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Since we're guesstimating good drafts, I thought guesstimating disasters was appropriate.

I'm going with Heyward-Bey. If he is deemed too easy of a target, I would substitute Vontae Davis.

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Im hoping its Jeremy Maclin

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[quote=WaldSkins;551653]Im hoping its Jeremy Maclin[/quote]

im afraid he is going to be an animal :doh:

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I think both Macklin and Heyward-Bey don't have it. MOst rookie WRs suck to begin with but H-B was a serious reach and drops more passes than Byalon and Macklin played the slot in college. Essentially he never run real pro routes. I also don't think Macklin even if he projects out right is what they need. They have a speed guy. They need a guy who can go and get balls for TDs. Not more homerun hitters.

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I just have a feeling Brian Cushing has bust written all over him.

Heyward-Bey could be a pretty good NFL WR I think, but the fact that he landed in Oakland and was picked at least 10 spots higher than projected definitely increases his chances for bust status.

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Percy Harvin. Hard for me to say as a semi-Gators fan (I was born into it) but I just think the kid has bust written all over him. He's like a Duke basketball player, does great in college. Becomes a drug addict with no career in the pros.

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Have to go with Stafford, just for the simple fact on who drafted him and the fact that I don't think he is ready for the NFL. He has the tools, but he got drafted by a crap team. Doesn't matter though, he will collect his $41 million just the same.

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I hope its Ziggy from the Steelers..Can they have one busted draft pick?

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[quote=Daseal;551685]Percy Harvin. Hard for me to say as a semi-Gators fan (I was born into it) but I just think the kid has bust written all over him. He's like a Duke basketball player, does great in college. Becomes a drug addict with no career in the pros.[/quote]

Respectfully I think he's going to be offensive rookie of the year (I'm a maniacal Gator fan. All the character stuff with him is soooo overblown).

Watch the video on the right side of the screen: [url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/percy-harvin?id=80425]National Football League: NFL Draft 2009 - Percy Harvin[/url]

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tyson jackson.

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A bunch of the first round receivers send my bustometer 3000 chirping, but Heyward-Bey is the next Mike Mamula, right down to the spot he was picked at (which would make Crabtree the next Warren Sapp).

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actually josh freeman probably. i dont see him being any better than average

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Andre Smith + Bengals Locker Room = Bust.

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[quote=Ruhskins;551699]Andre Smith + Bengals Locker Room = Bust.[/quote]

Don't you guys think it's kinda early to assume who would be bust??

On another hand, Ruh made a pretty good point.. Teams and locker rooms does make a big difference..

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Hopefully its Maclin that would suck if he started tearing it up.. I personally think Stafford is a joke so damn overrated its ridiculous. Say all you want about is monster arm and his mechanics. Ive seen this kid play in college since he was younger and less hyped he is okay. Definetly the prize QB of the draft since there were no great QBs at all in this draft except Sanchez who is overhyped just the same. But yep let him collect his cool 41 million and be average. Heyward Bey definetely a reach why would you pass on a talent like Crabtree. Tyson Jackson is good I think but 3rd overall??? Also Josh Freeman yea he is big, and big arm but is terribly inconsistent and makes bad decisions. And Ruh said it best Andre Smith in the Bengals locker room thats a laugh. The kid is dumb as bricks and has a bad work ethic lets put him with the team that is all about bad decisions. So glad we got Orakpo though out of all the others

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[quote=dall-assblows;551677]im afraid he is going to be an animal :doh:[/quote]


He's already a mammal, what else do you want?

But seriously its kind of early to pick but if I had to throw my hat in I would say Darrius Heyward-Bey because I dont like his name and also he was only honorable mention all acc and went 7th

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Aaron Maybin DE from Penn State.

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Haha Heyword-Bay is such an easy target here, 7th overall and he probably would have fell out of the first round. His only saving grace is Russel has the strongest arm in the NFL, BAR NONE, and Bay is a speedster, maybe they can develop some chemistry.

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Stafford or Sanchez... lets face it... you hit with the QB's about 50% of the time... one of them is going to suck

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Brandon Pettigrew

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[quote=GridIron26;551702][B]Don't you guys think it's kinda early to assume who would be bust?? [/B]

On another hand, Ruh made a pretty good point.. Teams and locker rooms does make a big difference..[/quote]

Yes, it is early to "assume." That is why I used the verb "guesstimate" in the thread, meaning "take a stab just for fun."

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Maclin, or Maybin. both undersized.

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Mark Sanchez!

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[quote=jamf;551756]Aaron Maybin DE from Penn State.[/quote]

Agreed, but let's thank Buffalo for going Maybin over Orakpo at #11!

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[quote=Buster;551895]Mark Sanchez![/quote]

For some strange reason, I think Dirty Sanchez is going to be a star. Hell, what do I know, I thought Pat Ramsey was going to lead us.

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Maybe Maclin... I don't think he will be used much.

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Darrius Heyward-Bey is likely to enjoy some level of good QB play before the end of 2011 in Oakland, and I would not tag him as a likely bust, even though the longer he withers in Oakland the more likely it will become.

Hakeem Nicks will bust in New York. Aaron Maybin has a good chance to bust in Buffalo. Jeremy Maclin, I don't see him ever climbing the depth chart in Philly. Even with three receivers, they'd have to let some of their better players go to make room for him, and that would be a mistake. Larry English could wash out very, very easily in San Diego.

Freeman is a huge question mark, because I don't think he's in a good situation in Tampa. I do favor his potential though over, say, Stafford, who I think as crazy as this may sound, will not bust because he's in a much better situation. Sanchez, I think, is in a better situation than Freeman, and will have a league average career.

