miller: A lot is being made about some players relationship with the coach in Washington, how is your relationship with Jim Zorn?

Albert Haynesworth: Jim Zorn is just a cool guy. I’ve talked to him more times since I came here than I talked to coach Fisher the whole 7 years I was in Tennessee. It’s just a different situation here in Washington. I mean I never talked to Bud Adams (owner) either, but I’ve talked to Mr. Snyder a number of times already. He’s really cool.

Adam Schein: Talk about that relationship with the Tennessee front office:

I don’t know, it’s just different. In Tennessee I never talked to the GM, but I’ve already had a few conversations with Vinny. It’s not even about football all the time, we talk about life in general.[/quote]
To me, this stands out. He seems very genuine that he wants to be here and to play ball. I still worry about what he'll bring (as far as work ethic and taking plays off, etc) but it seems that he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder to prove he's only getting better and better.

skinsfan69 06-25-2009 11:39 AM

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Still in the honeymoon phase. But good to hear that the vibe around Redskin Park isn't uptight.

firstdown 06-25-2009 12:08 PM

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[quote=stu_nna;564542]is there any way to hear this?[/quote]

Run out real quick and buy Sirius Radio.

Chico23231 06-25-2009 12:23 PM

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I just cant wait to see AH put Romo on his ass. Hopefully put Romo out for the year with his sissy pinky injury. Regardless of the money we pay him, if he can lead the Skins D into reoccurring playoff appearances I will be over the top thrilled. Now if we can just get him to play right tackle too hmmm......

NYCskinfan82 06-25-2009 12:46 PM

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He probably could play RT hahaha, enjoying my summer but can't wait for the season to start.

stu_nna 06-25-2009 03:35 PM

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Great to hear AH is happy to be in Washington.

Hamoskinz 06-25-2009 03:51 PM

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Great interview. Glad to see AH is staying humble and bonding with the team, coaches and FO. Now, thats out of the way, time to show us the pocket-disruptiveness we signed him for.

Rajmahal33 06-25-2009 05:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;564593]Jim Miller: A lot is being made about some players relationship with the coach in Washington, how is your relationship with Jim Zorn?

Albert Haynesworth: Jim Zorn is just a cool guy. I’ve talked to him more times since I came here than I talked to coach Fisher the whole 7 years I was in Tennessee. It’s just a different situation here in Washington. I mean I never talked to Bud Adams (owner) either, but I’ve talked to Mr. Snyder a number of times already. He’s really cool.

Adam Schein: Talk about that relationship with the Tennessee front office:

I don’t know, it’s just different. In Tennessee I never talked to the GM, but I’ve already had a few conversations with Vinny. It’s not even about football all the time, we talk about life in general.

Jim Miller: You know that Honeymoon can wear off quick?


Albert Haynesworth: I know. At first I thought everything was all-good because I was the new guy, but then you talk to the players that have been around Washington for a while and they’re all like “Nah, this is how it is around here.” Everything is just dofferent. I mean from the classroom to the weight room, things are just different. When I was with the Titans I thought that environment was the best in the league based on conversations you have with other players around the league, but this atmosphere is great!

Adam Schein: Albert great stuff. Best of Luck in 2009! We look forward to seeing you at training camp.[/quote]

This little excerpt is pretty bothersome to me because i think this is why our front office seems incapable of making objective decisions. As heartless as Belicheck is, he runs a tight ship over there and has shown that he can make tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players. I'm not saying we have to do that here but the proof of that approach is in their on-field product. We can give any excuse(s) we want to but the Redskins have simply not gotten it done on the field in the Vinny Cerrato years (and i'm not blaming only him). Maybe a good reason for our failures is this "different" easy going culture we have in Ashburn.

Hate to be pessimistic here but I don't want the skins to be known as having a "great" lockerroom atmosphere if it means putting out a soft team on the field. I think the stigma in some player's minds is that its a free lunch on a redskins roster. You can't tell me that, for example, Jason Taylor really had the fire and passion that he had in Miami when he came here. It just raises some flags for me...

