F... Michigan
 

The University of Michigan can suck it. Try devoloping some coaches of your own, last year with WVU's bball coach belein and this year with rich rodriguez. And for that matter f rich rod, i hope that snake in the grass loses every game from here on out. [SIZE=2]

This is a man who lied to his own people. He grew up just miles from WVU and his family is still there. He was born and bred - he was family. He held the WVU administration by the balls last year during the Alabama fiasco and WVU gave him everything he asked for. The fans of WVU, who are not rich by any means, paid higher ticket prices this year to support the team, build new facilities, give him each of his demands, and share in the pride of it all.

He betrayed his state and family of 2 million hardworking people who give a lot to this program. Then to cap it off he has done more damage than he can imagine in the past 12 hours and is not welcome back in the state again.

This isn't any coach - this is one that grew up with us, played college ball for us, and was given his first head coaching job by us. He was given everything he asked for and then shit on us.[/SIZE]

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What a strange, vengeful, hate-laden thread.

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I view Rich rod to be on the level of petrino when it comes to loyalty or integrity. He sucks.

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I'm sure if I were a WVU fan, I'd feel the same way. I was pretty shocked to see that happen.

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Im not a wvu fan, but that was pretty shitty.

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Maybe I'm missing something. But it's Michigan folks. One of the best programs in the college ranks. Huge recruiting power, tradition, MONEY, and exposure. RR did a ton for WVU, put them back on the college football map. Thats how college works.

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[quote=Daseal;393867]Maybe I'm missing something. But it's Michigan folks. One of the best programs in the college ranks. Huge recruiting power, tradition, MONEY, and exposure. RR did a ton for WVU, put them back on the college football map. Thats how college works.[/quote]

The fact that he left his alma mater. The fact that he straight up lied to everyone in his program and everyone in the state of west virginia. The way he went about with the Michigan hire was so deceptive it makes you sick. Michigan wasnt willing to pay more money than WVU, not to a tone that was outrageously more anyway, that was not the issue, and on top of that, he wont even be making more the first two years he coaches paying back the 4 million of his buyout clause. WVU was the second most watched team in the country this fall next to Notre Dame according to reports. This is why the move doesnt make sense and this is why most all WVU fans feel betrayed. The fact that not only a month ago this man can stand in front of a podium in front of the entire WVU audience and talk about loyalty and turn around and pull this crap? I just dont think he went about doing things the right way.

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It might be shitty but can you blame him?

It's Michigan we're talking about. One of the top jobs in college sports.

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Someone is bitter...

Dude anyone would do the same thing. Anyone who doesn't would be retarded. You have to be rational and think about your well being. Michigan is way better for him in all aspects. I am sure he struggled with the choice but did the right thing IMO.

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If you think WVU is on par with Michigan you are seriously deluding yourself. I think your tone is real off-putting. Rather than bemoaning the decline of loyalty in sports, you attack the man personally, calling him all sorts of names.

Dispassionate observers with no rooted interest in WVU can't help but stick up for him for making a decision to benefit his family.

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[quote=SmootSmack;393708]What a strange, vengeful, hate-laden thread.[/quote]

Hahahaha. I feel his anger though. Football is such big biz nowadays, and the way a lot of coaches handle themselves is pretty lame. Rich Rodriguez meeting with Mich without letting WVU know, the Petrino lies, the Saban lies, the list goes on. It sucks.

Personally I think Rich Rodriguez did a dumb thing. He had it made in Mogantown. How good could this team be with Slaton and White next year? And even if Slaton leaves they still have Noel Devine. I think Rich had a better chance at a title at WVU than he'll have in the Big 10. All those Mountaineer fans out there can thank Dave friggin Wannstedt and his shit Pitt team for beating them in WVU with a national title berth on the line. Now Rodriguez is bailing on all that talent and he's not even gonna coach in their BCS game? Lame.

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[QUOTE=Hail2theskins;394029]The fact that he left his alma mater. The fact that he straight up lied to everyone in his program and everyone in the state of west virginia. The way he went about with the Michigan hire was so deceptive it makes you sick. Michigan wasnt willing to pay more money than WVU, not to a tone that was outrageously more anyway, that was not the issue, and on top of that, he wont even be making more the first two years he coaches paying back the 4 million of his buyout clause. WVU was the second most watched team in the country this fall next to Notre Dame according to reports. This is why the move doesnt make sense and this is why most all WVU fans feel betrayed. The fact that not only a month ago this man can stand in front of a podium in front of the entire WVU audience and talk about loyalty and turn around and pull this crap? I just dont think he went about doing things the right way.[/QUOTE]

But didn't he have to work his way back into his alma mater by proving his worth at the NAIA level and other schools such as Clemson (I think it was Clemson)? He earned his way back to WVU and earned his way out and up. As I understand it, he spoke to the AD, his coaching staff, and the players personally before making it public that he was leaving. And not just a 10 second convo, but long, solid discussions with each. So he didn't seem to burn any bridges there.

