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Chief X_Phackter 12-31-2007 08:56 PM

How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Just curious as to what everybody is thinking about how the Skins should play the Seahawks on defense.

Do we play them conservatively rushing primarily four guys and play coverage? This has worked earlier against teams that are more pass oriented like the Seahawks have been lately.

Do we play aggressive and blitz early and often from disguised formations? We haven't done much of this so far this year, but GW can bring it like the best of them.

Do we key on stopping on the run? Alexander has played better as of late.

What does everyone think GW will dial up this weekend?

backrow 12-31-2007 09:00 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
GW will dial up whatever has worked best against da-haux all year. His D is usually a hybrid of whatever worked best. After all, da-haux have not won every game they have played this year, play in an unusually weak conference, and are not the highest seed for good reason.

Chief X_Phackter 12-31-2007 09:05 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=backrow;400003]GW will dial up whatever has worked best against da-haux all year. His D is usually a hybrid of whatever worked best. After all, da-haux have not won every game they have played this year, play in an unusually weak conference, and are not the highest seed for good reason.[/quote]


And what has worked best against "da-haux" this year.

I haven't watched more than a clip here and a clip there. I've just heard that their running game was pretty poor most of the season so Holmgren put it on Hasselbeck to get it going through the air (and he did), then their running game supposedly came around as of late.

2621_I Remember 12-31-2007 09:05 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;400002]Just curious as to what everybody is thinking about how the Skins should play the Seahawks on defense.

Do we play them conservatively rushing primarily four guys and play coverage? This has worked earlier against teams that are more pass oriented like the Seahawks have been lately.

Do we play aggressive and blitz early and often from disguised formations? We haven't done much of this so far this year, but GW can bring it like the best of them.

Do we key on stopping on the run? Alexander has played better as of late.

What does everyone think GW will dial up this weekend?[/QUOTE]

Its a must to stop Alexander... If he is contained I believe the skins will have a good chance to advance!

airsoftking 01-01-2008 07:02 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
I'm more concerned about their passing game. We stopped AP and Marion Barber so I think we have good chance of stopping their rushing offense, but we gotta put MH under pressure.

gabe1984 01-01-2008 08:01 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=2621_I Remember;400006]Its a must to stop Alexander... If he is contained I believe the skins will have a good chance to advance![/QUOTE]

I don't know what to think about Alexander. I believe he's had some nagging injuries for much of the year, and he's just recently become healthy. So, he could be dangerous if he's healthy. However, ever since Hutchison went to the Vikings, Seattle's running game just has not been the same.

dmek25 01-01-2008 08:49 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
it probably will be similar to what they used against Detroit. Seattle doesn't run the ball that much, and when they do, they aren't very effective

SFREDSKIN 01-01-2008 12:22 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Seattle will use a lot of screen passes to compensate for their not so strong running game. They better defend this or will end up like the NE game.

hawk fan 01-01-2008 01:58 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
from hawk fan there are teams i hate in the nfl the skins are not one of them if you win here in seattle i will cheer for you but your in for a game the hawks have not proved much thus far i think there out to prove something i am a season ticket holder and have followed them all year weve hidden our selves in the shadows so your trip down the yellow brick road will end saturday we are a home team your a good road team but quest is a hard place to play we could beat anyone at home to answer your question sack our quarterback you will have a shot

diehardskin2982 01-01-2008 02:02 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
stop hasselbeck is the key. keep him on his back at all cost. It was he who killed us in 05 so we have to stop him first.

Schneed10 01-01-2008 02:05 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=hawk fan;400158]from hawk fan there are teams i hate in the nfl the skins are not one of them if you win here in seattle i will cheer for you but your in for a game the hawks have not proved much thus far i think there out to prove something i am a season ticket holder and have followed them all year weve hidden our selves in the shadows so your trip down the yellow brick road will end saturday we are a home team your a good road team but quest is a hard place to play we could beat anyone at home to answer your question sack our quarterback you will have a shot[/quote]

Do they use punctuation marks in Seattle?

hawk fan 01-01-2008 02:06 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
from hawk fan there are teams i hate in the nfl the skins are not one of them if you win here in seattle i will cheer for you but your in for a game the hawks have not proved much thus far i think there out to prove something i am a season ticket holder and have followed them all year weve hidden our selves in the shadows so your trip down the yellow brick road will end saturday we are a home team your a good road team but quest is a hard place to play we could beat anyone at home to answer your question sack our quarterback you will have a shot

MTK 01-01-2008 02:08 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Seriously, can we buy a period up in here?

Hogroll 01-01-2008 02:13 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;400168]Seriously, can we buy a period up in here?[/quote]

Perhaps a "shift" key might help too.

dblanch66 01-01-2008 02:38 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
the D needs to take their game to them. DICTATE. Hauks can win at home but as long as the D keeps the pressure on baldy, I believe the Skins can win and go into Dallas next week.

