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Dirtbag59 03-13-2008 02:59 PM

Brandon Albert
 
Well, from what I've seen around the Redskins community the support for Albert has grown exponentially over the past couple of weeks. I think part that might be that DRC might go before 21 and the praise the guy has recieved from Mike Mayock as possibly one of the 15 best players in the draft, though I could have sworn that Mayock pushed him into the top 10 as of late. Anyway heres Alberts scouting report, courtsy of Scouts Inc.

So with that said, no more jacking the Jordy Nelson thread (lol, note to self). If you want to talk Brandon Albert then use this thread.

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[B]Strengths:[/B] Is tall and thickly built. Also has long arms and big hands. Shows a quick first, takes proper angles to assignments and gets into position quickly. Plays with a mean streak and drives legs once locked onto the defender. Has very good initial quickness for his size. Shows above-average range and can pull around the edge. Shows smooth footwork getting into pass sets and shuffles feet to stay in front of defenders. Gets adequate hand placement and extends arms once in position. Keeps head up, shows good awareness and can adjust to line stunts as well as blitzes. Never missed a game because of an injury and is durable.

[B]Weaknesses:[/B] Does not have overwhelming power and doesn't knock many defenders back with initial punch. Plays too high at times and is going to have problems driving two-gap defenders off the ball. Runs well on a straight line but has some trouble hitting the moving target. Doesn't get great knee bend in pass sets and can get pushed back into the pocket. Appears to take plays off at times and may lack ideal endurance at this point.

[B]Overall:[/B] Albert started all 37 of Virginia's games during his three-year career (2005-07), including two at offensive tackle in 2007. He allowed just one sack and received an All-ACC honorable mention in 2006. He was a first-team All-ACC selection in '07. Bottom line: Albert needs to improve his power at the point of attack and learn to get under defenders' pads. He also is a bit inconsistent when it comes to hitting the moving target as a second level run blocker. However, he is a massive guard with very good short-area quickness and tenacity. He could possibly move to ROT in the NFL but we think he fits best inside at guard, where he should quickly develop into an upper-echelon starter. He could be the top interior offensive lineman selected in 2008 draft  no later than the second round.

[B]Footballs Future[/B]
[B]Branden Albert OL 6'7 315 Virginia [/B]

By: Robert Davis

Albert earned a starting nod at left guard as a freshman in 2005, and has held down the job since.

Albert has a great frame for an offensive lineman. He almost looks like a tackle on the field. He is a solid athlete for a guard, and shows solid lateral agility in a short area. Where Albert sets himself apart is in the running game though. He is very strong and has the power to simply drive defenders out of the play. He opens up running lanes on a consistent basis and can dominate even the biggest lineman at the point of attack.

Albert is still a work in progress. He didn’t start playing football until his junior year in high school, and is still refining his technique. His size can work against him at times. He is so tall that he has a tendency to not set up low enough, allowing the defender to gain leverage on him.
Albert could have used another year in college to be more consistent and round of his skills. In a weak class for guards though, he still appears to be a guy who will be taken early. His upside is tremendous and he could hear his name called in the top 50 picks.

Dirtbag59 03-13-2008 03:03 PM

Brandon Albert Mini-Essay
 
There is nothing despearte about drafting my BOY in the first round(sorry I like saying that PTI style). For the sake of putting my feelings aside Albert is one of the 10 best players according to Mayock and the 20th best according to Kiper. Most mock drafts also have him going in the late first where the latest he goes in some mock drafts is early in the second. On top of that his grade on ESPN shot up 9 points in the last week, which currently gives him a scout grade of 90. in their scouting report they say:

"He could possibly move to ROT in the NFL but we think he fits best inside at guard, where he should quickly develop into an upper-echelon starter."

However I have my own reasons for wanting him outside of possibly being a future tackle. See Joe Gibb's employed a power running game, and a while ago I was surprised to see that Joe Gibbs best backs YPC usually went from 3.8 to 4.0 ypc. Earnest Byner had 3.9 YPC during the last Super Bowl year. Riggins averaged 3.6 YPC back in 1983. Last year Portis average 3.9.

