So Now Who Do You Want?
 

With Williams gone, who do you want (not think should be) to be the next head coach of the Washington Redskins?

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That's a no-brainer. I'll take the coach with the most experience and a SB ring.

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ANyone but fassel is fine with me cause williams is gone

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Can we stop talking about Bill Cowher for crying out loud. He's not coming here. Jeez!!! I'll take Meeks.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;413356]That's a no-brainer. I'll take the coach with the most experience and a SB ring.[/QUOTE]

MEEKS?????

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My brain is about to explode. I can't even think straight.

This thing has gotten so nuts, I really don't know who I'd prefer.

While I'm concerned about the toll this has taken on the team, we're sure to have a VERY exciting season next year, for better or for worse.

I'm torn on Schwartz or Spagnuolo.

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Barry Switzer. Second choice Ronald McDonald.

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Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him.

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I'm going Cowher. What the hell? Who knows what's going to happen. I could see Fassel, Cowher, Schwartz all working out well or horrible. I have no idea what's going to happen and how it's going to go.

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Well - I know who I don't want: Cowher or Fassel.

As for the other three, God knows - who's the best bet? It's an F'ing crapshoot. Whichever one has (in no particular order): a)the balls to stand up to LDS, b) the ability to work with the existing coaching staff and c) the skill to mold a group of professional atheletes into a team.

My initial reaction is Schwartz, but it could just as easily be Meeks or Spag. My problem with all of them is that they all have a bit of the "flavor of the month" about them. Hopefully, we're getting the next Tomlin and not the next Cameron.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;413360]My brain is about to explode. I can't even think straight.

This thing has gotten so nuts, I really don't know who I'd prefer.

While I'm concerned about the toll this has taken on the team, we're sure to have a VERY exciting season next year, for better or for worse.

I'm torn on Schwartz or Spagnuolo.[/quote]


2nd all that . . .Especially Schwartz/Spagnolo . . . for the record I voted Schwartz

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;413356]That's a no-brainer. I'll take the coach with the most experience and a SB ring.[/QUOTE]

What he said but if I was HC of a team I would want my own assistants not the ones the owner picked out for me that could limit who wants to come to D.C.

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I hope they will wise up and try to talk Grimm into it. That would sooth sooo many fans.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;413387]What he said but if I was HC of a team I would want my own assistants not the ones the owner picked out for me that could limit who wants to come to D.C.[/quote]



My sentiments exactly. Unless Snyder has his man and is just waiting til after the SB to make the announcemnt a well seasoned HC might not want to come here. Sounds like Snyder is a total control freak!!!!!!!

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Jim Schwartz. Get it done on Monday.

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[quote=skinsfan69;413358]Can we stop talking about Bill Cowher for crying out loud. He's not coming here. Jeez!!! I'll take Meeks.[/quote]

I was a bit surprised to see him in the poll. But, since we're all in lala land anyway, I went with the best candidate out there, regardless of whether he should or could become the coach.

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i WANT A NEW OWNER

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;413403]I was a bit surprised to see him in the poll. But, since we're all in lala land anyway, I went with the best candidate out there, regardless of whether he should or could become the coach.[/QUOTE]

I decided to put him in there, just because the rumors won't die about him. I was hesitant to put him in there but ultimately went for it.

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Who do I want? None of the above.

Who will it be? The Skins will likely want to interview someone from one or both of the teams playing on Sunday. Based on who they interview, I could be convinced that set of interviews could identify a good hire. However, not every assistant on the Giants/Pats is a good candidate to be a HC somewhere else.

With regard to the theories proposed that all of this is a temporizing move just waiting until 2009 when Bill Cowher comes in and takes over, the perfect guy to be the one-year caretaker would be Joe Bugel. He has sucked in spades as a head coach, but if all you want is a seat-warmer, Joe's your guy - - and he already knows most of the players... No way he's expecting a long-term deal as a head coach in the NFL ever again.

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Think about it. Who ever comes in now has to be on page with GW's style of defense if you hire a defensive minded HC. You have just named one of his Asst. DC so you need to know a little about it. Or....if you are going to hire an offensive minded HC he has to be knowledgable in the WC style. I think that leaves the Giants coordinator out because he does not run the same defense. It might leave Rex Ryan out because he uses a different style but he may be able to imcorporate his style with our new DC. So now look at who you have, the Titans coordinator which will get along with our system, I'm not so sure about the Colts coordinator and the system he uses. It could be the NE coordinator but I see the Jets fumbling and the Browns are finally starting to get things going after several yrs.

