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Dirtbag59 03-23-2009 08:15 PM

Tell me about Jack Kent Cooke
 
[COLOR=DarkRed][B]Update (April 22, 2009):[/B] Just got my paper back today expecting a C or D based on how my professor described his grading criteria. Instead it turns out I ended up with an A (91/100 no A-'s in Georgia). So with that said I want to once again express my appreciation to everyone who helped me out with the thread. This is 30% of my grade in the class so it definitely means a lot. Now all I have to do is help out on the group project that counts as 40% of the grade. [/COLOR]

I'm currently in the middle of writing a 2,000 word paper for my Entrepreneurial class and as you may have already guessed my paper is on the late great Jack Kent Cooke (was originally going to write about Snyder but I don't think he qualifies as historical).

However I only really know limited amounts about his involvement with the Redskins. If anyone could provide any factoids on his dealings with the other teams he owned as well as the businesses he started before becoming an owner then that would be much appreciated.

The actual question reads as follows:
[B][I]'Growing a business is a difficult challenge'. With reference to a historical entrepreneur of your choice, explore and explain the key factors behind their business growth and success.[/I][/B]

Information can include anything from his personallity, style of management, factoids about his old business, how he balanced raising a family, and virtually anything else you may know.

mrreddman 03-23-2009 08:35 PM

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He owned the Lakers too man. Im pretty sure the Forum was built under his ownership. Had a young hot wife who claimed she got pregnant by good ole Jack. Best bloody owner in all of football...spent cash on his players and coaches! Signed Wilbur Marshall which pretty much set in motion todays version of free agency. Also was keen on raiding the USFL of many top players which helped Redskins win SB. I believe early on he was a salesmen of some sort. Should be tons of info on him somewhere though.

sportscurmudgeon 03-23-2009 08:37 PM

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Dirtbag:

JKC was indeed a character. He owned/built the Fabulous Forum in LA and owned the LA Kings and the LA Lakers for a time. He owned radio, TV and newspapers too. He once owned a minor league baseball team and tried to buy a major league baseball team and move it to Toronto in the late 50s/early 60s as I recall.


Early on as Skins' owner he stayed in LA and allowed Edward Bennett Williams (Washington lawyer of no small reputation) to run the Skins. Williams owned a small part of the team (7% I think). Then Cooke severed his LA ties - - proximal to one of his several divorces - - and moved east to an estate in Upperville/Middleburg VA. That is when he bought out Williams and became the guiding force of the Redskins and built the team by spending more money on the Skins than any other owner of the 1980s spent on their teams -- except perhaps for Eddie deBartolo in SF. [BTW, Edward Bennett Williams then purchased the Baltimore Orioles and ran that team for a while...]


If you are doing a paper on JKC, leave room for a section on how he thought he might outsmart the Feds and the IRS with regard to his estate taxes and created an arcane will that all but guaranteed that his son could not own the team. That is how the team was up for sale in the late 90s - first to the Millstein Bros and subsequently to Danny Boy - all because JKC's intracate will made it such that the estate had to sell the team to pay the estate taxes that JKC thought he was going to avoid.


As I understand it, the key to his tax machinations was that the Chrysler Bldg in NYC - - which he also owned - - was supposed to be valuable enough to sell quickly and pay all the estate tax that might be due. Unfortunately, the Chrysler Bldg wasn't worth more than about 60% of what the estate needed to raise to pay the estate tax - - even with all of is hedges and shelters and foundations and all that stuff. And that is where the house of cards began to fall...


Just a guess, but Smootsmack should have info for you on this subject too...


Good luck.

SmootSmack 03-23-2009 09:04 PM

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So, just to be clear, you want info on JKC before the Redskins?

Dirtbag59 03-23-2009 09:07 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;539267]So, just to be clear, you want info on JKC before the Redskins?[/quote]

Virtually anythings ok. A main reason I'm asking here is a lot of you guys know about the aspects that usually get left out of biographies. Mainly his personality and his demeanor as well as his style of management. On top of that I figured that a lot of people would help me zero in on the important aspects of his legacy and basically highlight what I should follow up on. In the meantime why you think he was able to be so successful would be a huge help. But yeah, just feel free to fire away with whatever you got.