But if I'm being asked for just one name of whom will fail epically, I'm going with Percy Harvin in Minnesota.

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Beanie Wells. I don't know that he's going to physically hold up to the NFL. And he won't be running people over like he did in College.

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I can't believe you guys think Maclin is going to be a bust. No freakin way. You could argue he was the best wr in the draft. I tend to look at a college players production and Maclin was a VERY VERY productive on offense. He got open, caught a ton of passes and got in the end zone. Plus he's a stud in the return game. Plus he catches the ball with his hands. He'll do just fine in Philly. Bey is a different story. I can not believe he got drafted so high. I'm actually shocked. I follow MD. football and he's got a long long way to go.

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[quote=skinsfan69;552243]I can't believe you guys think Maclin is going to be a bust. No freakin way. You could argue he was the best wr in the draft. I tend to look at a college players production and Maclin was a VERY VERY productive on offense. He got open, caught a ton of passes and got in the end zone. Plus he's a stud in the return game. Plus he catches the ball with his hands. He'll do just fine in Philly. Bey is a different story. I can not believe he got drafted so high. I'm actually shocked. I follow MD. football and he's got a long long way to go.[/quote]He certainly was all different kinds of productive, and I see the same issues with both Heyward-Bey and Maclin in terms of what routes they can run and how well they can separate.

The thing I hear about Maclin is that he's just very soft. With Heyward-Bey, he's a deep threat, but he's a hard nosed guy who can take that slip screen and get yards after the catch, or turn the drag route upfield. With Maclin, I just think injuries and an unwillingness to run a certain part of the route tree to the best of his ability is going to get him at the next level. Plus, I think he's blocked in Philly by a better WR, DeSean Jackson, who himself is just about to break into their starting lineup.

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[quote=skinsfan69;552243]I can't believe you guys think Maclin is going to be a bust. No freakin way. You could argue he was the best wr in the draft. I tend to look at a college players production and Maclin was a VERY VERY productive on offense. He got open, caught a ton of passes and got in the end zone. Plus he's a stud in the return game. Plus he catches the ball with his hands. He'll do just fine in Philly. Bey is a different story. I can not believe he got drafted so high. I'm actually shocked. I follow MD. football and he's got a long long way to go.[/quote]


kinda easy to be productive when you come out in a 5 wide set every play and all you run is drag routes and there is NO WAY anyone could reasonably argue that he was the best wr in the draft this year

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Hold on I must have missed the part where Hayword -Bay went to the RAIDERS. How can he NOT be a bust?

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;552264]kinda easy to be productive when you come out in a 5 wide set every play and all you run is drag routes and there is NO WAY anyone could reasonably argue that he was the best wr in the draft this year[/quote]

He isn't the best wideout but he is going to the best team if you are a wideout. He will be getting single coverage all year and Philly refuses to run at times.

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This was a good first round. Honestly as bad they claim this draft class is I only see a handful of bust.

1. Derrius Heyward-Bey - Didn't put up good numbers in college due to weak QB play and now goes to a team with even weaker QB play. Basically in my mind there are two types of recievers, guys that need a QB and guys that can succed with a RB under center (VERY RARE). Heyward-Bey is sure as hell not the latter.

2. Josh Freeman - Another guy with a big arm. Whoop dee doo. He'll just be average, nothing special.

3. Percy Harvin - Good chance he'll fail and to be honest I kind of want him to.

4. Hakeem Nicks/Kenny Britt - Really? Boldin and Edwards available for that pick and you come away with guys that might develop into #2's? In all fairness though to the Titans the Cardinals didn't return their phone calls.

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[quote=Superman13732;552268]Hold on I must have missed the part where Hayword -Bay went to the RAIDERS. How can he NOT be a bust?[/quote]

Who else can they throw it to?

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[quote=skinsfan69;552243]I can't believe you guys think Maclin is going to be a bust. No freakin way. You could argue he was the best wr in the draft. I tend to look at a college players production and Maclin was a VERY VERY productive on offense. He got open, caught a ton of passes and got in the end zone. Plus he's a stud in the return game. Plus he catches the ball with his hands. He'll do just fine in Philly. Bey is a different story. I can not believe he got drafted so high. I'm actually shocked. I follow MD. football and he's got a long long way to go.[/quote]

I didn't say that Maclin stinks!!! Its just 60% of the time Westbrook has the ball. DeSean Jackson is slowly getting his touches, then you have Curtis, Baskett, Avant, Brown and then the newly drafted TE, where does Maclin fit in? He'll be a "bust" due to limited play, not from lack of skill.

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Percy Harvin is another player from this area. Loads of talent. Between injuries and his propensity to get high, I could see him being a bust. I hate to see him follow the path of other Tidewater area players such as Vick and Burress, but apparently he also lives in a different world and thinks he is above the rules.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;552270]He isn't the best wideout but he is going to the best team if you are a wideout. He will be getting single coverage all year and Philly refuses to run at times.[/quote]


If Philly refuses to run why would he get single coverage???

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I feel Sanchez is overrated, his arm isnt gonna scare anyone. BUT neither did Montana's, but I really doubt Sanchez is anywhere near as smart and accurate as Montana was.

But Ill go with Maclin and Wells, neither will hold up against NFL'ers.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;552264]kinda easy to be productive when you come out in a 5 wide set every play and all you run is drag routes and there is NO WAY anyone could reasonably argue that he was the best wr in the draft this year[/quote]

I don't know, the games I saw he seemed to be running everything. I mean you don't catch 100 balls in Div 1 football and not have some seriosu talent. Now I know the Big 12 isn't the SEC but that's still serious production.