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12thMan 12-31-2007 02:48 PM

Brian Billick: This Year's First Coaching Casualty
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3175037]ESPN - Owner says Billick will not return as Ravens coach - NFL[/url]

Eriwar 12-31-2007 02:53 PM

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Im shocked!!! I thought he might get 1 more year considering the glut of qbs on the market next year.

MTK 12-31-2007 02:54 PM

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Way overdue.

70Chip 12-31-2007 02:55 PM

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I agree with Matty. This guy has underperformed for years. They have had the league's most consistently inept offense and he was brought in as an offensive guru.

saden1 12-31-2007 02:56 PM

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It's no surprise...he definitely needed to go.

1 down few more to go.

redskinsfanatic 12-31-2007 03:04 PM

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he just put so much trust into his qbs,this was inevitable!!!anybody think that cowher maybe intrested in this job???

malo12124 12-31-2007 03:19 PM

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No surprise knew that one was coming, after last year I thought he would be gone. He just couldn't find the right QB.

dmek25 12-31-2007 03:19 PM

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for someone that was anointed an offensive genius when he was in Minnesota, his Baltimore teams were/ are big time under achieving. long over due

JoeRedskin 12-31-2007 03:30 PM

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Part of his problem was that, in the year they won the SB, Billick played the "Everyone hates us and it's us against the world. So F*** the world." Eventually, that just became a way to blame the team's shortcomings on someone else - the refs, the media, other teams, etc. It was never Billick's or his player's fault. Eventually, you could just see the players saying "hey, it's not my fault we suck, I'm a superstar".

Billick created a culture where personal accountability and team accountability ceased to exist. When things took a bad turn, instead of pulling together, the team fell apart and, as a team, the players just didn't have any heart. IMHO - that was all Billick.

BrunellMVP? 12-31-2007 03:56 PM

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needed to go...

years in the making...

hurrykaine 12-31-2007 04:18 PM

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80-64 with the Ravens through 9 seasons with a SB. Not too shabby at all, but geez what an insufferable prick the guy is! An immediate future in broadcasting perhaps? He can continue to annoy the pi$$ out of everybody!

DynamiteRave 12-31-2007 04:24 PM

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He needed to go. I heard on ESPN that they went around and asked the coaches and players whether Billick had lost them or if they still had faith that he could get it done another year and an overwhelming amount of them said that Billick had lost them.

Ravens need a new coach, restructure things a little and try again next year.

BrudLee 12-31-2007 04:30 PM

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We should absolutely hire him immediately.

To follow Coach Gibbs around and see how a class act handles himself.

Paintrain 12-31-2007 05:07 PM

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He was doomed by losing that Dolphins game. Saw this one coming a mile away.

Giantone 12-31-2007 06:41 PM

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[quote=BrudLee;399826]We should absolutely hire him immediately.

To follow Coach Gibbs around and see how a class act handles himself.[/quote]


On Comcast they were talking about asking permission to talk to both of Washingtons coordinators.

dblanch66 12-31-2007 06:47 PM

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Billick is a pretentious, overblown, ego-bloated prick. Remember this line: "I know Quarterbacks. Trust me". He said this after signing....[I]cough, cough...[I]Scott Mitchell. What a dick.

pdid5000 12-31-2007 06:49 PM

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i think its a bad move, they wont get anyone any better, other then cowher maybe, but thats doubtful.

pdid5000 12-31-2007 06:51 PM

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[quote=BrudLee;399826]We should absolutely hire him immediately.

To follow Coach Gibbs around and see how a class act handles himself.[/quote]lol - wouldnt that be a typical skins offseason move.

SFREDSKIN 12-31-2007 06:56 PM

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[QUOTE=dblanch66;399942]Billick is a pretentious, overblown, ego-bloated prick. Remember this line: "I know Quarterbacks. Trust me". He said this after signing....[I]cough, cough...[I]Scott Mitchell. What a dick.[/QUOTE]

You are exactly right, he's a DOUCHE!! Anyone blowing kisses to an opponents player, doesn't command any respect; especially when you are considered the COACH. Even Pastabelli wrote about this.