Also thanks for the responses so far. Definitely helpful. I'm currently up to 422 words though I plan on finishing the body tonight and take care of the citations and cover page tomorrow.

SmootSmack 03-23-2009 09:50 PM

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Curmudgeon covered a lot, JKC tried to move the Tigers and St. Louis Browns (now Orioles) to Toronto.

He was kind of similar to Snyder when he went after Spurrier, in that Cooke thought our team was boring and wouldn't attract fans under Pardee's defense-first coaching style so he wanted an aerial offensive guy. Hence Gibbs.

WaldSkins 03-23-2009 09:55 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;539257]I'm currently in the middle of [B]writing a 2,000 word paper[/B] for my Entrepreneurial class and as you may have already guessed my paper is on the late great Jack Kent Cooke (was originally going to write about Snyder but I don't think he qualifies as historical).

However I only really know limited amounts about his involvement with the Redskins. If anyone could provide any factoids on his dealings with the other teams he owned as well as the businesses he started before becoming an owner then that would be much appreciated.

The actual question reads as follows:
[B][I]'Growing a business is a difficult challenge'. With reference to a historical entrepreneur of your choice, explore and explain the key factors behind their business growth and success.[/I][/B]

Information can include anything from his personallity, style of management, factoids about his old business, how he balanced raising a family, and virtually anything else you may know.[/quote]
I soooo misread that. I thought you were typing the longest paper in world history.

MeanEvilSkin 03-23-2009 09:57 PM

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I remember reading the bio's at the time of his passing. He was truly a self-made man. He sold Encyclopedias door-to-door during the Depression. If you can make a living doing that, you're a hell of a salesman. From that, he got into the cable business at some point. That was the basis of his fortune.

Lotus 03-23-2009 10:01 PM

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portscurmudgeon is correct about JKC's will and the ownership succession problems. I have continued think that this was a great tragedy for the Redskins. What if the Redskins had stayed in the Cooke family instead of entering Snyder's hands?

JKC enthusiastically supported the Redskins in every positive way. He also kept his nose out of practical football business and was not one of those owners who micromanaged personnel decisions or coaching/strategy. He left winning games up to the football professionals, whom he paid well. As such, in terms of micromanaging the team he was the anti-Snyder. Because of this, he was a great owner and we won three Super Bowls with the checkbook in his hand.

70Chip 03-23-2009 10:10 PM

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My favorite line form JKC is about the LA Kings. The reason he thought hockey would be a big success is that he read that there were something like 300,000 Canadians living in the greater L.A area. After a couple of seasons he remarked that they must have left Canada because they hated hockey.

You can download Mr. Cooke's biography here:

[URL="http://www.jkcf.org/about-jkcf/about-jack-kent-cooke/"]Jack Kent Cooke Foundation - About Jack Kent Cooke[/URL]

Oh yeah. Another interesting thing a lot of people don't know is that Cooke's son Ralph's first [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrie_Rozelle"]wife[/URL] later married Pete Rozelle. When Rozelle gave Cooke the Lombardi trophy for SB 17 JKC said, "Do I get to keep this one?"

Note: That Wiki link about Carrie Rozelle seems to confuse Ralph Cooke with his father.

Dirtbag59 03-24-2009 01:08 AM

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[quote=WaldSkins;539281]I soooo misread that. I thought you were typing the longest paper in world history.[/quote]

Actually when I first posted the thread I wrote 2,000 page paper. It has obviously since been edited. So it's not like you're the only one.

SmootSmack 03-24-2009 07:36 AM

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[quote]Wilson worked two years under the legendary Jack Kent Cooke of the Lakers. He and a co-worker were the stars of the Lakers sales staff, which worked solely on commission. In his brief stay there, he made considerable money for the times. When the season ended, the two were summoned to Cooke’s office for what they assumed would be a pat on the back – and, very likely, a bonus. Instead Cooke told them they’d never make that much money again, pulled all their files and distributed their business among the rest of the staff.