SmootSmack 06-25-2009 05:05 PM

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[quote=Rajmahal33;564663]This little excerpt is pretty bothersome to me because i think this is why our front office seems incapable of making objective decisions. As heartless as Belicheck is, he runs a tight ship over there and has shown that he can make tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players. I'm not saying we have to do that here but the proof of that approach is in their on-field product. We can give any excuse(s) we want to but the Redskins have simply not gotten it done on the field in the Vinny Cerrato years (and i'm not blaming only him). Maybe a good reason for our failures is this "different" easy going culture we have in Ashburn.

Hate to be pessimistic here but I don't want the skins to be known as having a "great" lockerroom atmosphere if it means putting out a soft team on the field. I think the stigma in some player's minds is that its a free lunch on a redskins roster. You can't tell me that, for example, Jason Taylor really had the fire and passion that he had in Miami when he came here. It just raises some flags for me...[/quote]

Are you saying the team can't make objective decisions because the atmosphere is too cordial?

stu_nna 06-25-2009 05:11 PM

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[quote=Rajmahal33;564663]This little excerpt is pretty bothersome to me because i think this is why our front office seems incapable of making objective decisions. As heartless as Belicheck is, he runs a tight ship over there and has shown that he can make tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players. I'm not saying we have to do that here but the proof of that approach is in their on-field product. We can give any excuse(s) we want to but the Redskins have simply not gotten it done on the field in the Vinny Cerrato years (and i'm not blaming only him). Maybe a good reason for our failures is this "different" easy going culture we have in Ashburn.

Hate to be pessimistic here but I don't want the skins to be known as having a "great" lockerroom atmosphere if it means putting out a soft team on the field. I think the stigma in some player's minds is that its a free lunch on a redskins roster. You can't tell me that, for example, Jason Taylor really had the fire and passion that he had in Miami when he came here. It just raises some flags for me...[/quote]
Our defense has never been "soft". This is not the NFC West we are playing in. Yes we've had our offensive woes, but that does not translate into a soft team. We are not even close.

Lotus 06-25-2009 05:21 PM

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[quote=Rajmahal33;564663]This little excerpt is pretty bothersome to me because i think this is why our front office seems incapable of making objective decisions. As heartless as Belicheck is, he runs a tight ship over there and has shown that he can make tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players. I'm not saying we have to do that here but the proof of that approach is in their on-field product. We can give any excuse(s) we want to but the Redskins have simply not gotten it done on the field in the Vinny Cerrato years (and i'm not blaming only him). Maybe a good reason for our failures is this "different" easy going culture we have in Ashburn.

Hate to be pessimistic here but I don't want the skins to be known as having a "great" lockerroom atmosphere if it means putting out a soft team on the field. I think the stigma in some player's minds is that its a free lunch on a redskins roster. You can't tell me that, for example, Jason Taylor really had the fire and passion that he had in Miami when he came here. It just raises some flags for me...[/quote]

I'm sorry but I beg to differ with your Belichick example. Yes, Belichick has made "tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players." But that does not mean that Belichick is distant from them. Plenty of former New England players have had nothing but nice things to say about him as a person. They say that in the locker room Belichick is much friendlier than his cold press conference persona might indicate. So, even though he makes "objective" personnel decisions, he is still friendly. Therefore, if New England is the desired standard, having a friendly and open atmosphere is not a problem.

Compare Mangini, who by all accounts is distant and perhaps sometimes rude to his players. Notice that he has a new job because he did not turn the Jets into strong contenders. Mangini would be an example of a "cold" locker room becoming dysfunctional.

As for Jason Taylor, by his own account he was hurt, didn't jell with the defensive scheme, didn't jell with Blache, and missed his family in Miami. These might be factors in what you perceive as his loss of competitiveness.

As for the Redskins making tough personnel decisions, there are many examples, including a recent one: Jon Jansen.

MTK 06-25-2009 07:22 PM

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People really can make something outta nothing.

