Kelly Critical of OU After Disappointing 40 Time
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d807adeab&template=with-video&confirm=true]Kelly critical of Oklahoma after disappointing performance[/url]


NORMAN, Okla. -- Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly lashed out at Oklahoma on Wednesday after a disappointing performance in a 40-yard dash in front of NFL scouts.


Kelly, who left Oklahoma after his junior season, blamed his slow time of 4.68 seconds on an unexpected change in surfaces at his pro day.


"This is my life. You know what I'm saying? This ain't no school. This ain't no classroom. This ain't got nothing to do with that," Kelly said. "This has to do with me; my family. This is what I do. I play football. And I'm supposed to come out here and run as fast as I can." ...



1) No, surfaces are not the same, and of course you will run a little faster on a track than on grass or turf, but obviously scouts aren't stupid and they account for such differences by adding tenths to times run on a track etc. Maybe he could impress some internet guys, but good scouts know the score.

2) Even before the 40 time he had likely slipped out of the first round because of questions about his knees, so I'm not sure he should really be blaming OU, it just makes him come off as a whiner and doesn't help him much. The "this ain't no classroom" comment also doesn't do much for me and the tone of the thing sounds like something Brandon Lloyd would say. "Lost the ball in the lights? Are you crazy? The quarterback sucks, it ain't my fault!"

3) Looks like he has a visit scheduled to Washington. If he were to be on the board at 51 (but not 21) it would be a nice pick. If I remember, Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 or 4.8 and he has turned out ok. I've heard Kelly is a high character guy, but this outburst doesn't help him much in my book. I can understand the frustration, though, and if he checks out otherwise the disappointing 40 time might be a good thing for the Skins.

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Oh, and this should be moved to the draft forum. Apologies.

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I do not like the 40 yard dash for one reason and this might or might not have anything to do with Malcom Kelly's performance. There are some people who just cannot run well against air. There are those guys like Jerry Rice who will run a poor 40 time without competition or anyone to beat. If you take that same player and give him someone to run against, then he will blow the doors off of the place. This is similar to, but not the exact same thing as football speed vs. 40 speed. Some guys just need competition.

Now I understand that this was not his complaint, but it very well might have been part of the problem.

As far as an outburst is concerned, I believe that it is completely understandable because any sort of drop in draft status lightens your pockets. I would be pissed too if I went into a situation expecting one thing and getting another.

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I wish I could run a 40 that fast :(. I guess if he thought he was running on one thing and trained to run his 40 on that and they switched it up on him it probably took him out of his comfort zone. He was probabl to concerned with the grass and cuased a bad start or something while he was running.

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[quote=Redskin;438840]I wish I could run a 40 that fast :(. I guess if he thought he was running on one thing and trained to run his 40 on that and they switched it up on him it probably took him out of his comfort zone. He was probabl to concerned with the grass and cuased a bad start or something while he was running.[/quote]

If he is actually faster than that, then it is more likely an issue of being poorly conditioned due to his injury or not working enough on his starts. Don't they run the 40 on field turf in Indianapolis? Plus, scouts know you have to account for the surface and add tenths on a fast track. Also, maybe he's never been timed electronically, that makes a difference too.

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He's frustrated, but as much as his 40 time how he responds is just as important in the eyes of the scouts. Instead of criticizing the university and medical staff, he could have said something along the lines of "While I'm disappointed in my 40 time today, I've shown what I'm capable of on game day during my college career but I will continue working hard to improve all aspects of my game."

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[quote=SmootSmack;438842]He's frustrated, but as much as his 40 time how he responds is just as important in the eyes of the scouts. Instead of criticizing the university and medical staff, he could have said something along the lines of "While I'm disappointed in my 40 time today, I've shown what I'm capable of on game day during my college career but I will continue working hard to improve all aspects of my game."[/quote]

Exactly. His reaction might be more detrimental than the time.

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Take this whiney be-otch off of the draft board. Don't want him.

Character is equally as important as a few tenths of a second on a 40 time and this guy just showed his colors.

40 times run on a surface that isn't a "playing surface" are pretty irrelevent. I think that they should have to run with all of their gear on as well. "Game Speed" is what scouts are interested in.

Let some other sucker team draft this pain-in-the-ass.