Pasquarelli: Infamous Words

Brian Billick claimed that he knew quarterbacks, but he spent nine seasons as Baltimore's head coach proving exactly the opposite, writes Len Pasquarelli.

That Guy 12-31-2007 06:59 PM

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i thought the expensive contract he had would buy him another year.


guess i was way off on that one :/

skinsfan69 12-31-2007 07:00 PM

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Brian B. never had a top 10 offense the whole time he was in Balt. This was a long time coming. George Michael just said that some of the players actually went to the owner and said he has totally lost the team. His own players turned on him! He had it coming. That dickhead always thinks he's smarter than everyone.

skinsfan69 12-31-2007 07:01 PM

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[quote=That Guy;399949]i thought the expensive contract he had would buy him another year.


guess i was way off on that one :/[/quote]

Must be nice to get fired and have 15 mil coming to you. That's not so bad.

724Skinsfan 12-31-2007 07:55 PM

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Not surprising. Ray "The Slasher" Lewis could be a better player/coach for the Ravens.

redskinz79 12-31-2007 10:03 PM

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He's a good coach. He wont stay unemployed too long.

LongTimeSkinsFan 12-31-2007 10:29 PM

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Couldn't have come soon enough imho. The Ravens won a super bowl despite having Billick as head coach and quite honestly I thought that Marvin Lewis' defense and the play of the special teams got them the trophy. And his reputation as an offensive guru? I think any of us here would have earned that title with Culpepper at QB tossing to Moss, Carter, and Reed all day long.

rypper11 01-01-2008 12:02 PM

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;399774]he just put so much trust into his qbs,this was inevitable!!!anybody think that cowher maybe intrested in this job???[/quote]
Absolutely no chance on Cowher coming back in 08. It will be at least 09, possibly 2010. My guess is, unfortunately, Saunders gets another crack at HC there and Collins follows as the starter grooming their first round pick (Brohm?). I think they go with an offensive minded coach to rebuild since the defense is getting old. Singletary and Rex Ryan would be great, but I really think they want an offense to build from ground.

Smooter 01-01-2008 12:11 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;399936]On Comcast they were talking about asking permission to talk to both of Washingtons coordinators.[/QUOTE]
They better keep their dick skinnin' hands off our coaches!

4mrusmc 01-01-2008 08:14 PM

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I personally could care-less what happens in B-more, but I think he did a very good job there. His team went 5-11 after going what 13-3? The team had a ton of injuries to some key guys this year. Hell, we went 5-11 last year and look where we are now. I'm just greatful to have the coaches we have now, especially all things considered. Man Hollywood should seriously do a film about this years' team.

SFREDSKIN 01-01-2008 08:19 PM

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[QUOTE=4mrusmc;400221]I personally could care-less what happens in B-more, but I think he did a very good job there. His team went 5-11 after going what 13-3? The team had a ton of injuries to some key guys this year. Hell, we went 5-11 last year and look where we are now. I'm just greatful to have the coaches we have now, especially all things considered. Man Hollywood should seriously do a film about this years' team.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but he have to win the SB for the story to be perfect.

jsarno 01-01-2008 11:15 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;399950]Brian B. never had a top 10 offense the whole time he was in Balt. This was a long time coming. George Michael just said that some of the players actually went to the owner and said he has totally lost the team. His own players turned on him! He had it coming. That dickhead always thinks he's smarter than everyone.[/QUOTE]

This is no surprise to me. I watched that Miami / Baltimore game, and he lost it at the end of the game. He made poor decisions and should have gone for it with 12 seconds left, but didn't. The players were seen yelling at him and he yelled back that he's the coach...I knew right there he was out.

DynamiteRave 01-01-2008 11:19 PM

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[quote=jsarno;400276]This is no surprise to me. I watched that Miami / Baltimore game, and he lost it at the end of the game. He made poor decisions and should have gone for it with 12 seconds left, but didn't. The players were seen yelling at him and he yelled back that he's the coach...I knew right there he was out.[/quote]

You know your players don't respect you as a coach when they're the ones yelling at you. :benched:

jsarno 01-01-2008 11:25 PM

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;400278]You know your players don't respect you as a coach when they're the ones yelling at you. :benched:[/QUOTE]

It wasn't even an argument, it was a flat out yell fest.
If someone did that to Gibbs, Gibbs would have his ass riding the pine. Billick just took it.