Zorn on the other hand I see calling more outside runs, and thats where Albert comes in. Now from what I've seen and heard Albert has enough power to play smash mouth football, but the special thing about him is his quickness. The guy has the ability to get to the second level and hit guys in space. On top of that he's as good of a pass blocking Guard as your going to find this year so Jason Campbell will be able to sleep well at night.

Albert also has the ability to pull which is great because teams knew when Thomas was healthy that most of the pulling and trap plays were going to involve him. With Albert we'll have more room to run traps and sweeps to either side since Albert has proven more then capable in terms of being a pulling Guard.

Keep in mind I'm not Albert or bust, I think theres a lot of guys that we can draft that will become quality starters. However the best player available at 21 in my opinion is Albert and granted you've read this far you can see that I have my reasons. I realize he's not the sexiest pick, and I know a guy with 4.28 speed or a guy with 1,200+ recieving yards looks better then drafting a guard, but I still believe in this guy. Trust me whoever gets him will be happy they did.

Skinz4life 03-13-2008 07:23 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
With a name like dirtbag everyone should have figured you prefer the skins to take Albert, but I agree 100% with you. I posted some similair comments about picking him under another thread. I am fearful that if the skins don't get atl east one O-line starter out of this draft they could be in trouble down the road. All you have to do is look at KC and you can see what happens to a team when their O-line breaks down.

Poppa P 03-13-2008 07:47 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
i could def pull with a guard like brandon albert. solidify that line boys!

hagams 03-13-2008 07:50 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Skinz4life;431786]With a name like dirtbag everyone should have figured you prefer the skins to take Albert, but I agree 100% with you. I posted some similair comments about picking him under another thread. I am fearful that if the skins don't get atl east one O-line starter out of this draft they could be in trouble down the road. All you have to do is look at KC and you can see what happens to a team when their O-line breaks down.[/quote]

You can see what happens to a team when thier O-line breaks down, by looking at our last season. Agreed, dude is a beast on paper. Endurance, and mobility can be worked on. But, if our O-line stays healthy this year, how big of a pick would he be for us? We need to somehow find that "One Guy" that will make an impact.

GTripp0012 03-13-2008 09:31 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
I think Albert is the best possible use of the first round pick, barring a slide by a more highly rated defensive player. I don't like Merling, Balmer, or Calais Campbell enough to advocate picking any of them with the 21st pick, and I would hope that one of them, or Trevor Laws, would be available when we select in the second round, and we can upgrade both our lines.

My mind is now made up, I want us to select Albert at No. 21.

Skinny Tee 03-13-2008 11:20 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
I like the pick but I think he may be gone by then. I see a lot of mocks that are starting to hype Albert.

If the Skins have the chance, we should continue our non-sexy offseason and build the core of our team with Albert.

We need to come away with some young offensive lineman in the first three rounds.

Dirtbag59 03-13-2008 11:30 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Skinz4life;431786][B]With a name like dirtbag everyone should have figured you prefer the skins to take Albert[/B], but I agree 100% with you. I posted some similair comments about picking him under another thread. I am fearful that if the skins don't get atl east one O-line starter out of this draft they could be in trouble down the road. All you have to do is look at KC and you can see what happens to a team when their O-line breaks down.[/quote]

Lol, I actually never thought of that. Thank you though, for bringing up KC. I personally think they're the ultimate example of two extremes. At one point they had what I think was the best Offensive Line in the league. It was so good that they made guys like Priest Holmes and LJ comprable to LT. Derrick Blaylock averaged 4.6 YPC on 118 carries in 2004. Trent Green had time to find guys who were part of a no better then decent recieving core (save T. Gonzalez and maybe Eddie Kennison).

Now I'd say they're Offensive Line is one of the worst in the league. LJ averages 3.5 YPC, though in all honesty they started to improve a few games before the guy got injured. Brodie Coryle and Damon Huard were sacked 53 times last year. Jason Campbell and Todd Collins were only sacked 28 times.