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40 yard dash only means so much. If you're a small body guy then having a poor 40 time is a total eclipse of the heart, but for a big guy a slow 40 time isn't the end of the world, so long as they know how to run crisp routes and use their body to put themselves between them and hte ball. With that said I think I would take Brandon Flowers at 2-21 instead of Kelly.

We already have enough problems with players getting injured.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;438876]40 yard dash only means so much. If you're a small body guy then having a poor 40 time is a total eclipse of the heart, but for a big guy a slow 40 time isn't the end of the world, so long as they know how to run crisp routes and use their body to put themselves between them and hte ball. With that said I think I would take Brandon Flowers at 2-21 instead of Kelly.

We already have enough problems with players getting injured.[/quote]

I mean this statement as a point of information that is slightly interesting rather than an attempt to pick nits, but we actually pick at 2-20 because we alternate by round with the Buccaneers between picking 20/21 in each round.

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I don't see why this is news worthy. It's just another athlete whining about something. It really has nothing to do with his character, he's just speaking out. What athlete doesn't now-a-days?

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This 40 time makes me a huge advocate of trading down
imagine picking up a talent like limus smeed or malcom kelly in the 2nd round...

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[QUOTE=JDub21;438892]This 40 time makes me a huge advocate of trading down
imagine picking up a talent like limus smeed or malcom kelly in the 2nd round...[/QUOTE]

I would be absolutely thrilled to get Limus in the 2nd round. That kid has something special.

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"it's my life" LOL. Sounds like what a high schooler says to his parents when they find a bong or a fake ID in their room. I am not sure if I "know what he is saying" but Kelly should understand the NFL is about to be his daddy and if he wants to live in the same house he better man the F up and admit and fix his mistakes.

You know what I'm saying?

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[quote=hooskins;438897]"it's my life" LOL. Sounds like what a high schooler says to his parents when they find a bong or a fake ID in their room. I am not sure if I "know what he is saying" but Kelly should understand the NFL is about to be his daddy and if he wants to live in the same house he better man the F up and admit and fix his mistakes.

You know what I'm saying?[/quote]

I can digg what you's sayin.

While he certainly comes off the wrong way with his response, I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him in the second round if he fell that far. I've heard a couple people say he's not a character risk so I wouldn't mind having him on the team. And his forty time doesn't really matter, it's not the first time a big wide receiver has run a slow forty but succeeded in the NFL.

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[quote=mooby;438899]I can digg what you's sayin.

While he certainly comes off the wrong way with his response, I wouldn't mind taking a chance on him in the second round if he fell that far. I've heard a couple people say he's not a character risk so I wouldn't mind having him on the team. And his forty time doesn't really matter, it's not the first time a big wide receiver has run a slow forty but succeeded in the NFL.[/quote]

Yeah I agree. It sounds like frustration, but still a terrible answer. For the Skins interview he apologize and say the comment was out of frustration and he will try to improve his time.

Sounds like a good deal for a 2nd rounder if it happens.

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[quote=jsarno;438893]I would be absolutely thrilled to get Limus in the 2nd round. That kid has something special.[/quote]

Yes please. Please fall that far Limas. I say we don't draft another player with a red flag for bad knees. See Rocky McIntosh.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;438893]I would be absolutely thrilled to get Limus in the 2nd round. That kid has something special.[/QUOTE]

didn't monk have issues with staying healthy?
if he can be healthy, I would love to pick him up in the later rounds

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;438788][URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d807adeab&template=with-video&confirm=true"]Kelly critical of Oklahoma after disappointing performance[/URL]


NORMAN, Okla. -- Wide receiver Malcolm Kelly lashed out at Oklahoma on Wednesday after a disappointing performance in a 40-yard dash in front of NFL scouts.


Kelly, who left Oklahoma after his junior season, blamed his slow time of 4.68 seconds on an unexpected change in surfaces at his pro day.


"This is my life. You know what I'm saying? This ain't no school. This ain't no classroom. This ain't got nothing to do with that," Kelly said. "This has to do with me; my family. This is what I do. I play football. And I'm supposed to come out here and run as fast as I can." ...



1) No, surfaces are not the same, and of course you will run a little faster on a track than on grass or turf, but obviously scouts aren't stupid and they account for such differences by adding tenths to times run on a track etc. Maybe he could impress some internet guys, but good scouts know the score.

