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Dunno if you guys heard about this but the chick that said it is temporarily suspended. My family listens to Al Sharpton on the radio from time to time and I was listening yesterday. Needless to say, the guy is going apeshit over this.

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ap-golfchannel-anchor&prov=ap&type=lgns]Anchor suspended 2 weeks for "lynch" comment - Golf - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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I think she and her employers figured it might slide because who watches the Golf Channel? And they almost got away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids at Newsday.

Really inappropriate comments. She should know better.

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Al Sharpton's a tool. I think we can all agree on that. Still, that woman is insane for those comments. I read that article this morning and just shook my head. I don't care how friendly the intent was, there are things you just shouldn't think, let alone say.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;405688]Al Sharpton's a tool. I think we can all agree on that. Still, that woman is insane for those comments. I read that article this morning and just shook my head. I don't care how friendly the intent was, there are things you just shouldn't think, let alone say.[/quote]

Oh yeah. My folks don't normally listen to him but he just happened to be on the radio. I've learned about Sharpton and his tool-ness. :D

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[quote=DynamiteRave;405690]Oh yeah. My folks don't normally listen to him but he just happened to be on the radio. I've learned about Sharpton and his tool-ness. :D[/quote]

I think he's tool-less......

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The weird part was is she was trying to complement Tiger and just said something that sounded very wrong. She personally contacted Tiger and also made a public apology. Tiger did not take offense to what she said but Ali got involved and got her suspended for the two weeks.

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Sometimes this society is just too damn sensitive.

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Society isn't too sensitive if her choice of words were because of his skin color. That is a horrible thing to say. But maybe she just used those words and didn't relate them at all to tiger's race. I just think that is hard to do. Lynching someone from a tree brings brings one thing to mind. I don't know if she would have used the same words for a white person. Kind of like when Arthur blank made this comment

[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnedwSEHlrQ]YouTube - Racist? Arthur Blank on Michael Vick[/url]

I don't think arthur meant in that way though.

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;405782]Society isn't too sensitive if her choice of words were because of his skin color. That is a horrible thing to say. But maybe she just used those words and didn't relate them at all to tiger's race. I just think that is hard to do. Lynching someone from a tree brings brings one thing to mind. I don't know if she would have used the same words for a white person. Kind of like when Arthur blank made this comment

[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnedwSEHlrQ]YouTube - Racist? Arthur Blank on Michael Vick[/url]

I don't think arthur meant in that way though.[/QUOTE]

The way she said it, her entire demeanor and delivery would lead any reasonable person to conclude it was completely innocuous and nothing more than perhaps a poor choice of words for public TV.

Why "lynching" brings only one thing to mind is beyond me. A lynching is a mob killing without legal authority. If she's guilty of anything, it's of using an illustration that's ridiculously graphic and violent for the point she's trying to make, it has nothing to do with race.

It should be equally bad for her to say, "Well they'll have to stalk you down and blow your brains out in an ally before they can compete." If it's offensive, it ought to be offensive to a broad range of people simply because it's too violent an illustration for comparing it to golf.

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[quote=mheisig;405815]The way she said it, her entire demeanor and delivery would lead any reasonable person to conclude it was completely innocuous and nothing more than perhaps a poor choice of words for public TV.

Why "lynching" brings only one thing to mind is beyond me. A lynching is a mob killing without legal authority. If she's guilty of anything, it's of using an illustration that's ridiculously graphic and violent for the point she's trying to make, it has nothing to do with race.

It should be equally bad for her to say, "Well they'll have to stalk you down and blow your brains out in an ally before they can compete." If it's offensive, it ought to be offensive to a broad range of people simply because it's too violent an illustration for comparing it to golf.[/quote]

Eh. Well it's like my grandmother was saying that our generation (Which I'm assuming is everyone born from the 80's-90's) is a good generation in the fact that we don't automatically jump to look at things from a race perspective. My best friend is White and she tells me she doesn't see me as a Black person. She just sees me as D (Which is what my friends call me) and that its hard for her to see people as a race and she just sees people as people.

I think if she had said something about blowing his brains out in an alley, it would be criticized but she wouldn't lose her job for it. But society's really sensitive about race issues because I think we're trying so hard to move away from it, as soon as someone says something borderline offensive everyone has to throw the race card out there and say some shit about how racist they are.

What about when Dog said the N word about the woman his son was seeing? They took his ass off the air and I LOVE Dog the Bounty Hunter, I don't care how White trash they claim him to be and I felt terrible that A&E lost their damn mind about the situation. I kinda understand where Dog was coming from. Because my folks do the same damn thing. To them there are Black people and then there's the N word. And I think that's what Dog was getting at. And damnit his son was tapping the damn phone, wheres the repercussions in that?