And of course a lot of people will say, "ok that settles it, see only 28 sacks all year. We're 1337 baby." However I say thats not it. Our offensive line is getting old, and we lucked out last year with the development of Stephon Heyer. However last time I checked we need 5 OL and all 5 of our current starters are over 30.

Drafting a guy like Brandon Albert with the floor and ceiling that he has is a safe bet in my eyes. Plus we'd be getting the best interior lineman in the draft. With DE we'd be getting the 4th or 5th best prospect. WR maybe the 2nd or 3rd best. DT the 3rd best prospect.

However todays main point in the draft Brandon Albert propaganda that I'm putting out is the fact that we play in the NFC East. A division with defenses that know how to get after the passer. The Giants go without saying, the Eagles like to bring the house, and the Cowboys have Demarcus Ware and Gregg Ellis coming after QB's with reckless abandon not to mention Anthony Spencer waiting in the wings.

One of the reason Albert is considered a potential LT is his pass protection ability and in a division that knows how to get after the passer, this will prove invaluable. He would be lined up next year on Justin Tuck when they move him to the 3 technique and he's quick enough to get outside and stop a LB coming around the edge while Samuels is distracted by his guy going inside.

I know it's tempting to try and copy the Giants, but finding dominant D-Lineman is easier said then done. And theres a lot of guys along the D-Line that are either bust or just turn out to be decent starters. Of course that depends on the coach but I don't think our pass rush is lacking nearly as much as people says it is. If we played pure Tampa-2 then I might agree, but this is a blitzing team that likes to use Tampa-2.

Anyway I'm glad that people are starting to come around to liking Brandon Albert, even if he's not peoples 1st or 2nd choice, its still nice to see that people appreciate the guys upfront.

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Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-13-2008 11:36 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[QUOTE=hagams;431798]You can see what happens to a team when thier O-line breaks down, by looking at our last season. Agreed, dude is a beast on paper. Endurance, and mobility can be worked on. But, if our O-line stays healthy this year, how big of a pick would he be for us? We need to somehow find that "One Guy" that will make an impact.[/QUOTE]

Statistically, we roughly have a 50-50 chance of drafting a bust at 21. We have about a 1 in 5 chance of drafting an immediate impact player. We have even worse odds of drafting an immediate impact player at a position of need (WR, CB, DT). In any event, it makes the most sense to draft a guy who is most likely to have a long-term impact, not a guy who is just going to fill an immediate need.

Dirtbag59 03-13-2008 11:48 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;431861]Statistically, we roughly have a 50-50 chance of drafting a bust at 21. We have about a 1 in 5 chance of drafting an immediate impact player. We have even worse odds of drafting an immediate impact player at a position of need (WR, CB, DT). In any event, it makes the most sense to draft a guy who is most likely to have a long-term impact, not a guy who is just going to fill an immediate need.[/quote]


With that said, whats the point of drafting for need if the player you draft is going to be off the team in a few years? (Taylor Jacob's anyone?) I say draft for need when it makes sense. I know it sounds obvious but it seems that lots of teams ignore common sense when it comes to the draft. Kind of like how the Chargers took LSU's slot reciever, Craig Davis, in the first round. Ironically they had to give up a 2008 2nd round pick midway through the season to acquire Chris Chambers.

Every NFL team has holes, and our's are realtively small. We can deal with not having a possible Superman at Reciever. Hell we've done it in the past and so have many other teams that did it went on to win the Super Bowl (Buc's, Ravens, Steelers, Giants (Plax isn't Randy Moss), Patriots) . With that said I want to stick to doing what we do best, identifying talented guys up front.

On a side note, lots of teams have systems, coaching, and personell set ups where they could virtually take any guy at a certain position and turn him into a quality starter. Like for example the Steelers know how to find LB's, the Colts can plug in virtually anyone at WR, LB, and CB, and the Patriots specialize in finding D-Lineman and DB's. The Redskins are best IMO at finding Offensive Lineman and Linebackers.

freddyg12 03-14-2008 10:51 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;431859]Lol, I actually never thought of that. Thank you though, for bringing up KC. I personally think they're the ultimate example of two extremes. At one point they had what I think was the best Offensive Line in the league. It was so good that they made guys like Priest Holmes and LJ comprable to LT. Derrick Blaylock averaged 4.6 YPC on 118 carries in 2004. Trent Green had time to find guys who were part of a no better then decent recieving core (save T. Gonzalez and maybe Eddie Kennison).