53Fan 06-25-2009 07:29 PM

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All this time I thought we didn't have enough talent or we were changing coaches too often or maybe making some bad personell decisions. It never occured to me we haven't been to the Super Bowl since Snyder took over because the coach, GM, and owner were too approachable to the players. Interesting. :doh:

GMScud 06-26-2009 12:26 AM

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I hear what Rajmahal is saying. Players being buddy-buddy with the coaches and front office is a double-edged sword, IMO. It can improve the locker room and help with chemistry, and also add a sense of accountability in that the players may feel like mistakes are letting down not only teammates and coaches, but friends as well. On the flip side, there will always be guys who see an inch and take a mile, trying to slack off, screw around, or get away with whatever.

I have no idea if either of the above are happening, but as friendly and approachable as our staff and FO may be, I certainly hope they can stick a foot up someone's ass when necessary.

skins89moss 06-26-2009 01:50 AM

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[quote=Lotus;564667]I'm sorry but I beg to differ with your Belichick example. Yes, Belichick has made "tough decisions even at the cost of his closest players." But that does not mean that Belichick is distant from them. Plenty of former New England players have had nothing but nice things to say about him as a person. They say that in the locker room Belichick is much friendlier than his cold press conference persona might indicate. So, even though he makes "objective" personnel decisions, he is still friendly. Therefore, if New England is the desired standard, having a friendly and open atmosphere is not a problem.

Compare Mangini, who by all accounts is distant and perhaps sometimes rude to his players. Notice that he has a new job because he did not turn the Jets into strong contenders. Mangini would be an example of a "cold" locker room becoming dysfunctional.

As for Jason Taylor, by his own account he was hurt, didn't jell with the defensive scheme, didn't jell with Blache, and missed his family in Miami. These might be factors in what you perceive as his loss of competitiveness.

As for the Redskins making tough personnel decisions, there are many examples, including a recent one: Jon Jansen.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more.

53Fan 06-26-2009 07:33 AM

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As far as Belichick goes, I think his players like him and he has used the "us against the world" stategy very well. In a recent article on Tony Dungy, Tony recalled how Chuck Noll talked to his players about life as much as football. Seemed to work out pretty well for the Steelers. Dan may have made a mistake with his relationship with Arrington and Portis, but hey, he let Williams decide how to use Lavar and I think Zorn will be allowed to use Portis as he sees fit. When it comes down to it, the team means more to the coaches and management than individual players. Anyone who doesn't think so should ask Marcus, Daniels, or any of the guys who were released and only offered vet min. to return, or not offered anything at all.

Hamoskinz 06-26-2009 04:44 PM

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How about this one from ESPN's AFC South Blog. This guy Kuharsky sounds bitter as if he was the Titans GM. :hater:

[I][B]Interpreting Haynesworth talk on Titans[/B]

June 25, 2009 3:39 PM

Posted by ESPN.com's [B]Paul Kuharsky[/B]

Albert Haynesworth is a great interview because he's fearless. He doesn't worry what bosses or fans or friends or old friends will think. He gives an honest unfiltered answer.

But as with virtually anyone, his perspective is affected by who his friends are, where he is and who's showering him with money and affection.

In a Wednesday interview on "The Sirius Blitz" on SIRIUS NFL Radio Haynesworth talked about his former team.

Here is some of it from a transcript provided by Sirius, with my interpretations from more of a Titans perspective weaved in.

[B]Host, Adam Schein[/B]: "Was it a situation where everything just ran its course for you in Tennessee? Was it time for you to leave Tennessee?"

[B]Haynesworth[/B]: "Yeah, it was. It was. I'm kind of glad [we] didn't work out something there because it was really time for me to go and try to start this deal elsewhere and go out there and show how good I can play this game."

[B]Kuharsky's interpretation[/B]: When you get the money and affection he got, of course you're happy and saying good things about the new team and not so good things about the old team.

[B]Host, Jim Miller[/B]: "Can [the Titans] move on? Can you weigh in on whether Kyle Vanden Bosch can be a Pro Bowler again without your presence?"

[B]Haynesworth[/B]: "Honestly, I don't know. I don't know how it's going to affect them or whatever. I took a lot of his double teams and things like that, allowed him to get single blocked so it's going to be different watching them and how they adapt to that."

[B]Kuharsky's interpretation[/B]: He'd like to be missed and for the Titans to regret not trying harder to retain him, of course. If he plays well in Washington and they miss him in Tennessee, he smells like roses.