2) Even before the 40 time he had likely slipped out of the first round because of questions about his knees, so I'm not sure he should really be blaming OU, it just makes him come off as a whiner and doesn't help him much. The "this ain't no classroom" comment also doesn't do much for me and the tone of the thing sounds like something Brandon Lloyd would say. "Lost the ball in the lights? Are you crazy? The quarterback sucks, it ain't my fault!"

3) Looks like he has a visit scheduled to Washington. If he were to be on the board at 51 (but not 21) it would be a nice pick. If I remember, Anquan Boldin ran a 4.7 or 4.8 and he has turned out ok. I've heard Kelly is a high character guy, [B]but this outburst doesn't help him much in my book[/B]. I can understand the frustration, though, and if he checks out otherwise the disappointing 40 time might be a good thing for the Skins.[/quote]

I understand your reservations about this guy, but I have to disagree. I would liken it to a poor performance report like in any other profession. If that report reflects poorly on you (no matter how minute) b/c of some managerial blunders, you can bet you are going to take exception to it. Now magnify this issue by a factor of how much more money he has at risk (we're talking in the millions). I'd be pissed too, enough for at least a soundbyte and some press coverage to explain the situation

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If we trade back into the second round then it would seem we have the best chance of picking him up. KFFL reports the Titans, Steelers, Cowboys, Redskins, and Eagles are all showing a strong interest in Kelly. And if we got an early second we would be in the best position to select him.

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The guys on Sirius NFL were killing Kelly this morning for his outburst. Supposedly he didn't just give the quotes, but also went off at OU's strength and conditioning coach...

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So is it safe to say now that he's not going to the Bengals at 9?

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[quote=djnemo65;438976]So is it safe to say now that he's not going to the Bengals at 9?[/quote]

About as safe as standing under a net with Shaq shooting free throws.

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I've thought this guy was a good prospect for us, but this crap just reeks of Brandon Lloyd. I don't think I'm feelin' him anymore.

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As a sooners fan I've seen him play. Im not sold on him. Let him go elsewhere.

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[QUOTE=Smooter;438993]As a sooners fan I've seen him play. Im not sold on him. Let him go elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

Could you elaborate? Because from all I've seen of him play, he seems pretty solid

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;438903]Yes please. Please fall that far Limas. I say we don't draft another player with a red flag for bad knees. See Rocky McIntosh.[/QUOTE]

please don't tell me you are critical of mcintosh
few people realize this, but Mcintosh was instrumental in the Redskins defensive turnaround. His speed and athleticism gave Gregg Williams a lot more flexability with his defense (see: success of Sean Taylor and Laron Landry at free safety)

However, I have always been critical of giving two second rounders up to draft rocky.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;438994]Could you elaborate? Because from all I've seen of him play, he seems pretty solid[/QUOTE]

I know he's damn good in NCAA 08 ;]

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[QUOTE=JDub21;438904]didn't monk have issues with staying healthy?
if he can be healthy, I would love to pick him up in the later rounds[/QUOTE]

Yes, he'd be a steal, but he's projected 4th-5th. So we have no need to take him early. Check out the comment above my avatar, it's been like that since shortly after the season ended.
Monk is a great talent, and no one really knows it yet.

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speaking of talent in ncaa 08...

marcus monk=beast ahaha

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;438994]Could you elaborate? Because from all I've seen of him play, he seems pretty solid[/QUOTE]

Did you watch the Texas A&M or Colorado game when he was throwing tantrums for not getting the ball enough? How about two straight Fiesta bowls in a row where he got injured? This also isn't the first time OU has been bashed over something like this. In a December interview with the Tulsa World, Kelly's father, Moses Kelly, said his son was considering the direction of the OU offense and his use in it as a factor in making his decision. "Is his school going to design more plays to get balls for him, or is he going to run down field the majority of time blocking, which is mostly what he did this season?" Moses Kelly said. "He started off catching more, but as the season went along, he didn't get more than two or three touches a game. If the defense adjusts like that again and they can't get the ball more to him, he has to think about, 'If I stay, what would be the benefit?' " This is from Tulsa World. Its my opinion but I say no thanks to him. If we draft a WR I hope we overlook him and go after someone in later rounds.