“Cooke ran an organization by fear,” Wilson said. “That affected (his relationship with Davidson) for years. The first two or three years, when we were really struggling, I kept thinking he was going to come to his senses soon and realize this was a mistake. Cooke fired three-quarters of the people who worked there in the two years I was there, and that figure is probably low. The VP of sales changed five times in two years. There was no trust there; here it’s complete trust. That sort of freedom allows you the daring that you need. If you don’t have the ability to be wrong, you don’t have the ability to be really, really right.”[/quote]

[url=http://www.nba.com/pistons/features/davidson_parttwo.html]PISTONS: A Simple Plan[/url]

Dblock804 03-24-2009 08:13 AM

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Was he in the first Pay per veiw? Boxing at the Garden. Foreman, Ali? Like Brokered the deal maybe an agent?

SmootSmack 03-24-2009 09:30 AM

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[quote=Dblock804;539352]Was he in the first Pay per veiw? Boxing at the Garden. Foreman, Ali? Like Brokered the deal maybe an agent?[/quote]

Right. He bankrolled that fight and was the promoter. Don King before Don King

SmootSmack 03-24-2009 09:37 AM

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JKC also at one point owned Muzak (so all that music you'd hear in elevators and in retail stores, that belonged to him), and part of Showtime

12thMan 03-24-2009 10:46 AM

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For what's it worth, growing up in the city, DC loved Jack Kent Cooke the owner. His personal life was another story. Cooke was a winner to the core. I also suspect it's one of the reasons the area hasn't, 'till this very day, fully embraced Dan Snyder. Every now and then, I still hear the old timers talk about Cooke.

I can say for me at least, there are probably three or four faces that I've come to associate with the franchise over the years. Jack Kent Cooke was most definitely one of them. I still remember him wearing those dark sunglasses and a checkered hat like it was yesterday.

freddyg12 03-24-2009 11:01 AM

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[quote=Lotus;539285]portscurmudgeon is correct about JKC's will and the ownership succession problems. I have continued think that this was a great tragedy for the Redskins. What if the Redskins had stayed in the Cooke family instead of entering Snyder's hands?

JKC enthusiastically supported the Redskins in every positive way. He also kept his nose out of practical football business and was not one of those owners who micromanaged personnel decisions or coaching/strategy. He left winning games up to the football professionals, whom he paid well. As such, in terms of micromanaging the team he was the anti-Snyder. Because of this, he was a great owner and we won three Super Bowls with the checkbook in his hand.[/quote]

well put. The most memorable thing about JKC to me was sadly when he was interviewed by the Wash Post in about 95 or so when the team was falling & he was at the end of his life.

He was asked about Art Monk leaving and said that he wouldn't have changed anything he did or intervened, "because that's when you become a football coach and not an owner, however that was poorly managed." (not a direct quote but similar)

That was a sad time for skins fans & it was even sadder when he passed away. It's always interesting to think about what the team would've been like w/John K. Cooke as owner. He didn't have the drive & ambition of Snyder, and wasn't on par as a business man, but he likely would've followed his Dad's lead & left football to football people.

cochise 03-24-2009 12:19 PM

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If I remember correctly he made his start selling encylcepedia's from door to door in Canada.

cochise 03-24-2009 12:25 PM

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Also, JKC is known as the only owner to never ask for a dime from the city for his stadium and/or his orginzation !

firstdown 03-24-2009 12:26 PM

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[quote=12thMan;539392]For what's it worth, growing up in the city, DC loved Jack Kent Cooke the owner. His personal life was another story. Cooke was a winner to the core. I also suspect it's one of the reasons the area hasn't, 'till this very day, fully embraced Dan Snyder. Every now and then, I still hear the old timers talk about Cooke.