I dunno. I'm kinda in the same boat as my best friend. I just see people as people. I just wish one day society could do the same thing.

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[QUOTE=mheisig;405815]The way she said it, her entire demeanor and delivery would lead any reasonable person to conclude it was completely innocuous and nothing more than perhaps a poor choice of words for public TV.

Why "lynching" brings only one thing to mind is beyond me. A lynching is a mob killing without legal authority. If she's guilty of anything, it's of using an illustration that's ridiculously graphic and violent for the point she's trying to make, it has nothing to do with race.

It should be equally bad for her to say, "Well they'll have to stalk you down and blow your brains out in an ally before they can compete." If it's offensive, it ought to be offensive to a broad range of people simply because it's too violent an illustration for comparing it to golf.[/QUOTE]


Seriously I agree 100% with this. I'm so sick of hearing about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson with this stuff. Its 100% obvious she didnt mean anything bad by this, hell she was complimenting him...yet she should lose her job...unreal imo.

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[quote=Gmanc711;405839]Seriously I agree 100% with this. I'm so sick of hearing about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson with this stuff. Its 100% obvious she didnt mean anything bad by this, hell she was complimenting him...yet she should lose her job...unreal imo.[/quote]

I understand they were friends but I don't understand how she was complimenting him.

"Faldo and Tilghman were discussing young players who could challenge the world's No. 1 player toward the end of Friday's broadcast at Kapalua when Faldo suggested that "to take Tiger on, maybe they should just gang up for a while."
"Lynch him in a back alley," Tilghman replied."



Maybe I'm just seeing this is in the wrong context because I don't know what came before it or after it. But if someone could just point me in the direction of the compliment...

And I think it would be stupid for her to lose her job over this, especially considering they were personal friends. I think what Fuzzy Zoeller said about him was far more demeaning.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;405849]I understand they were friends but I don't understand how she was complimenting him.

"Faldo and Tilghman were discussing young players who could challenge the world's No. 1 player toward the end of Friday's broadcast at Kapalua when Faldo suggested that "to take Tiger on, maybe they should just gang up for a while."
"Lynch him in a back alley," Tilghman replied."



Maybe I'm just seeing this is in the wrong context because I don't know what came before it or after it. But if someone could just point me in the direction of the compliment...

And I think it would be stupid for her to lose her job over this, especially considering they were personal friends. I think what Fuzzy Zoeller said about him was far more demeaning.[/QUOTE]



Basically the compliment came because they were saying that no one could beat Tiger and Nick Faldo said something along the lines of well maybe they need to all gang up on him and she said "lynch him in a back alley", basically saying thats the only way you can beat Tiger....

I mean I dont know who is/isnt African American on this website, but I'd really like to know if stuff like this is offensive to them. I just find that its insane that with all the crime going on in the world, this is what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are worried about.

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[quote=Gmanc711;405872]Basically the compliment came because they were saying that no one could beat Tiger and Nick Faldo said something along the lines of well maybe they need to all gang up on him and she said "lynch him in a back alley", basically saying thats the only way you can beat Tiger....

I mean I dont know who is/isnt African American on this website, but I'd really like to know if stuff like this is offensive to them. I just find that its insane that with all the crime going on in the world, this is what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are worried about.[/quote]

Well I am Black and I find it offensive but not to the point of where she should lose her job, but ONLY for the fact that they were friends prior to this incident which leads me to believe that she probably didn't mean it in the way that everyone is thinking she did. It'd be different if she was just some random woman and she didn't know him and was saying "lynch him". She's known the guy for 12 years! This was no personal attack or no racist comment, I think she meant "string him up" and what came out was lynch. Whoops!

She called the guy up and apologized to him and Woods released a statement saying that he didn't really care about what she said. And that should be it. There shouldn't be a huge uproar about it. As long as she goes to him and apologizes and he accepts it or shrugs it off and says "whatever we're still cool" that should be THE END. Theres no point in dragging this out and making some big social controversy out of it.

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[quote=mheisig;405815]The way she said it, her entire demeanor and delivery would lead any reasonable person to conclude it was completely innocuous and nothing more than perhaps a poor choice of words for public TV.

Why "lynching" brings only one thing to mind is beyond me. A lynching is a mob killing without legal authority. If she's guilty of anything, it's of using an illustration that's ridiculously graphic and violent for the point she's trying to make, it has nothing to do with race.