[B]Miller:[/B] "Can Vince Young resurrect his career? What was your perception as his teammate?"

[B]Haynesworth[/B]: "Vince is a really good friend of mine and everything, but I just don't see it happening in Tennessee. I think he has to go elsewhere and start elsewhere because I've been in that organization long enough and I know how kind of when you fall out of the good graces with certain people that you're not going to get back in it. I don't think they'll trade him because his cap number is too high, but he'll probably have to do his legacy elsewhere, which I definitely think he can because I think he's an awesome quarterback. He has amazing talent.

"He's a very passionate guy. He just loves to win and play the game. When things ain't going his way he's sitting on the sidelines trying to figure out himself. Now, all reports saying he refused to go back in the game and then he goes and gets hurt. I mean, that's not the case. They kind of blew it out [of proportion]...They can make or there or they can break you there. That's why I think it's time for him to go and start his career elsewhere and become that Hall of Fame quarterback that I know he can be."

[B]Kuharsky's interpretation[/B]: Players often seem to think that falling out of good graces is something personal. No one wanted/wants Young to pan out more than the Titans -- who invested a high pick and millions in him and look bad because he's on their bench. But it's his approach, growth pace and ineffectiveness that put him in whatever bad position he is with Tennessee brass.

Young undeniably asked out of the season opener in 2008 before he was injured. It's a fact. We mean media can make you and can break you, and we helped make Haynesworth the richest defender in football, but he forgot about that while answering this question.

Regarding his relationship with Titans head coach Jeff Fisher:

[B]Haynesworth[/B]: "I think it was OK. It was all right. You can say some good things; you can say some bad things. But I think it was OK. I don't hate the man."

[B]Kuharsky's interpretation[/B]: He's a bit bitter because Fisher and the Titans ultimately didn't want him at market value. He shouldn't hate the man, who showed great patience when he was slow to understand what it meant to be in shape in the NFL, who kicked a teammate in practice and who stomped Andre Gurode in the face. In each instance Fisher allowed Haynesworth to earn his way back into good graces. Also, Fisher is the guy who hired Titans defensive line coach Jim Washburn, and Washburn played a bigger role in Haynesworth becoming a dominant force than anyone.

On his relationship with Redskins head coach Jim Zorn:

[B]Haynesworth[/B]: "Coach Zorn is a very cool individual. You can go up and talk to him anytime, at any point. You can call him. I've probably talked to Coach Zorn on the cell phone more than I talked to Coach Fisher in seven years. And same thing with Mr. [Daniel] Snyder too. I know I've never talked to Mr. [Bud] Adams on the phone and I've talked to Mr. Snyder several times on the phone and he's called me and things like that. I mean, it's just a totally different situation there in Washington. It's not really like a division between the players and the front office. Here in Washington it's more that everybody gets along, everybody hangs out. You have Vinny [Cerrato] that comes down and works out around the same time we do and always coming through the training room and stuff. It's just really different. I've never been to any other team and I thought every team was pretty much like [the Titans]."

[B]Kuharsky's interpretation[/B]: Fisher maintains a cool distance, but is hardly inaccessible. Position coaches are closest to players, and you'll notice Haynesworth didn't compare his new line coach to Washburn. Careful what you wish for in terms of a phone chat with Adams, who can meander around in such a conversation.

Mike Reinfeldt and Cerrato are probably polar opposites in personality. Fair to say Reinfeldt's not the kind of guy looking to workout beside players. I'd tend to be far more wary of an executive who's in the weight room than one who's not, but maybe that's just me. Snyder was courting Haynesworth and likes to be a player's pal as much as he likes to be an owner.

That Titans' distance sure doesn't translate in the win column like Washington's closeness does: The Titans are 35-29 in the last four years, the Redskins 32-32.

Revisiting my Haynesworth stance: If the Titans were $1 million away from re-signing him a year ago as he's said, they really blew it. I think his name means a lot to him after the Gurode stuff, and that he won't turn into a dog with the big contract because he doesn't want to see that name soiled again. Even if he's not as good in Washington, that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been good in Nashville.[/I]

tryfuhl 06-26-2009 10:46 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
Wow, that guy seems a bit butthurt, really reaching for some of that stuff.