Who's left Cowher and Fassell. Cowher is adamant he will not return until next yr. Although his daughter will be in the area and this would be a great gig for him. Not to mention you have to be in the state a yr before you get in state tuition not that money is an issue. If I were Cowher I would ask for the stars and all the money I could get out of DS and take the job early and mention my daughter as why I decided to take the job. The wonderful father wants to be close. I doubt he is coming though.

That leaves Fassell, the man who is looking to get back into coaching and wanting to revive his career. Perhaps even asking for the job on the cheap. If we do well then Fassell looks like a genius and so does DS. If Fassell stinks it up then it simply proves he's not coaching material.

I'll gaurantee you one thing though. You don't go interviewing people for coordinator jobs without the HC ok on who he wants for his staff. Coordinators do not take jobs not knowing who they would be working for. Everyone has mentiond Dallas but I'm sure Jerry had already had a phone conversation with Phillips and had an agreement prior to the OC getting hired and I'm sure the OC was informed of who the coach would be. I'm betting there is already a HC waiting for the announcement to be made. My gut is it's Fassell who has been directing DS as to who he wouldn't mind having. I could be wrong. This could be a hole assbackwards hiring process. I'm not sure how much Fassell knows about either coordinators style but if you are looking for a job and will take anything you take it and let the coordinators run the show.

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Ron Meeks......Young and intelligent with potential to grow. His future is ahead of him not in the past.

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Cowher, no way, IMO not a great head coach. I don't want a guy who has been out of the NFL two years. His best days are in the rear view mirror.

Fassel, no. He had a decent run in NY up to the SB year but after that..not so much. His best days are behind him also.

Schwartz, 2007 D was solid, but in 2004-06 his defense has been in the bottom four teams in the NFL in scoring D.

Spags, not enough on his resume. One decent year as a DC does not a HC make.

Meeks is the best on the list, impressive resume, consistent success. Tony Dungy isn't a bad mentor to have either.

I've said this in at least 5 or 6 other posts, we should take a look at Ron Rivera from San Diego for HC or DC under Meeks (if they can work together). Blanche is very solid, but not a young man. Meeks, Rivera and Zorn would be a pretty solid top of the coaching staff for as long as Snyder can afford to pay them....and we all know that's not an issue.

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What happens if Rex Ryan is hired as the HC? I like him, but worry about his weight, he has to take better care of himself or the stress of coaching could kill him at a young age.

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Nice post Slingin. I can definitely see the case for Meeks, including his ties to the Redskins.

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Hands-down Cowher. Fassel is a close second. You have to grab experience whenever the opportunity presents itself. What would be so rotten about lending the keys to the mansion to Cowher for as long as he wants it? We've already had what amounts to a regime change among the coordinators, of course to a greater extent on the offensive front. These do not seem like Cowher's peeps however (Zorn and Blache), and I agree with one of the contributors on this topic who said it may have been Fassel throwing out strong hints as to who he'd be comfortable with that led to the hire/fire/promotion. You've already lost half of the "Gibbs DNA" as it is with GW's firing. I'm more interested in what we do with the personnel. Cut ties with the aging, injury-prone veterans on defense (Griffin, Springs) and draft that stud DE to make us a more fierce blitzing unit. The West Coast Offense will suit many of our current offensive staff, methinks. Randle El may outproduce Santana in receptions and yards next season. Cooley will remain a fantastic endzone threat. We'll see a new and invigorated Clinton Portis catching short dunks and dinks and spreading defenses out on tosses and sweeps. I am optimistic about our prospects.

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is it monday yet.....this is getting more irritating by the day

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I tried but am to tired an lazy to figure out what system each coach uses and if they would be a match with any of the new coordinators. All I've done so far is find Cowher: he started out as a special teams coach then a DC under Schotty. I don't think it's the same defense that Blache uses though.

Fassell: was an OC. not sure if he was WC oriented though.

Spagnoulo: he coached the D in Philly and prior to that worked under Bobby Beathered in San Diego. not sure if he runs the same defense.

Meeks: has been all around the league including Washington back in 2000. not sure if that was when Lewis was around but if so then he might run a similar D as to what we already have.

Then I got tired of looking. lol. The other idea is that the coach is only going to be a figure head. Someone to lead the team. Let the coordinators run the show. Then Fassell probubly would not be bad. I can't see Cowher taking this job with these coordinators just like someone else said....does not seem to be his type of people. Although maybe he wants to try something new....a different type of offense. unless I'm wrong and he had the WC in place in Pitt. If the idea was to get younger at the coaches spots also then as you all have mentioned why Blache unless they were having a hard time getting a defensive coordinator and then your best bet is to keep status quo....we were in the top 10.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;413429]Cowher, no way, IMO not a great head coach. I don't want a guy who has been out of the NFL two years. His best days are in the rear view mirror.