It should be equally bad for her to say, "Well they'll have to stalk you down and blow your brains out in an ally before they can compete." If it's offensive, it ought to be offensive to a broad range of people simply because it's too violent an illustration for comparing it to golf.[/quote]
while we don't agree on much, with this i think you are dead on. i really think she was trying to compliment woods. and society is way toooo sensitive

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;405883]Well I am Black and I find it offensive but not to the point of where she should lose her job, but ONLY for the fact that they were friends prior to this incident which leads me to believe that she probably didn't mean it in the way that everyone is thinking she did. It'd be different if she was just some random woman and she didn't know him and was saying "lynch him". She's known the guy for 12 years! This was no personal attack or no racist comment, I think she meant "string him up" and what came out was lynch. Whoops!

She called the guy up and apologized to him and Woods released a statement saying that he didn't really care about what she said. And that should be it. There shouldn't be a huge uproar about it. As long as she goes to him and apologizes and he accepts it or shrugs it off and says "whatever we're still cool" that should be THE END. Theres no point in dragging this out and making some big social controversy out of it.[/QUOTE]

But do you take offense to it from a racial standpoint or from the standpoint that it's basically an absurdly violent image to communicate a message about golf?

If, and I'm saying [B]if[/B] the instant reaction (as it appears in Sharpton's case) is to assume it's racially motivated and respond as such, it seems a bit "unfair" to the untold numbers of people of some color other than black who have undoubtedly been the victims of lynch mobs. Blacks simply are not the only people to have been victimized at the hands of lynch mobs or cruelly enslaved or discriminated against. That doesn't denigrate any of the suffering, but I think a broader historical perspective can be very helpful.

I guess to me it'd be more equitable to take offense (if offense has to be taken in the first place) because it's violent in general for no apparent purpose, rather than because it may or may not be racially motivated.

To me I rank the woman's comments as a poorly worded attempt at humor and a backhanded compliment. It would be along the lines me complaining that my wife is bugging me to take out the trash and a friend suggesting that I take her out back and beat her. Yeah, it wasn't meant seriously and no offense was intended, but it was in poor taste and could've been worded better. It's offensive and poorly thought out, but at what point do you just let it roll off your back?

To me it's hardly worth being fired over and having Al Sharpton release the legal hounds.

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Well honestly I take it offensive racially. But I guess that's because all thats been shoveled into my head is images of Blacks being lynched by Whites and I think you said something like that in your statement.

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She used the wrong word. That's it. She wasn't using an illustrative word to describe what white people would have to do to Tiger to beat him in golf. She meant that people in general would most likely have to physically impair him. The use of the word lynch was simply an unfortunate choice. The question I get out of this is why does one race get to decide that a certain word/term/phrase is offensive to their race? Did black people get lynched un the south? Yeah. More were simply killed by other means yet for some reason kill is not on the "banned" list. This is so utterly ridiculous.

[quote]I think if she had said something about blowing his brains out in an alley, it would be criticized but she wouldn't lose her job for it.[/quote]

I doubt anyone would have batted an eye if she simply used a different word or phrase honestly. It is what makes this so damn stupid.

I know we still have a lot of racist problems in this country but one of the biggest problems is that the Black Community has such total retards like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton as their leaders.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;405912]Well honestly I take it offensive racially. But I guess that's because all thats been shoveled into my head is images of Blacks being lynched by Whites and I think you said something like that in your statement.[/QUOTE]

Why is it offensive? Doesn't intent matter at all? She clearly did not mean it in the way some would like to portray. I know you know that. So I don't get why it is offensive. Shouldn't the offensive remark have been meant in a disparaging or ignorant way at least?

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[quote=FRPLG;405923]Why is it offensive? Doesn't intent matter at all? She clearly did not mean it in the way some would like to portray. I know you know that. So I don't get why it is offensive. Shouldn't the offensive remark have been meant in a disparaging or ignorant way at least?[/quote]

Well as a knee-jerk reaction I take it offensively. But I mean seeing as how they're close friends and such I don't and she apologized to him personally. I know she didn't mean it maliciously and that means a lot in my not taking offense to it as well. I said if she was just some random woman and he had no idea who she was, then I would be a little more offended.

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I think it was a terrible terrible choice of words... and she should absolutely be held accountable.

With that being said... 2 weeks should def. get her to critique her choice of words. Unless there is prior history, for a first "accidental" offense, this seems just. Something else happens down the road... then the axe most certainly will fall.

As far as Sharpton goes... I've spoken with many Black Americans who are angered that he feels the need to represent the black community. I tend to think it would irk me as well.