I can see how WVU fans might be upset, but for Rodriguez' sake it's absolutely the right move. It's a shame it couldn't happen after the season was completely over. But for distraught Mountaineer fans...remember Steve Fisher.

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I heard on the stephen a smith show today that there was a huge falling out between him and the AD, and that's what led to him considering leaving, and that it developed within the last couple of months and had something to do with one of their losses...

I may be wrong, though... I was trying to work while it was on.

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So, will you post another angry thread when WVU signs a coach upgrading his job from another school when they get a new one. They should "try devoloping some coaches of THEIR own" too.

You should be proud of someone who spent their whole life in the mountains of WV and finally worked their way out. :D

It's always been part of the coaching job, you do your best where you are and when you get an offer from a bigger, better school, you move on.

Remember, to them, it's a salary.

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It wasnt about money, I dont consider it moving up in the world if you're already making 2mil in morgantown which goes a hell of a lot farther than 2.2 mil in Anne Arbor. Of course I attack the man personally, he acted like a child through the whole situation. I assure you he burned nearly every bridge possible with WVU. There was no knowledge to the WVU AD that he was even meeting with Michigan, which by rule of the Contract and the NCAA is not allowed. There was also no meeting between himself and the AD informing the AD he was leaving. The meeting with the players was brief and he did not tell them the specifics as to why he was leaving. He told a potential recruit before he informed his own players that he was leaving. And all this crap about leaving the instutition in better shape? how does leaving a school before one of the biggest game in its history and now attempting to bad mouth the WVU administration through Chuck Finder of the Pittsburgh Post gazette ( This would be as if gibbs left and went dr. z to help bash the skins ) again how is that leaving it in better shape?

The falling out between RR and the AD began occurring after the Alabama debacle last year. A debacle when after it was all said and done ended up for good things for the WVU program. But was it the right way to go about things? Rather than ask the administration for upgrades and raises for his staff, he threatens to leave and nearly does until all the big time donors came running in with their checkbooks. Agreed that, that is one way to get things done, but is it the best way? No f'ing way, and if you believe that you might want to go back in school and enroll in business ethics. You dont think your boss would be pissed if some ass snake in the grass tried to get around you like that and basically threw you down the well without ever trying to resolve the problem with him in the first place?

The guys extension to his contract extension was signed 3 months ago with RR quoted "I want to retire here." Since the Alabama debacle, per RR's requests: we have spent 1mil on the newest and best fieldturf available, the old turf was less than 6 years old. A WVU football History museum is under construction and nearly completed. Additional Seating has been added to the endzones. Student Athelte Academic Center was reonovated and remodled. The Locker room and other Athlete/Coaching Facilities are planned to go underway once the season is over. The indoor practice field also received this 1million dollar turf. and the list goes on. All of this and he leaves because of some pretty petty things that couldnt be resolved between him and the AD.

The man did not leave because of money, exposure etc etc, he left because of some silly squabble between him and the AD over petty things where both men acted like children. the "im taking my ball and going home" analogy seems fit best here. The problem I have with RR is the way in which he handled this situation and the lies he portrayed to the university, his players, recruits and fans.

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and he chokes in big games

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[quote=Hail2theskins;394566] per RR's requests: we have spent 1mil on the newest and best fieldturf available, the old turf was less than 6 years old. A WVU football History museum is under construction and nearly completed. Additional Seating has been added to the endzones. Student Athelte Academic Center was reonovated and remodled. The Locker room and other Athlete/Coaching Facilities are planned to go underway once the season is over. The indoor practice field also received this 1million dollar turf. and the list goes on. [/quote]


no question he should've coached his bowl game, and that speaks to his character, and everyone sees that...

but in the end you should probably thank him. It sounds like all of the strides the program has taken, and any that it will continue to in the future can be attributed to his efforts...

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[quote=canthetuna;394582]no question he should've coached his bowl game, and that speaks to his character, and everyone sees that...

but in the end you should probably thank him. It sounds like all of the strides the program has taken, and any that it will continue to in the future can be attributed to his efforts...[/quote]

By no means would I want him coaching in the bowl game, I think if i was a player i would feel that way too. and yes he did make great strides while at WVU, but ultimately it was the way in which he got these things that made him want to leave because of a dispute between himself and the administration. Had he acted rationally and ethically in the first place i dont think this would have happened at all. Dont get me wrong I think the administration is partly at fault here too but not nearly to the same degree that RR is.