Rock31 01-01-2008 04:38 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Unleash the hounds on Hasselbeck! EVERY QB is prone to making mistakes every now and then, and given our track record the last four games, the man-to-man coverage on the ends and steady, strong pressure up the middle have been winning us ballgames. When you introduce the likelihood of a soaking rain, which will be much worse of a slopfest than it was at FedEx against Dal, you'd have to believe the Hawks will be forced to keep it on the ground more than they're comfortable with. Negate quick dumpoffs by Matt H and avoid zone breakdowns in the secondary, and we should have as much fun as we want blitzing and bruising our counterparts.

I think if we're smart, we'll pick up on the wet forecast and chase 'em like bloodhounds. :spank:

BigSKINBauer 01-01-2008 05:03 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
It is important to always make an offense one dimensional. It won't be so hard to make the seahawks do this. We need to come out early and stuff the run. If we establish that they can't run on us we will then be able to defend the pass. An early lead on offense would be really important to causing this. They are a good passing team. its not like we can stop them from passing. However if they concentrate on the pass, so can we. We can stop them if we know they are passing.

Later in the game it'll be important to tease them and make them want to run. Maybe keep 5 guys in there but leave everyone else in coverage. Dare them to run but it will be important for us to stuff it. Our D-line is up for a really important performance. If they stuff the run like the past few weeks, this game is ours.

12thMan 01-01-2008 06:57 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=BigSKINBauer;400197]It is important to always make an offense one dimensional. It won't be so hard to make the seahawks do this. We need to come out early and stuff the run. If we establish that they can't run on us we will then be able to defend the pass. An early lead on offense would be really important to causing this. They are a good passing team. its not like we can stop them from passing. However if they concentrate on the pass, so can we. We can stop them if we know they are passing.

Later in the game it'll be important to tease them and make them want to run. Maybe keep 5 guys in there but leave everyone else in coverage. Dare them to run but it will be important for us to stuff it. Our D-line is up for a really important performance. If they stuff the run like the past few weeks, this game is ours.[/quote]

I think you said it best, BSB. Our last four games we've made the opponent one dimensional, and I have to believe that's the plan against Alexander and Seattle. The trick will be to make them abandon going to Alexander early and exploit other options.

Folks, Matt Hasselbdck is still a very good NFL quarterback. This guy is very much a rythm oriented passer. If he finds his groove early, he can present some problems for us. On the other side of the ball, the first time Todd Collins get's sacked, Quest will be going nuts!

This will be a tests of tests for our guys. Either way, I damn proud of 'em. Damn proud to say I'm a Redskin fan.

The Zimmermans 01-01-2008 08:08 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
We gotta blitz sparingly, because if we give up big plays early we can't control the game with our rushing attack.

We also need to mix up zone and man, or else Hasselback will pick us apart. We also gotta come out really fired up cause their guys will be better rested.

saden1 01-01-2008 08:23 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
I'm concerned about how we beat them on O. They have a good core of linebackers, two of which are going to the Pro-Bowl. It's going to be tough to defend that pass rush too. The O-Line, Samuels in particular, will have to step up.

To beat the Hawks we'll have to a) run up the middle, b) run some draw plays, c) run some shovel passes. Once we get the running game going it's going to be easier to throw the ball against their solid secondary.

SFREDSKIN 01-01-2008 08:34 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=saden1;400223]I'm concerned about how we beat them on O. They have a good core of linebackers, two of which are going to the Pro-Bowl. It's going to be tough to defend that pass rush too. The O-Line, Samuels in particular, will have to step up.

To beat the Hawks we'll have to a) run up the middle, b) run some draw plays, c) run some shovel passes. Once we get the running game going it's going to be easier to throw the ball against their solid secondary.[/QUOTE]

Julian Peterson is a big time player and is fast, Kerney a solid vet having a pro-bowl season and Tatupu is a run stuffer, Daryl Tapp, etc. We'll have our hands full, the OL needs to to be physical and let us run the ball.

BravesOnthePath 01-01-2008 09:00 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
All we gotta do is play with a lot of intensity and heart. The skins have gotta be pumped up for this game. We haven't made any serious noise in the playoffs since I was born for chrissake. It's a golden [COLOR=black]opportunity [/COLOR]here when we have a team we can definitely beat in round one (Seahawks) and a bunch of pansies coming round two. Sorry, but as long as all the fans wear those Jessica Simpson masks Dallas won't have a chance! haha...

But seriously, I think we have a great chance this year, we've just got to do what we've been doing and believe in ourselves! Our D has been phenomenal and I dont think that well have a big problem against the Seahawks. Lets just play ball and roll right through em'.