Lotus 06-26-2009 11:12 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
[quote=tryfuhl;564898]Wow, that guy seems a bit butthurt, really reaching for some of that stuff.[/quote]

Yeah, no kidding. It all went downhill from Kuharsky's beginning comment, which was,

"When you get the money and affection he got, of course you're happy and saying good things about the new team and not so good things about the old team."

Here Kuharsky completely ignores the possibility that AH could have said nice things about both teams. And AH didn't really diss Tennessee, AH just said that he felt it was time for new pastures. Phat Al went to college in Tennessee, too, and might understandably yearn for a change of scenery without resentment for the old scenery.

Personally I don't think I'll be reading many of his columns in the future.

brent 06-29-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
While no one can dispute New England's success, you have to do things your own way. You can't just "copy" a franchise's approach to player/personnel decisions.

If you are paying a dude $100 million or whatever, it makes sense to get him involved in the process of making sure you get the most out of him. Doesn't every successful team design their offense around what their QB does best? Gibbs was famous for that.

I think that's a real positive, and something the Skins have failed to do in recent past.

Zerohero 06-29-2009 01:28 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
[quote=stu_nna;564666]Our defense has never been "soft". This is not the NFC West we are playing in. Yes we've had our offensive woes, but that does not translate into a soft team. We are not even close.[/quote]

I have to agree with this, and go on to say how hard its been to be in the NFC East. Even when the cowgirls, eagles, giants have off years they are still very competitive teams.

SBXVII 06-29-2009 02:47 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
Not to change the topic, but I'm loving the love fest from all the media and magazine types. The only good thing they can say about the Skins is that they had the 4th ranked defense last yr and now having aquired AH and signing Hall we may improve.

NFL.COM, NFL network, Lindy's magazine, Pro Football Weekly magazine, Beckett's magazine, and Athlon Sports magazine. All point out that we were 8-8 last yr and made no improvements on the offensive side of the ball. They point out that we have no faith in JC and looked to pick up another QB. Obviously he sucks. We have no WR threat save for Moss and ARE. Oh and we need help at the SLB. They all list us last in the division for 09.

Our biggest issue last yr was we had a new HC with a new offensive scheme. That alone would keep a team below 500. We broke even. Most teams in their second yr in the same offense do better. I have to imagine we will do better. Perhaps it's my positive thinking but I truly doubt it's cool aid. So I believe atleast 9-7 or better.

I know we have had issues at WR but it seems we have a plethora these days. Now some might say they are unproven. True, but again I have to believe Kelly will do better then last yr which was doing nothing at all. I have to believe Thomas will be a lot better having better knowledge of the plays, audibles, speed, and routes. I don't know if they will both turn out to be 1st rate caliber WR's but even if they are half that they help the team. If they can produce 2 TD's they have helped more then Thrash did last yr...on offense.

I have to imagine our TE Davis was imbarrassed with his lack of production last yr. As well as Cooley. I can see both having an awsome season.

I have to believe with a better knowledge of the offense our passing attack will be better openning holes for CP or Betts or whoever they put back there. Teams will not be able to stack the box.

All these things are almost givens. I have not mentioned anything that would be far fetched. Unless the team implodes these things I have mentioned can almost be expected. The problem is everyone is from the show me state. Show me what you can do consistantly or get off the field. Which is why no one picked the Cards to go to the SB. I don't know. I'm sorry for venting, but I'm just tired of all the "Love fest for the Eagles going to the SB in 09. I have not seen enough changes on their part either to indicate they are worthy of taking the #1 spot in the NFC East. Last yr McNabb was healthy and they went no where. Second to last. I keep reading how this yr McNabb will be healthy and he will have weapons. What weapons? Yes, their last yrs rookie will be better this yr no different then Thomas and Kelly. Lets see...they have one new weapon now and we have two. They picked up another WR, TE, and RB. Nice. It will be difficult for the WR and TE because they will have to learn the offense, speed of the NFL, routes, play calls, and audibles. I don't see them having much of a change untill next yr. The RB might find some success only cause he simply has to learn the blocking then just run for the whole. The Eagles O-line and D-line are their best parts. Their defensive secondary is beatable. No improvement. I see the same mediocre team from last yr.