He's generally over zealous and an insult to many legitimate civil rights activists. Many times it seems he's out for personal prosperity, and doesn't speak legitimately for a very legitimate cause. Just my .02

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;405928]Well as a knee-jerk reaction I take it offensively. But I mean seeing as how they're close friends and such I don't and she apologized to him personally. I know she didn't mean it maliciously and that means a lot in my not taking offense to it as well. I said if she was just some random woman and he had no idea who she was, then I would be a little more offended.[/QUOTE]

Gotcha.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;405928]Well as a knee-jerk reaction I take it offensively. But I mean seeing as how they're close friends and such I don't and she apologized to him personally. I know she didn't mean it maliciously and that means a lot in my not taking offense to it as well. I said if she was just some random woman and he had no idea who she was, then I would be a little more offended.[/quote]

Al Sharpton = knee[B]jerk[/B]

Frankly, I agree with you. Unless any of us are black and are 50-70 years old, we can't really appreciate the implications and the memories that are evoked when a white person says "lynch a black man". That is the kneejerk part, and, frankly, is something that will probably take another generation to address (a combination of the progress that's been made over the last 50 years and "time heals wounds", sort of thing).

That said, after the kneejerk reaction, you have to look at context. There is [U]nothing[/U] in this situation that merits a suspension. Al Sharpton is notorious for dogpiling, and this is just another case of that. He really has no credibility, but he has clout, which enables him to pull crap like this.

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[quote=mheisig;405777]Sometimes this society is just too damn sensitive.[/quote]

Totally.

People seem to look for reasons to be pissed off about something. I really am amused every time I hear the phrase "dude disrepected me" (or another equivalent). If we expended the same energy in tolerance that we do trying to make more problems, we would have............no more problems.
Why fix anything when we can just lawyer up and bring it?????

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[quote=DynamiteRave;405829]I dunno. I'm kinda in the same boat as my best friend. I just see people as people. I just wish one day society could do the same thing.[/quote]

Words to live by..............

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[quote=Hog1;405994] Why fix anything when we can just lawyer up and bring it?????[/quote]

Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?

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[quote=onlydarksets;406012]Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?[/quote]
Take it Easy..........don't make me pull out my mouthpiece and sue you.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets;406012]Why's it gotta be a lawyer-thing?[/QUOTE]

Speaking of being overly-sensitive ;)

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[quote=Gmanc711;405872]Basically the compliment came because they were saying that no one could beat Tiger and Nick Faldo said something along the lines of well maybe they need to all gang up on him and she said "lynch him in a back alley", basically saying thats the only way you can beat Tiger....

I mean I dont know who is/isnt African American on this website, but I'd really like to know if stuff like this is offensive to them. I just find that its insane that with all the crime going on in the world, this is what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are worried about.[/quote]

I'm black and I found it VERY offensive. I took an African American studies class in college a long time ago. There were so many hate/lynching crimes that went unpunished that it's not even funny. Stuff that never ever made it to the headlines that I learned about. However I don't see the need for Al Sharpton to get involved and I don't think she should lose her job. The Golf Channel did the right thing. Sometimes people say stupid shit without thinking. She should know better.

However, here is my problem with what she said. Would Kelly T. have used those words if she was talking about Ernie Els, Phil Mickleson or Jim Furyk? I don't know. If I had to bet on it she probably would not have used that word if she was talking about a white person.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;406383]However, here is my problem with what she said. Would Kelly T. have used those words if she was talking about Ernie Els, Phil Mickleson or Jim Furyk? I don't know. If I had to bet on it she probably would not have used that word if she was talking about a white person.[/QUOTE]

See I disagree. I don't think she used the word lynch with any thought. I think it was just the first word meaning "do harm" that came to mind. I seriously doubt that she thought of an image of Tiger hanging from a tree when she said it. And I think she would have said the same thing whether he was black or white. The only people making this about his race are pople from his race.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;406383]I'm black and I found it VERY offensive. I took an African American studies class in college a long time ago. There were so many hate/lynching crimes that went unpunished that it's not even funny. Stuff that never ever made it to the headlines that I learned about. However I don't see the need for Al Sharpton to get involved and I don't think she should lose her job. The Golf Channel did the right thing. Sometimes people say stupid shit without thinking. She should know better.