Now I'd say they're Offensive Line is one of the worst in the league. LJ averages 3.5 YPC, though in all honesty they started to improve a few games before the guy got injured. Brodie Coryle and Damon Huard were sacked 53 times last year. Jason Campbell and Todd Collins were only sacked 28 times.

And of course a lot of people will say, "ok that settles it, see only 28 sacks all year. We're 1337 baby." However I say thats not it. Our offensive line is getting old, and we lucked out last year with the development of Stephon Heyer. However last time I checked we need 5 OL and all 5 of our current starters are over 30.

Drafting a guy like Brandon Albert with the floor and ceiling that he has is a safe bet in my eyes. Plus we'd be getting the best interior lineman in the draft. With DE we'd be getting the 4th or 5th best prospect. WR maybe the 2nd or 3rd best. DT the 3rd best prospect.

However todays main point in the draft Brandon Albert propaganda that I'm putting out is the fact that we play in the NFC East. A division with defenses that know how to get after the passer. The Giants go without saying, the Eagles like to bring the house, and the Cowboys have Demarcus Ware and Gregg Ellis coming after QB's with reckless abandon not to mention Anthony Spencer waiting in the wings.

One of the reason Albert is considered a potential LT is his pass protection ability and in a division that knows how to get after the passer, this will prove invaluable. He would be lined up next year on Justin Tuck when they move him to the 3 technique and he's quick enough to get outside and stop a LB coming around the edge while Samuels is distracted by his guy going inside.

I know it's tempting to try and copy the Giants, but finding dominant D-Lineman is easier said then done. And theres a lot of guys along the D-Line that are either bust or just turn out to be decent starters. Of course that depends on the coach but I don't think our pass rush is lacking nearly as much as people says it is. If we played pure Tampa-2 then I might agree, but this is a blitzing team that likes to use Tampa-2.

Anyway I'm glad that people are starting to come around to liking Brandon Albert, even if he's not peoples 1st or 2nd choice, its still nice to see that people appreciate the guys upfront.

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love this post!

It does seem o linemen have a lower bust % than d-line & wr, which are both high boom-bust positions. Think back to the glorious draft of 2000. We had the #2 & #3 overall picks. We were initially high on Peter Warrick, but after further review, the coaches fell in love w/Chris Samuels. So, how'd that work out?

I think Albert is a perfect fit for us. Play him at guard & then move him to RT when Jansen retires.

That Guy 03-14-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
outside running wouldn't be his best thing, since he's slow and has issues with moving targets. i wouldn't be mad if we picked him, and he could start immediately, but he doesn't really seem all that much better than ben grubbs was.

GTripp0012 03-14-2008 12:50 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Grubbs is a very different player, but if Albert was as good as him, that would justify the 21st pick.

That Guy 03-14-2008 01:03 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
i'd prefer grubbs ;) but again, i wouldn't be upset with albert.

DGreene28 03-14-2008 01:11 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=That Guy;432043]outside running wouldn't be his best thing, since he's slow and has issues with moving targets. i wouldn't be mad if we picked him, and he could start immediately, but he doesn't really seem all that much better than ben grubbs was.[/quote]

Don't believe that report... they have to put something negative for everybody. From what I saw he was mauling LB and DB in the open field like they stole something. DUde has a serious mean streak and I like it.

Dirtbag59 03-14-2008 01:37 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=DGreene28;432063]Don't believe that report... they have to put something negative for everybody. From what I saw he was mauling LB and DB in the open field like they stole something. DUde has a serious mean streak and I like it.[/quote]

Well, lets pretend for a second that the opinion stated in the report is as true as an opinion can be. The thing that worries me about Albert is he doesn't have lots of raw power like a Chilo Rachel. However the part that gives me hope is the guy reportedly has a mean streak, which makes me believe that Bugel is more then capable of teaching the guy technique when it comes to run blocking.