Dallas might be able to right the ship better then the Eagles but I think they are suspect in the secondary as well, they have lost their best offensive weapon that teams had to account for, their QB is second rate like ours but can get the job done. Then there's the HC. He sucks.

I see the only real threat coming from the Giants. Untill they get bumped off their pedistal they are the top dog, but their pedistal is starting to crumble. They lost two great WR's and have not replaced them. I think honestly their time has come and gone. They are on the downward slide. This yr will show for it.

Agian I'm sorry for venting and sorry this was soo long.

MTK 06-29-2009 02:50 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
If the OL holds strong and we get something, anything from Thomas, Kelly and Davis, I can easily see 10-6 or better.

SBXVII 06-29-2009 03:12 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
I can only hope Zorn is cutting all the "Summaries" out from all these magazines and posting them around Redskins Park. I know I'm a homer and I like to drink from the cool aid but I don't think I way out of line thinking we could be the team in the NFC East. If nothing else second place. If nothing else it screams volumes that the Eagles would let a team with a new HC trying to learn a new offense beat them twice. Apparently they are not that great.

I believe our division will probably beat up on each other. I'm being respectable to the other teams when saying that. Outside of that I see our only threats being New Orleans, Atlanta, and San Diego. We have:
St. Louis-winnable
Detroit-winnable
Tampa-winnable(New HC, possibly change to scheme)
Carolina-winnable
KC-winnable(again new HC,new scheme)
Denver-winnable(new HC, new scheme)
Oakland-winnable(need I say more, AL Davis)

Drinking from the cool aid is to say we will win them all. Although I like the sound of that. If we split the division we would be 3-3. Then there's all the ones I listed above. I presume a couple will catch us off guard like Carolina, and Tampa if they have not changed their offense. That's 3-5.
St. Louis
Detroit
KC
Denver
Oakland
are wins in my book, we would be 8-5. Then you have the 3; Atlanta, San Diego, and New Orleans. This is what will make us or break us. Will we be 8-8 again? I doubt it. I see us beating two of these three teams. 10-6. Now if we can beat any of our division rivals twice would even be better and I can actually see it possibly happening. Especially the Eagles. Perhaps Dallas this yr also.

SBXVII 06-29-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
Also....(this is my complaint day.LOL) why have we seen so many Dallas "Replay" games on the NFL network? It seems like ever time I turn on the NFL network and it's "Replay" it's some team against Dallas. Today was Baltimore. They've shown the Dalls vs. Eagles, Dallas vs. Seattle, Dallas vs. Baltimore, Dallas vs. Giants, and I think Dallas vs. Green Bay.

A close second has to be the Giants all over the network. Giants vs. Eagles, Giants vs Patriots, Giants vs. Dallas, .....

I hope there will be a Redskins week. lol.

Lotus 06-29-2009 05:04 PM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
[quote=SBXVII;565106]Also....(this is my complaint day.LOL) why have we seen so many Dallas "Replay" games on the NFL network? It seems like ever time I turn on the NFL network and it's "Replay" it's some team against Dallas. Today was Baltimore. They've shown the Dalls vs. Eagles, Dallas vs. Seattle, Dallas vs. Baltimore, Dallas vs. Giants, and I think Dallas vs. Green Bay.

A close second has to be the Giants all over the network. Giants vs. Eagles, Giants vs Patriots, Giants vs. Dallas, .....

I hope there will be a Redskins week. lol.[/quote]

Yes, it is quite annoying that they rarely show the 'Skins. Even when they have historical games, they never seem to pick 'Skins games.

ethat001 06-30-2009 12:23 AM

Re: Albert Haynesworth on Sirius NFL
 
I'm a little worried about the AH injury bug. He's getting older and we've got keep him healthy for years. Given his history, I hope he can last us the full season. Either way, I guess we have capable backups that would bend-not-break for us if needed.


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