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It's about to get real ugly

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159677]ESPN - Source: Attorneys to contest ex-coach having to pay $4M to WVU - College Football[/url]

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Why is it wrong for him to take a better job? I don't get it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;394702]It's about to get real ugly

[URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3159677"]ESPN - Source: Attorneys to contest ex-coach having to pay $4M to WVU - College Football[/URL][/quote]

See the petty things I was talking about? If those are really the things that made life so miserable for him in morgantown that he just had to get out then hes a whiny freaking crybaby whose going to be miserable wherever he is. But i dont think thats really it, I think like before hes a snake in the grass who is now just looking for a way out of his contractual agreement.

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Dude you are just pissed and running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Calm down.

Michigan is a much better place to coach period. he will get more national attention there in terms of prestige and respect especially if he succeeds there. That is what he is thinking about.

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[quote=hooskins;394783]Dude you are just pissed and running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Calm down.

Michigan is a much better place to coach period. he will get more national attention there in terms of prestige and respect especially if he succeeds there. That is what he is thinking about.[/quote]

you clearly dont understand the situation. period. do a little research until you tell me not to be pissed off. until then i'll continue on my anti RR tirade.

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Greg Shiano in Rutgers turned down offers to speak to Michigan to stay at Rutgers! 5 years ago if anybody said that youd call them a witch (even now its still crazy).. Michigan isint what it was I hate how they throw their name around and expect people to drop thier careers and go there. Im glad the Les Miles to Michigan rumors are over..wtf LSU has been a power house in the best conference in football and even after Miles stated many times bold as day he wasnt going to Michigan ESPN still said that he would eveuntually go there.

Michigan should have gone after Appalachian State's head coach!

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[QUOTE=Hail2theskins;394906]you clearly dont understand the situation. period. do a little research until you tell me not to be pissed off. until then i'll continue on my anti RR tirade.[/QUOTE]

Why don't you explain it then.

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[QUOTE=scafuri27;394926]Michigan should have gone after Appalachian State's head coach![/QUOTE]

So then the App State Fans would be going nuts for no reason then right?

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;394929]So then the App State Fans would be going nuts for no reason then right?[/QUOTE]

Yes, both of them.

Say what you want about loyalty, but Michigan is probably the best job in college football. The only ones that are on the same level are USC and ND.

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[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy;394932]Yes, both of them.[/QUOTE]

BaZing!

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[URL="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/12/19/bc.fbc.rodriguez.radio.ap/index.html"]Hail2theskins, I didn't know you ran a radio station.[/URL]

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[U]although that is pretty funny drillz, thats just not something you do in West Virginia. Not a place where 90% of the citizens live for WVU football. That would be like an ass playing country roads in blacksburg.[/U]



[quote=FRPLG;394929]So then the App State Fans would be going nuts for no reason then right?[/quote]

really? are you just looking to annoy me? the man lied, period and did it in such a way that it pissed off about 2 million+ people and then doesnt have the gumption to give any sort of explanation to the people (boosters) who paid his salary who made everything happen that he wanted to, to get under way? Right, lord knows i dont have any reason to be pissed off.

[quote=FRPLG;394928]Why don't you explain it then.[/quote]

Did you bother at all reading any of my previous posts?

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How would you feel if it was the other way around? Suppose you were a Michigan fan, would it bother you what RR did?

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[QUOTE=Hail2theskins;395193][U]although that is pretty funny drillz, thats just not something you do in West Virginia. Not a place where 90% of the citizens live for WVU football. That would be like an ass playing country roads in blacksburg.[/U]





really? are you just looking to annoy me? the man lied, period and did it in such a way that it pissed off about 2 million+ people and then doesnt have the gumption to give any sort of explanation to the people (boosters) who paid his salary who made everything happen that he wanted to, to get under way? Right, lord knows i dont have any reason to be pissed off.



Did you bother at all reading any of my previous posts?[/QUOTE]

I read them all and nowhere did you give a real reason. All of your "reasons" are assumptions at best or just emotion reactions otherwise. You are mad because he took a job he felt was better? That makes no sense. How does he owe WVU any more than he gave. He doesn't get paid per lifetime he gets paid per season and he coached this season and did pretty well.

I'll also mention that he apparently doesn't feel the same way you do when it comes to having "gotten everything he asked for". Since he thinks he has a legal leg to stand on in not paying the buyout due to WVU's failures to live up to prmoises made.

I think you're just bitter and have no logical reason to be upset. You and a lot of other people.

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Michigan will be better off with RR.

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hail2thaskins do you go to wvu?