DGreene28 03-14-2008 02:37 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;432066]Well, lets pretend for a second that the opinion stated in the report is as true as an opinion can be. The thing that worries me about Albert is he doesn't have lots of raw power like a Chilo Rachel. However the part that gives me hope is the guy reportedly has a mean streak, which makes me believe that Bugel is more then capable of teaching the guy technique when it comes to run blocking.[/quote]

True he doesn't have the raw power of Chilo. But he is very agile and quick ... he was out in front of Simpson on run pull plays setting up multiple blocks. Some knockdown pancakes vs ACC competition. Not your typical engage and push down cakes but frieght train coming through players bouncing off him ala Sellers vs Kennedy... Then he keeps going looking for the next guy. Rachal is a great prospect too but I think ALbert is a next level type prospect. If we had Albert on one side and THomas on the other thats two really good pulling G's we could add whole new dynamic to our offense. Kendall is a nice G, but he can't stay in front of CP... don't even mention Fabini or Wade. Albert can stay out front of CP better then Thomas and Sellers next season. Did I mention Albert's reception and juke in the open field? It's a thing of beauty. I don't want to give away our hand or anything but if DRC, Albert and Hardy are all on the board when we pick... it will be a tough one.

That Guy 03-14-2008 02:55 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=DGreene28;432082]True he doesn't have the raw power of Chilo. But he is very agile and quick ... he was out in front of Simpson on run pull plays setting up multiple blocks. Some knockdown pancakes vs ACC competition. Not your typical engage and push down cakes but frieght train coming through players bouncing off him ala Sellers vs Kennedy... Then he keeps going looking for the next guy. Rachal is a great prospect too but I think ALbert is a next level type prospect. If we had Albert on one side and THomas on the other thats two really good pulling G's we could add whole new dynamic to our offense. Kendall is a nice G, but he can't stay in front of CP... don't even mention Fabini or Wade. Albert can stay out front of CP better then Thomas and Sellers next season. Did I mention Albert's reception and juke in the open field? It's a thing of beauty. I don't want to give away our hand or anything [B]but if DRC, Albert and Hardy are all on the board when we pick[/B]... it will be a tough one.[/quote]

i wouldn't worry too much about that, though that'd be ideal. if you include guys like merling, harvey, and thomas, then there's a real good shot that at least 1 or 2 fall to us. I really don't like the 2nd round DEs nearly as much as the 1st round guys though :/. late picks (DE hardie in the 6th, zuttah at OT possibly in the 5th, etc) at least give some hope of a late find.

that said, guards just dont go before ~28 in the draft unless they're really good. i mean, the best guard in the game sat on the draft board till 17, and he was constantly making blocks 20 yards downfield in college. If you're going conservative, OL/S in the first 2 rounds are clearly the safest bets.

DGreene28 03-14-2008 03:26 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=That Guy;432083]i wouldn't worry too much about that, though that'd be ideal. if you include guys like merling, harvey, and thomas, then there's a real good shot that at least 1 or 2 fall to us. I really don't like the 2nd round DEs nearly as much as the 1st round guys though :/. late picks (DE hardie in the 6th, zuttah at OT possibly in the 5th, etc) at least give some hope of a late find.

that said, guards just dont go before ~28 in the draft unless they're really good. i mean, the best guard in the game sat on the draft board till 17, and he was constantly making blocks 20 yards downfield in college. If you're going conservative, OL/S in the first 2 rounds are clearly the safest bets.[/quote]

I like Zuttah too but he is no where near the impact Albert would have. Merling and Harvey are nice they just didn't excite me like Albert or DRC in the first. I was impressed with Ellis from VT and Thompson from Wake at DE , maybe in the 4th round.