However, here is my problem with what she said. Would Kelly T. have used those words if she was talking about Ernie Els, Phil Mickleson or Jim Furyk? I don't know. If I had to bet on it she probably would not have used that word if she was talking about a white person.[/QUOTE]

I think she would have,did you hear the conversation or just read about it?
When first reading about it I found it offensive also,but upon hearing the comment in context of the conversation it sounded perfectly innocent to me
Plus,if she was black and said this would this even be a topic? If Charles Barkley said something like this it would be laughed off. If race is going to hopefully one day be a non issue it shouldnt matter what race you are as regards to your comments,if its offensive its offensive,if she would have been Black and said this its a non issue in my opinion.
Also what if she would have been talking about Mickleson and she would have said take him out and shoot him in the head,is that less offensive? if it is why should it be? to me she was basically saying the only way to stop Tiger is to kill him because he's so frickin good and she would have made the same comment or something very similar about another golfer who was as good as tiger no matter what race they were.Was it a poor choice of words? obviously or it wouldnt be a topic,but there was nothing malicious about it and she shouldnt lose her job about it

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Maybe she meant no harm, but do people seriously use lynch out of the context of racial slurs, or describing our history? I really don't think so, or maybe that's just the crowd I hang out with.

Lynch is pretty much a taboo word.

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Just for the record I am a minority too.

I don't want to make this a race thing, but it's just interesting because it seems warpathers who are minorities see this in a different light. Might just not be the whole "Sharpton is a dick" thing this time, IMO.

I just bring the point up because it is interesting to see different viewpoints, and I am not really getting worked up. I think this is a constructive thread.

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[b]Tilghman was laughing during the exchange Friday with analyst Nick Faldo at the Mercedes-Benz Championship, and Woods' agent at IMG said he didn't think there was any ill intent. [/b]

[b]the Rev. Al Sharpton joined the fray by demanding she be fired immediately.[/b]

Sharpton does his best to stay in the fore front of society, and unfortunately, he does so by trying to tear down others and see things that aren't there. Mr. Sharpton is a huge racist, and it's about time HE is the one that is ignored.

I will agree it was poor choice of words, but not enough to fire someone...come on. This society is getting way too sensitive.

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I dont know, I just think you have to take everything in context. While when people wanted Imus fired, I think that there was something too that, while I think this just really was a poor choice of words and other than the suspension nothing should happen. I mean I'm sure we all make mistakes in life/at work, and this seemed to be just a mistake.

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I really don't like stepping into race issues.
People today just need to chill out and realize that we are all one people. This lady may not have made the comment in a racist way, but even in 2008 there are still people seeking retribution for something we weren't apart of, and still people trying to opress another man due to skin color, so it's still a major topic. It's completely insane.
The suspension is enough to satisfy me. I don't think it was meant the way it's been taken. Think of it, what sports writer, comentator, or annoucer would try to sneak in a racist remark on the world's best golfer? That's a lose/lose situation and not to mention career suicide.

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[quote=hagams;407430]I really don't like stepping into race issues.
People today just need to chill out and realize that we are all one people. This lady may not have made the comment in a racist way, but even in 2008 there are still people seeking retribution for something we weren't apart of, and still people trying to opress another man due to skin color, so it's still a major topic. It's completely insane.
The suspension is enough to satisfy me. I don't think it was meant the way it's been taken. [B]Think of it, what sports writer, comentator, or annoucer would try to sneak in a racist remark on the world's best golfer? That's a lose/lose situation and not to mention career suicide.[/B][/quote]

Still that doesn't give you an excuse to say whatever you want. I don't care if it makes sense what the intent was. Yeah she shouldn't lose her job, but it still is a big deal.

Asking people to lynch a black man is a racist comment. It simply should not be said.

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[quote=hooskins;407491]Still that doesn't give you an excuse to say whatever you want. I don't care if it makes sense what the intent was. Yeah she shouldn't lose her job, but it still is a big deal.

Asking people to lynch a black man is a racist comment. It simply should not be said.[/quote]

There's no doubt about that... I don't think anyone (at least I hope not) thinks she wasn't totally out of line with her comments. The question remains... was it malicious in intent? I personally have no idea. I don't know the woman, I didn't see the video, I don't even know the context that took place.

From what I hear, it was something absurdly innappropriate... beyond that of a simple lack of judgement, but not necessarily malicious. I posted earlier that I felt her suspension of 2 weeks would probably suffice, given that she's never had any prior history of these kind of "F" ups.

I think most of the comments about Sharpton are spot on. Even when he's right about an issue, I won't take him seriously. I don't think he's an accurate representation of the black community, and pretty much every African American I know can't stand him either.

I am not a minority... nor do I pretend to understand that I can relate to these issues. I just know from my friends, but that's about as far as I can relate.

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Interesting update. Golfweek editor was fired for putting a "noose" on the front cover. Thoughts?

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[QUOTE=hooskins;409626]Interesting update. Golfweek editor was fired for putting a "noose" on the front cover. Thoughts?

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I'd have fired him. It was too dumb not to. What a moron. The question is... How many other people saw this before it got printed and said to themselves "Hey this is a good idea"? They should be fired for incompetence also.