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[QUOTE=Smooter;439044]Did you watch the Texas A&M or Colorado game when he was throwing tantrums for not getting the ball enough? How about two straight Fiesta bowls in a row where he got injured? This also isn't the first time OU has been bashed over something like this. In a December interview with the Tulsa World, Kelly's father, Moses Kelly, said his son was considering the direction of the OU offense and his use in it as a factor in making his decision. "Is his school going to design more plays to get balls for him, or is he going to run down field the majority of time blocking, which is mostly what he did this season?" Moses Kelly said. "He started off catching more, but as the season went along, he didn't get more than two or three touches a game. If the defense adjusts like that again and they can't get the ball more to him, he has to think about, 'If I stay, what would be the benefit?' " This is from Tulsa World. Its my opinion but I say no thanks to him. If we draft a WR I hope we overlook him and go after someone in later rounds.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for this. I guess I didn't know the whole story. I shoulda known better...but I don't work on college football anyway :)

I always felt like when given the opportunity he did well, but it seems like there's more to the story than that. Does he seem like another M. Westbrook to you?

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[quote=SC Skins Fan;438788][URL="http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d807adeab&template=with-video&confirm=true"]Kelly critical of Oklahoma after disappointing performance[/URL]


3) Looks like he has a visit scheduled to Washington. If he were to be on the board at 51 (but not 21) it would be a nice pick. If I remember, [B]Anquan Boldin[/B] ran a 4.7 or 4.8 and he has turned out ok. I've heard Kelly is a high character guy, but this outburst doesn't help him much in my book. I can understand the frustration, though, and if he checks out otherwise the disappointing 40 time might be a good thing for the Skins.[/quote]Danny, Vinny, and Spurrier picked [I]Taylor Jacobs[/I] with Anquan Boldin still on the board. I would take a slower, tougher guy who just makes plays over a soft pretty boy WR every time. I still like Kelly, and now perhaps we can get him in the 2nd round.

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Not sure what Kelly is thinking here:

[url=http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-6-63/The-Malcolm-Kelly-saga-continues.html]ESPN - The Malcolm Kelly saga continues - Hashmarks By Matt Mosley[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;439137]Not sure what Kelly is thinking here:

[URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-6-63/The-Malcolm-Kelly-saga-continues.html"]ESPN - The Malcolm Kelly saga continues - Hashmarks By Matt Mosley[/URL][/quote]

Wonder if he will run a sub 4.4 at his super secret private workout with zero pro scouts in attendance .... Yikes! Maybe we can get him with our compensatory pick if he just keeps acting crazy :)

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;439046]Thanks for this. I guess I didn't know the whole story. I shoulda known better...but I don't work on college football anyway :)

I always felt like when given the opportunity he did well, but it seems like there's more to the story than that. Does he seem like another M. Westbrook to you?[/QUOTE]

Hes a stud and I think he has what it takes to be in nfl, but not a #1 or even a #2. He needs to do some serious damage control or hes gonna scare his possible suitors off. Now that hes gone im ready to see what this guy can do.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=174564]ESPN - Juaquin Iglesias Stats, News, Photos - Oklahoma Sooners - NCAA College Football[/url]

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Malcom Kelly shouldn't be blaming the school, and it's medical staff for his bad time, he should have said it was all his fault, and it would have made him look good, and maybe some teams would give him a look from pick 15-20 area, if I were a GM, I wouldn't go after him until the second round.

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[quote=SmootSmack;439137]Not sure what Kelly is thinking here:

[URL="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks/0-6-63/The-Malcolm-Kelly-saga-continues.html"]ESPN - The Malcolm Kelly saga continues - Hashmarks By Matt Mosley[/URL][/quote]

Another bad move by Kelly. At this point we might be able to get him in the third round lol. Seriously why hold a private workout where no scouts are allowed? That doesn't help anything, it's only gonna make you look more odd.

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[QUOTE=mooby;439286]Another bad move by Kelly. At this point we might be able to get him in the third round lol. Seriously why hold a private workout where no scouts are allowed? That doesn't help anything, it's only gonna make you look more odd.[/QUOTE]

I think the latest is it will be in front of pro scouts but on astroturf, which is good because he'll get to run fas but bad because no stadium has astroturf anymore.

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[quote=SmootSmack;439313]I think the latest is it will be in front of pro scouts but on astroturf, which is good because he'll get to run fas but bad because no stadium has astroturf anymore.[/quote]

And the only people who will be fooled by a faster time are guys who run internet draft sites and live in their parent's basement. NFL scouts know what is going on.