SmootSmack 03-14-2008 03:36 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[QUOTE=DGreene28;432088]I like Zuttah too but he is no where near the impact Albert would have. Merling and Harvey are nice they just didn't excite me like Albert or DRC in the first. I was impressed with Ellis from VT and Thompson from Wake at DE , maybe in the 4th round.[/QUOTE]

DGreene, I'd love to watch some Rachal and Scheuning highlights (I like them both for rounds 2-4). I'll email you and see if we can find sometime next week to get together.

freddyg12 03-14-2008 04:05 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=DGreene28;432088]I like Zuttah too but he is no where near the impact Albert would have. Merling and Harvey are nice they just didn't excite me like Albert or DRC in the first. I was impressed with Ellis from VT and Thompson from Wake at DE , maybe in the 4th round.[/quote]

Ellis was on Kiper's big board early in the offseason, now I don't know what he's projected as, but I'd bet 3rd round at the latest. He had a good combine. I don't know if Ellis is built to play 4-3 end, he might be more appealing as an olb to 3-4 teams.

leisureworld 03-30-2008 12:41 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Albert has the raw tools to play tackle so if a team will draft him high it will be to do just that with the backup plan being guard.

Dirtbag59 04-02-2008 01:08 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Guys forget this thread. Albert is now a top 5 pick according to Mel Kiper :(. (Don't worry Smootsmack someone will catch on.)

GMScud 04-02-2008 01:45 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;436571]Guys forget this thread. Albert is now a top 5 pick according to Mel Kiper :(. (Don't worry Smootsmack someone will catch on.)[/quote]

Mel Kiper doesn't know his ear from his....

He had Albert and Talib going in the 21-25 range just last week. Now out of the blue he has them at 5 and 7 respectively.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 04-02-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;436769]Mel Kiper doesn't know his ear from his....

He had Albert and Talib going in the 21-25 range just last week. Now out of the blue he has them at 5 and 7 respectively.[/QUOTE]

Is his mock based on what he thinks WILL happen or what he thinks SHOULD happen?

GMScud 04-02-2008 01:55 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;436771]Is his mock based on what he thinks WILL happen or what he thinks SHOULD happen?[/quote]

Not sure. Here's the link: [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&page=kipermock080401]ESPN - Look for Parcells to draft lineman with No. 1 overall pick - NFL[/url]

He also has Malcolm Kelly going from the number 1 receiver in the draft to not even a 1st rounder anymore. ???

He said Brandon Albert has convinced scouts he will be a great tackle, not a guard, so apparently he is intending on switching positions. So Kiper thinks the Chiefs will use the 5th overall pick on a college guard transitioning to NFL tackle???

I don't know about Kiper...

Dirtbag59 04-03-2008 01:58 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Apparently Kiper isn't the only one anymore.

Found this on a comment in JLC's blog and I doubt that it's to far off, though I'll have to see for myself

"If Branden Albert is still there at #21, we grab him! He is getting rave reviews on every sports show I watch (and there are many). [B]However, he will not be there...in fact, both Mike Mayock and Charles Davis (NFL Network) have now moved him up to their Top 5 picks![/B]"

Man, and to think, at one point people here thought I was dumb for wanting to take him at 21.

FRPLG 04-03-2008 02:39 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
I didn't think you were dumb. I am disappointed people have figured out how good he is. We have to remember that getting a stud at 21 is near impossible. We'll need to get lucky.

Dirtbag59 04-03-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=FRPLG;437143]I didn't think you were dumb. I am disappointed people have figured out how good he is. We have to remember that getting a stud at 21 is near impossible. We'll need to get lucky.[/quote]

Lol, thanks but I guess I wasn't specific enough. There were a few people that felt I was off my rocker and ironically some of them are posters that I really like, but thats neither here nor there.

However right now I'm on the trade down bandwagon, and I'm starting to think that if Merling falls through we would be able to pick up an extra second round pick as well as Jacksonville's 1st which would justify the Redskins selecting Campbell with their first pick, since many feel now that taking him at 21 is to early. And as much as I love Merling, the front office might feel like they can do more damage with an extra second round pick.