SouperMeister 01-01-2008 09:12 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Hasselbeck worries me - he is an excellent veteran QB that makes very quick decisions, which makes it difficult for the blitz to arrive in time. For that reason, I see Williams employing the Cover 2 that we ran against Detroit and GB early in the season, forcing Seattle to go to the underneath stuff. I just hope that we don't position our LB's 8 yards off the line of scrimmage as we did in Cover 2 earlier. With the way the front 7 is playing, I'm pretty confident that we'll stop the Seattle running attack.

4mrusmc 01-01-2008 09:22 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
I know what we can do. We can bring Ade Jimho back. Dude had a career day against the hawks. But seriously, if GW gives Matt H. some different looks, with bodies flying all around, and mad heart that would make Sean T. proud. We should be fine, because Matt H. doesn't get that kind of stuff playing in that moist-ass conference their in.

Thanks Matty for keeping 05 hawks and Skins in the Film Room. We could all do some research and just study that game.

skinsnut 01-01-2008 09:27 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
I wouldn't be suprised at 1st down 8 man fronts.
Hasselback is good but, eliminating a guaranteed 4 yard 1st down run is critical.
We want them one dimensional...and there is no way they will give up the pass...no way.
Hasselbeck would kill a zone...I expect a lot of man coverage with a deep help if possible.

...BTW, our corners can easily man up on Bobby Engram and company

4mrusmc 01-01-2008 09:37 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Hassleback is alot like Romo as far as avoiding rushes and making quick decisions, but I don't think that their receivers are as good as dallas'. Their good, don't get me wrong, but not T.O. good. Their rushing attack isn't what it was back in 05 when we played them, but then again alexander was knocked F-out in that game so that is a moot point anyway. The one key to this match-up to this game compared to 05 is that the Skins are not as one dimensional on offense like we were. Our offense is starting to spread the ball around to different playmakers. But, to sum this up we are playing like a total team with heart and something to prove.

SouperMeister 01-01-2008 09:48 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=4mrusmc;400235]Hassleback is alot like Romo as far as avoiding rushes and making quick decisions, but I don't think that their receivers are as good as dallas'. Their good, don't get me wrong, but not T.O. good. Their rushing attack isn't what it was back in 05 when we played them, but then again alexander was knocked F-out in that game so that is a moot point anyway. [B]The one key to this match-up to this game compared to 05 is that the Skins are not as one dimensional on offense like we were[/B]. Our offense is starting to spread the ball around to different playmakers. But, to sum this up we are playing like a total team with heart and something to prove.[/quote]Our offensive diversity with Collins running the full Saunders arsenal will be key. I definitely don't see the Seattle D holding us under 20 points in this game. If our D can keep the Hawks passing game in check, the game is ours for the taking.

Campbell17 01-01-2008 10:31 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
when we had ST, i would have worried less about the pass, now i dont know.

12thMan 01-02-2008 02:36 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Thing is Seattle hasn't faced a physical team quite like the Skins this year. Understand, we play in the NFC EAST and that can't be taken for granted. No offense but they've played the Rams twice and 49ers twice this year.

Samuels and company have faced the best defensive end duo twice this year (Giants) and pretty much shut them down and did the same with Trent Cole from the Eagles. Also I'll take DaMarcus Ware over Patrick Kearney any day of the week, and Samuels had a pretty solid game vs. Ware in the final game.

I think top to bottom we've faced more than Seattle just from a competitive standpoint this year. I really think this game is going to boild down to a test of the wills as much as physical talent.

Gtothearry 01-02-2008 04:25 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=diehardskin2982;400159]stop hasselbeck is the key. keep him on his back at all cost. It was he who killed us in 05 so we have to stop him first.[/QUOTE]

Carlos killed us in 05. Im pretty sure he was the one who dropped a pick that hit him straight in the hands. He coulda easily returned that for a TD and changed that game completely.

freddyg12 01-02-2008 10:14 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=4mrusmc;400235]Hassleback is alot like Romo as far as avoiding rushes and making quick decisions, but I don't think that their receivers are as good as dallas'. Their good, don't get me wrong, but not T.O. good. Their rushing attack isn't what it was back in 05 when we played them, but then again alexander was knocked F-out in that game so that is a moot point anyway. The one key to this match-up to this game compared to 05 is that the Skins are not as one dimensional on offense like we were. Our offense is starting to spread the ball around to different playmakers. But, to sum this up we are playing like a total team with heart and something to prove.[/quote]

The Seahawks don't have a wr at TO's level, but they have 4 very solid guys - Burleson, Engram, Branch & Hackett. Those guys across the board may be a better group than we've faced all year except for the Pats & Lions.