I can say for me at least, there are probably three or four faces that I've come to associate with the franchise over the years. Jack Kent Cooke was most definitely one of them. I still remember him wearing those dark sunglasses and a checkered hat like it was yesterday.[/quote]
I agree he is part of the reason Snyder is not embraced in the DC area but if he had won a few SB's like Jerry Jones did in Dallas that would change very fast. Remember how much Jerry Jones was first hated in Dallas when he came in and fired the legend (shoot I forgot his name) but you get my point.

freddyg12 03-24-2009 12:38 PM

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[quote=firstdown;539421]I agree he is part of the reason Snyder is not embraced in the DC area but if he had won a few SB's like Jerry Jones did in Dallas that would change very fast. Remember how much Jerry Jones was first hated in Dallas when he came in and fired the legend (shoot I forgot his name) but you get my point.[/quote]

What do the locals think of JJ now? I know a lot of dallas fans think he put his ego over the Tuna's head when he got TO. Maybe if the tuna had stayed that team would've made it to the super bowl.

So, JJ was hated at first, but it's been a long time since those bowls & they haven't won a playoff game since 97? I also have read that a lot of fans are upset w/his new stadium & the high ticket prices. Sound familiar?

Slingin Sammy 33 03-24-2009 12:47 PM

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JKC, you could always count on him for a quote (check out my sig). He stayed out of the football side of the business and left that to Gibbs and Bethard, when those two couldn't agree they would bring the dispute to Cooke, who would settle it. He was like the Danny in one way, he wasn't afraid to spend money to bring in whatever talent Bethard and Gibbs needed.

The sunglasses and hat look is classic.

SmootSmack 03-24-2009 01:52 PM

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Jack Kent Cooke bought the Lakers from Bob Short...who gained later infamy in Washington, DC when he outbid Bob Hope (yes, that Bob Hope) and purchased the Washington Senators, hired Ted Williams as the team's manager, and subsequently sent the team packing to Arlington, Texas.

skinsfan69 03-24-2009 04:23 PM

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[quote=Lotus;539285]portscurmudgeon is correct about JKC's will and the ownership succession problems. I have continued think that this was a great tragedy for the Redskins. What if the Redskins had stayed in the Cooke family instead of entering Snyder's hands?

JKC enthusiastically supported the Redskins in every positive way. He also kept his nose out of practical football business and was not one of those owners who micromanaged personnel decisions or coaching/strategy. He left winning games up to the football professionals, whom he paid well. As such, in terms of micromanaging the team he was the anti-Snyder. Because of this, he was a great owner and we won three Super Bowls with the checkbook in his hand.[/quote]

Not to get off subject but I really don't think Synder micro manages the team. You simply can not compare him to Jerry Jones. Maybe when he first bought the team he did but not now.

CRedskinsRule 03-24-2009 04:27 PM

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I truly hope Snyder will one day fill the shoes worn by JKC. That would be an awesome thing.

MeanEvilSkin 03-24-2009 08:15 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;539489]I truly hope Snyder will one day fill the shoes worn by JKC. That would be an awesome thing.[/quote]

Snyder is too arrogant to learn.

SmootSmack 03-24-2009 08:22 PM

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[quote=MeanEvilSkin;539523]Snyder is too arrogant to learn.[/quote]

Care to elaborate?

FRPLG 03-24-2009 09:19 PM

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[quote=cochise;539420]Also, JKC is known as the only owner to never ask for a dime from the city for his stadium and/or his orginzation ![/quote]

Isn't the reason the stadium is now in Maryland because the City wouldn't give him the land to build it?

sportscurmudgeon 03-24-2009 10:16 PM

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Frplg:

The reason the stadium is in PG County and not in DC is a very complex issue but the short version is that the DC Government could never bring itself to the point of exercising eminent domain over land to build the stadiu, in DC.

It is far more complex than that because the government's "inability"/refusal to do so is tied up in other issues where JKC refused to guarantee certain pieces of the construction work and supervisory work to companies who were "favorites". There was lots of other "stuff" going on here but the nonsense went on for about 10 years and then JKC decided he had to look elsewhere.

Dirtbag59 03-25-2009 03:03 AM

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Just finished it. Paper ended up barely missing the 3,000 word mark. Anyway just wanted to take a second to thank everyone who contributed to the thread. Especially (God I know I'm going to miss someone here) sportscurmudgeon, mrreddman, smootsmack, 70 Chip, 12thman, FreddyG, and SlinginSammy.