Dirtbag59 04-09-2008 09:20 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Apparently Branden Albert is really making headways these days, to the point where people are posting actual film (not highlights) of the guy. With that said I've only watched the first few minutes and the guy is a monster when it comes to turning the corner on pulls and traps. However he seems to be standing around after to many plays instead of hitting someone. Anyway I'll have to finish watching but this is great, rarely do I get the chance to evaluate footage like this on a prospect

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That Guy 04-09-2008 10:16 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
he seems to do a lot well, needs a little work on the small things... i wonder if he can pull like that in the NFL though. I mean, dockery did it, but he's not going to pull like randy thomas does. he can bulldoze though.

Dirtbag59 04-09-2008 10:21 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[quote=That Guy;438723]he seems to do a lot well, needs a little work on the small things... i wonder if he can pull like that in the NFL though. I mean, dockery did it, but he's not going to pull like randy thomas does. he can bulldoze though.[/quote]

I don't know, in terms of the actual pull itself, I think he does a better job of getting in position then Thomas does, but on the bulldozer point I agree with you. If anything Albert just doesn't look real aggressive.

Also gotta repost the videos since the thread ended up a new page I'll also use this post to throw in cliff notes.


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Dirtbag59 04-09-2008 10:54 PM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
[SIZE=2]Miami Game:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]0:03 - Good job on the pull, but is late getting to defender forcing the play a few more yards outside and preventing the RB from running North-South[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]0:17 - Does a good job timing screen but doesn't hit anyone [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]0:24 - Does a good job driving defender away from the play[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]0:33 - Does an excellent job on the pull and getting in the way of the defender but doesn't finish[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]0:58 - Excellent job on the pull, creates a running lane, doesn't finish block[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]1:04 - Does a good job of opening a lane and taking #54 out of the play[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]1:10 - EXCELLENT JOB of pulling and then turning up inside and finishing the blcok[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]1:30 - Does a good job getting off the ball and driving defender away from the play[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]1:40 - Great job on the pull, finishes off defender and pushes him out of bounds[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]1:50 - Good job of getting downfield on screen but has trouble engaging the defender in space[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2:00 - Great pull and does a good job of walling defender off making it possible for runner to get upfield[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2:10 - Does a great job pulling but DOESN'T FINISH. As a result defender makes a play for a loss[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2:25 - Nice job getting in position on the bootleg, drives defender past QB[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2:38 - Great pull and does a good job creating a running lane, TOUCHDOWN[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2:58 - Great pull, but forgets to finish[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:08 - Fires off the ball and pushes defender 6-7 yards off the LOS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:16 - Misses defender on pull leads to TFL[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:24 - Excellent job walling off defender and creating a running lane[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:33 - Reaches on pass pro, saved by QB's quick release[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:40 - Overshoots on pull[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3:50 - Nice job on pull, DOESN'T FINISH[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]4:11- Nice pull butagain doesn't finishand ends up getting driven into the backfield[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Due to the lack of pass plays I can only assume that scouts love his ability as a pass blocker. However after watching this "film" it's obvious that he needs a lot of work in the run game especially when it comes to finishing. [/SIZE]

GTripp0012 04-10-2008 12:14 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Ross Tucker did say that most Guards are pretty similar with regards to the running game.

Of course if they plan to use him at tackle over time, this is certainly something they should consider.

That Guy 04-10-2008 03:01 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
seems like a stretch for a top 10 pick. i think his value is around #20, and hopefully he'll be around then.

HOGTIMUS PRIME 04-10-2008 05:39 AM

Re: Brandon Albert
 
Love some big O-linemen but I think #21 is a stretch for this kid.

MTK 04-17-2008 01:44 PM

Branden Albert
 
I keep reading that the Skins are interested in Albert (and who wouldn't be) but what's the likelihood of him being there at #21, or even making it out of the top 10??

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-17-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Branden Albert
 
I dont see him making it to 21 but I wouldnt be so eager to draft him. I would rather get a DE or DT in the first round.

Dirtbag59 04-17-2008 02:04 PM

Re: Branden Albert
 
I r start Branden Albert thread. Y u create duplicate thred? This is such a big f**king deal. Lulz we r put u on thread probation. I wun merge

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TheMalcolmConnection 04-17-2008 02:06 PM

Re: Branden Albert
 
??? Que?


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