A couple people have mentioned the Lions game & the cover 2. I would expect a lot of cover 2 w/GW trying to mix things up w/the LB's. I don't think we'll see much blitzing unless we can't get any pressure w/the front 4, in which case GW will go cover 3 & bring some heat. Regardless of Seattle's inconsistency, if we can't get to Hassellback he will find those wr's. I see this as a very tough matchup.

MTK 01-02-2008 10:15 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Seattle is already one dimensional by choice. If we can contain their passing game we'll have an excellent shote at winning this game. Our defense is playing lights out right now so I like our chances.

birdz4gibbs 01-02-2008 02:31 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=Gtothearry;400321]Carlos killed us in 05. Im pretty sure he was the one who dropped a pick that hit him straight in the hands. He coulda easily returned that for a TD and changed that game completely.[/QUOTE]


when looking back at that game thats the one play that keeps coming to my mind too. that deal would have then and we need to get after them from the first quarter right on thru the 4th quarter.. bring the intensity and emotion that you have displayed the past 4 weeks and let the rest take care of itself then we might be looking at round two of the playoffs.

70Chip 01-02-2008 03:08 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
If we can do what we did in 2005 which was hold them to 20 points, I think this time around our offense will be good enough to win the game. Our offense was terrible at that point of 2005. Brunell was not healthy. We had Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris as our #2 and #3 receivers. Portis was banged up. Randy Thomas had broken his ankle and his replacements were not cutting it. (Remember the fiasco of putting Corey Raymer in at one point?) I think the Seahawks will be one dimensional because this time around they will be behind on the scoreboard. Collins is bona fide. Portis is at the peak of his powers. Moss is back at full speed. Cooley is as Cooley does. Randle El and Caldwell/McCardell are good for 2 to 3 big catches each. Yoder can catch the ball in a pinch and surprise their defense. Ditto Thrash. Betts is a handful. And I expect to see gadget plays both on offense and special teams. If the defense can play physical and avoid the big plays, that should be enough. They don't have to shut out the opponent or score points themselves this time around.

724Skinsfan 01-02-2008 03:21 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
Andre Carter on Walter Jones seems like a great battle. AC slipping by him without going too far up the field will be huge for us. Or do you let bigger Daniels play that side and let AC run wild on the other side?

BleedBurgundy 01-02-2008 03:24 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;400002]Just curious as to what everybody is thinking about how the Skins should play the Seahawks on defense.
[/QUOTE]

I think tough should work.

70Chip 01-02-2008 03:37 PM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=724Skinsfan;400599]Andre Carter on Walter Jones seems like a great battle. AC slipping by him without going too far up the field will be huge for us. Or do you let bigger Daniels play that side and let AC run wild on the other side?[/quote]


If you move Carter over to the LDE, he would face someone named Sean Locklear and would be rushing from Hasselback's blind side. Daniels on the right would be better against Jones in the running game (I think) and since Jones is unlikely to give up sacks anyways, you don't lose anything in the pass rush. On 3rd down you continue to move Daniels inside and bring in Chris Wilson to rush against Jones. I think it's a good idea.

broncoted 01-03-2008 11:42 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;400002]Just curious as to what everybody is thinking about how the Skins should play the Seahawks on defense.

Do we play them conservatively rushing primarily four guys and play coverage? This has worked earlier against teams that are more pass oriented like the Seahawks have been lately.

Do we play aggressive and blitz early and often from disguised formations? We haven't done much of this so far this year, but GW can bring it like the best of them.

Do we key on stopping on the run? Alexander has played better as of late.

What does everyone think GW will dial up this weekend?[/QUOTE]

You guys don't have to do nothing. Just show up. This will be an easy game for you guys. Hail to the Redskins!

broncoted 01-03-2008 11:44 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72;400378]Seattle is already one dimensional by choice. If we can contain their passing game we'll have an excellent shote at winning this game. Our defense is playing lights out right now so I like our chances.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely, Shaun Alexander is washed up. You guys are the 2nd coming of the 1991 Redskins. Matt Hasselback? He's a CFL QB. I've never heard of the guys the Hawks have on defense. Trufant, Tatupu, Kerney....OVERATED! The Hogs should plow through them. You guys better get your tickets ready for Lambeau...they sell out quick!

MTK 01-03-2008 11:45 AM

Re: How do we play Seattle on D?
 
[quote=broncoted;401016]Absolutely, Shaun Alexander is washed up. You guys are the 2nd coming of the 1991 Redskins. Matt Hasselback? He's a CFL QB. I've never heard of the guys the Hawks have on defense. Trufant, Tatupu, Kerney....OVERATED! The Hogs should plow through them. You guys better get your tickets ready for Lambeau...they sell out quick![/quote]

Why do you feel the need to be a wise ass to everyone?


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