Sammy I also thought you'll be happy to know that I opened the essay with the quote from your sig. Though I freaked out for a second because I realized I'd have to cite the quote and I knew that citing SlingingSammy33 from the Warpath.net wasn't going to cut, luckily the quote happened to be in one of my sources so it worked out in the end. From there on I opened each section of the paper with a JKC quote.

[CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]”[If] an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything]....you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996 (AP, JKC Quotes)

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[CENTER][CENTER][B][U]Legacy: An Introduction to Jack Kent Cooke

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[CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]“Yes I was very good at it, because I believe you can do almost anything you want to do if you're willing to apply yourself with deliberation, with a smidgen of common sense, and the will to do it above all.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, When asked how he was able to excel at selling encyclopedias despite that fact that he ‘hated it’. (Heyward Interview)

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[CENTER][CENTER][B][U]T’was a Man Named Jack: Cooke’s Life Story

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[CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]“Nobody’s going to write a book about me [50 years from now], because nobody’s going to find anything worth writing a book about.” — Jack Kent Cooke, summer 1995 (AP, JKC Quotes)

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[CENTER][CENTER][B][U]Blueprint: The Beliefs and Habits that Made Cooke Great

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[CENTER][CENTER][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]I am in a state of ectasy. Never mind that nonsense about euphoria and so on, it is sheer unadulterated, uncompromising ectasy.” — Jack Kent Cooke, after winning the 1983 Super Bowl (AP, JKC Quotes)[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[LEFT] Of course my favorite quote from the paper concerns the PLC's:
[I][FONT=&quot]“imagine if you were on a trip and you checked into a hotel and the fellow said 'first thing you have to do is give me a personal payment for the right to rent a room.’ What would you say?" [No sir.] "That’s right, in fact I wouldn't even say sir I'd say, no you stupid ass" (Fox 5 Special).[/FONT]


[/I]Anyway just wanted to extend another thank you to everyone that helped with the thread. [/LEFT]

VABCHSKINSFAN 03-25-2009 09:52 AM

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Care to post the finished product?

Slingin Sammy 33 03-25-2009 03:35 PM

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Don't worry, you could've cited me and it would've been fine. I've been cited in many college publications....oops...police blogs don't count.

Glad to be a little bit of help, hope you do well on the paper.

cochise 03-25-2009 10:16 PM

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Glad we could be of help fellow Skins fan. Like our beloved Redskins it's all about teamwork! "HAIL"

rypper11 03-29-2009 07:44 AM

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When I think of JKC I think of the very end of this video.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9DQd6CBRc]YouTube - Thanks to the 12th Man[/url]

He was a fan who left football to football people.

12thMan 03-29-2009 12:52 PM

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[quote=rypper11;540467]When I think of JKC I think of the very end of this video.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9DQd6CBRc"]YouTube - Thanks to the 12th Man[/URL]

He was a fan who left football to football people.[/quote]


Ha... I think I spotted Michael Steele at :22 into the video.

saden1 03-29-2009 01:51 PM

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[quote=12thMan;540479]Ha... I think I spotted Michael Steele at :22 into the video.[/quote]


I spotted that too. Seriously, that was him.

53Fan 03-29-2009 02:20 PM

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[quote=rypper11;540467]When I think of JKC I think of the very end of this video.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9DQd6CBRc]YouTube - Thanks to the 12th Man[/url]

He was a fan who left football to football people.[/quote]

That was great! :food-smil

T.O.Killa 03-29-2009 07:59 PM

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Jack Kent Cook was a great owner that highered the best people available and stayed out of their way.

SeanTaGodsSafety 03-29-2009 10:01 PM

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He was a bigget.

Dirtbag59 03-29-2009 10:08 PM

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[quote=SeanTaGodsSafety;540526]He was a bigget.[/quote]

Lol, I thought you were Smootsmack.

[quote=VABCHSKINSFAN;539637]Care to post the finished product?[/quote]

Rather not. I'd feel kind of self concious.


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