SouperMeister 01-02-2008 01:05 AM

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Billick's offensive genius in Minnesota consisted of telling his QB to air it out to Moss, and if he was covered, throw it to Cris Carter underneath. I heard somewhere that his average offensive ranking in Baltimore was 23rd - not exactly what I would call genius.

jsarno 01-02-2008 10:49 PM

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;400302]Billick's offensive genius in Minnesota consisted of telling his QB to air it out to Moss, and if he was covered, throw it to Cris Carter underneath. I heard somewhere that his average offensive ranking in Baltimore was 23rd - not exactly what I would call genius.[/QUOTE]

Well, it is not uncommon for offensive guru's to fail as a head coach...he need to go back to being an OC.

skinsfan69 01-03-2008 09:29 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;400302]Billick's offensive genius in Minnesota consisted of telling his QB to air it out to Moss, and if he was covered, throw it to Cris Carter underneath. I heard somewhere that his average offensive ranking in Baltimore was 23rd - not exactly what I would call genius.[/quote]

That's what I find so funny. He had Moss and Chris Carter, two HOF wr's. Plus the o-line was really strong at that time. I heard last night that Josh McDaniels is going to get an interview for the Balt. job. The guy is like 32 years old. WTF are they thinking???

Looks like we have the 2nd coach that's getting fired. I just heard on the radio that Cam Cameron got the ax. Shocker.

ArtMonkDrillz 01-03-2008 09:51 AM

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Here's the link; Cam Cameron is now standing behind Billick in the unemployment line.
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3178646]ESPN - Cameron out as Dolphins coach - NFL[/url]

I guess these two can get together, pound a few hundred beers, and reminisce about their epic week 15 battle. I'm sure that will be a good time.

MTK 01-03-2008 09:55 AM

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No big surprise with Cameron. With Parcells coming in you knew he would be looking to clean house and put his own stamp on things.

freddyg12 01-03-2008 10:04 AM

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Billick deserves some credit, he did win a super bowl. And last year's team was 13-3, though they flailed in the playoffs. Sometimes organizations need change & they know they can't go forward w/the guy they have. Seems Baltimore had gotten a bit out of control this year w/players saying whatever they felt about the staff. I won't be surprised if the new coach wants to clean house a little, including Ray Lewis. Ozzie Newsome & the owner might want to keep him though.

BDBohnzie 01-03-2008 10:08 AM

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Billick deserves very little credit, as in the years the Ravens had success, it was their defense that carried them. For an offensive "genius", that's pretty bad. I wonder if Rex Ryan will get an interview as well...then he can bring in his recently fired brother to be D-Coord.

As far as Cameron goes, it was a matter of time. I wonder what Big Tuna has up his sleeve...

ArtMonkDrillz 01-03-2008 10:13 AM

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;400930]Billick deserves some credit, he did win a super bowl. And last year's team was 13-3, though they flailed in the playoffs. Sometimes organizations need change & they know they can't go forward w/the guy they have. Seems Baltimore had gotten a bit out of control this year w/players saying whatever they felt about the staff. I won't be surprised if the new coach wants to clean house a little, including Ray Lewis. Ozzie Newsome & the owner might want to keep him though.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but he won the super bowl in his second year with the team because he had an all time great defense, an incredible special teams unit, and a ton of luck. They went 5 games without an offensive touchdown and still managed a 12-4 (I think) record even though they were in the same division as the Titans who were a powerhouse at the time. I don't think it was Brian "the offensive guru" Billick's plan to win any games that way they just sort of lucked out and got just enough offense to sneak by some teams; but luck like thay doesn't last long.
I live within walking distance to the raven's purple mess of a stadium and most of my friends root for them but not a single one of them gives Billick more than a tiny bit of credit for anything they accomplished over the past eight or nine years. Like SouperMeister said, his great scheme in Minn. consisted of two great WR, a solid O-line, and a QB who could throw it really far down field.


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