Fassel, no. He had a decent run in NY up to the SB year but after that..not so much. His best days are behind him also.

Schwartz, 2007 D was solid, but in 2004-06 his defense has been in the bottom four teams in the NFL in scoring D.

Spags, not enough on his resume. One decent year as a DC does not a HC make.

Meeks is the best on the list, impressive resume, consistent success. Tony Dungy isn't a bad mentor to have either.

I've said this in at least 5 or 6 other posts, we should take a look at Ron Rivera from San Diego for HC or DC under Meeks (if they can work together). Blanche is very solid, but not a young man. Meeks, Rivera and Zorn would be a pretty solid top of the coaching staff for as long as Snyder can afford to pay them....and we all know that's not an issue.[/quote] I think we can forget Cowher . No way Cowher coaches a team built by Vinny . Dan better hope the new guy wins right out of the gate .If Fassell is the guy ,,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .

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I would love to have Mike Singletary come in here and take over the job. I've said before that I'm also high on both Caldwell and Meeks. I know Caldwell is done now, so I suppose, if I had to choose from the list...it's Meeks.

Also, supposedly McDaniel is on the list for possible head coaches. I thought he had said that he would stay with NE next season. If that turns out to be false, I wouldn't mind him.

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who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?

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[quote=budw38;413439]I think we can forget Cowher . No way Cowher coaches a team built by Vinny . Dan better hope the new guy wins right out of the gate .If Fassell is the guy ,,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .[/quote]

Ok we have two great back ups right. lol. The kid from Maryland and Palmer. lol. Why not start fresh all around. lol.

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[QUOTE=SBXVII Spagnoulo: he coached the D in Philly and prior to that worked under Bobby Beathered in San Diego. not sure if he runs the same defense.
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He actually started his NFL career with the Redskins in 1983 working as an intern/gopher for Charlie Casserly.

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no one that wants to stand up to snyder is going to get hired. i think that's part of the deal, that you let him run around feeling important and making deals that may or may not be good for the team.

i'm mad with how it's gone down, and outside a surprise deal for cowher or fisher, i don't really understand how this whole episode is going to make the team better or provide stability... cause every year we've made a major change in staffing, we've had a terrible record to show for it.

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[QUOTE=JCK and RFK;413441]who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?[/QUOTE]


Haven't you learned already that we do things in an unconventional manner here? We're going to get to the mountaintop without the courtesy of a climb. Maybe we'll rent another limosuine ride to take us there.

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[quote=budw38;413439],,, looks like Collins will leave , now we need 2 backup qb's not to mention a big Wr. I can't see Moss and R. EL holding up all year if they run all those crossing patterns used in the west coast offence .[/quote]
Not a big deal. Outside of the last 4 games I sure didn't hear too many folks signing Collins' praises. He appears to know Saunders' system but his arm is weak and he sure didn't keep his composure very well against Seattle. Finding a couple backup QBs won't be a big issue. We needed a big WR anyway, but we do have Anthony Mix (6'5"). Branch, Engram and Burleson (all 6' & under) held up pretty well and Seattle's offense did well even without a running game.

By no means were GW & Saunders without flaws, there was many a week those two were getting hammered right here. If Snyder and Cerrato want to go another direction and they are hiring talented coaches, let's give it a chance. The players sure will, they're well paid and under contract.

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I mean at this point Cowher is a pipe dream (for this year at least), but if we're talking in hypotheticals of course I'd take The Chin. So that's who I voted for.

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[quote=JCK and RFK;413441]who wants to come coach a team who had all of snyders guys in place. how can you hire the whole coaching staff without a head coach?[/quote]
Maybe the "guys" just hired were recommended by one or some of the potential HC candidates and Snyder brought them in / re-signed them to show the new HC candidate/s Snyder will give him what he needs/requests.

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You've gotta admit that the longer Snyder buys time, the chances of a lucrative, just-can't-refuse offer for Cowher panning out increase exponentially. Strictly odds-speaking here.

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I'm gonna vote for Spags here, I see what he's done in Philly and what he did with the Giants d this season and I'll admit I've been impressed. I think a young up and comer is the way to go in this league, I've taken notice of the trend around the league and I think we should go that way too instead of taking some retread from some other team. Schwartz could be a good candidate but I haven't been impressed with his D in Tennessee, I think it's been too inconsistent.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;413364]Schwartz or Grimm, I think they should ask Arizona for permission to interview him.[/quote]Schwartz runs effectively the same D as Williams, both coming from the Buddy Ryan tree of coaches. I hadn't really thought of Grimm, but that would be interesting as well.