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SmootSmack 10-07-2007 05:29 PM

Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
Seriously though, all bad puns aside...

We already have 12 sacks through 4 games (compared to 19 all of last year). That's been as big a reason as any for our 3-1 start.

Props to our front office for "discovering" guys like Anthony Montgomery, and Chris Wilson. Props to Greg Blache and Gregg Williams for being creative with guys like Demetric Evans. Props to me for hyping up Andre Carter a year before we signed him. No props to me for thinking signing Fletcher was a mistake.

saden1 10-07-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
You sure the title is appropriate? lol.

skinsfanthru&thru 10-07-2007 05:44 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
and the amazing thing is that all of the sacks came from the line today and I don't remember seeing any blitzing at all. looks like those who thought a vastly improved secondary wouldn't help the sack total have been wrong so far. plus the defense is already only 2 ints short of their total from last year. awesome job today all around and Carter is turning into a beast.

SouperMeister 10-07-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[quote=SmootSmack;360485]Seriously though, all bad puns aside...

We already have 12 sacks through 4 games (compared to 19 all of last year). That's been as big a reason as any for our 3-1 start.

Props to our front office for "discovering" guys like Anthony Montgomery, and Chris Wilson. Props to Greg Blache and Gregg Williams for being creative with guys like Demetric Evans. Props to me for hyping up Andre Carter a year before we signed him. No props to me for thinking signing Fletcher was a mistake.[/quote]A. Montgomery fell to the 5th round due to perceived lack of work ethic. He always had a 1st round body (6'6" 315 LBS). Perhaps being around veterans like Daniels, Griffin, and Carter is rubbing off on how to prepare like a pro, and play hard every down. Carter has rushed the passer like a man possessed since the final four games of last season. If the Skins add a stud DE on the other side thru the next draft, the defense will be downright scary next season.

jsarno 10-07-2007 06:03 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;360485]Seriously though, all bad puns aside...

We already have 12 sacks through 4 games (compared to 19 all of last year). That's been as big a reason as any for our 3-1 start.

Props to our front office for "discovering" guys like Anthony Montgomery, and Chris Wilson. Props to Greg Blache and Gregg Williams for being creative with guys like Demetric Evans. Props to me for hyping up Andre Carter a year before we signed him. No props to me for thinking signing Fletcher was a mistake.[/QUOTE]

A little misleading though considering 5 were today and were against the worst o line in the league. Of course I will take it, but this doesn't mean we are all of a sudden a good pass rushing team. Most of our sacks this season were the result of great secondary work. Very few have been off a pure pass rush.

GusFrerotte 10-07-2007 06:07 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;360499]and the amazing thing is that all of the sacks came from the line today and I don't remember seeing any blitzing at all. looks like those who thought a vastly improved secondary wouldn't help the sack total have been wrong so far. plus the defense is already only 2 ints short of their total from last year. awesome job today all around and Carter is turning into a beast.[/quote]


Nice job of improving the rush for a change, but much improvement is still needed as we head into GB, NY, and play Dallas. The Lions O line is one of the worst in the league in pass protection. Our guys will have to harass Favre like they did Kitna today in order for us to win next weekend. I think they can do it, but it will be a lot harder against a better O line.

SmootSmack 10-07-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;360508]A little misleading though considering 5 were today and were against the worst o line in the league. Of course I will take it, but this doesn't mean we are all of a sudden a good pass rushing team. Most of our sacks this season were the result of great secondary work. Very few have been off a pure pass rush.[/QUOTE]

I realize that 5 were today, but we did what we had to do against a poor offensive line. Something we probably wouldn't have done last year

jsarno 10-07-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;360514]I realize that 5 were today, but we did what we had to do against a poor offensive line. Something we probably wouldn't have done last year[/QUOTE]

That's very true.
No doubt that our defense is 50 times better than it was last year. Just goes to show you what a good secondary can do for your entire defense, and how a pass rush can disrupt an offense.

Bozzy 10-07-2007 06:13 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
you can't really improve penetration... you either penetrate or you don't... i'm still talking about football.

skinsnut 10-07-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru;360499]and the amazing thing is that all of the sacks came from the line today and I don't remember seeing any blitzing at all. looks like those who thought a vastly improved secondary wouldn't help the sack total have been wrong so far. plus the defense is already only 2 ints short of their total from last year. awesome job today all around and Carter is turning into a beast.[/QUOTE]


Carter is becoming very good at pass rushing
What worries me is when they abuse him in the running game.
Good thing the Lions dont run!

Hopefully GW has some sort of solution behind him when they run to his side.
So far, it looks like they do

MTK 10-07-2007 07:19 PM

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Andre Carter was a FORCE out there today, it was nice to see the front 4 getting pressure all by themselves.

SmootSmack 10-07-2007 07:21 PM

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Carter almost outscored the Lions all by his lonesome

hooskins 10-07-2007 10:43 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
Penetration hah...I get amused easily.

kdogg3270 10-07-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=skinsnut;360530]Carter is becoming very good at pass rushing
What worries me is when they abuse him in the running game.
Good thing the Lions dont run!

Hopefully GW has some sort of solution behind him when they run to his side.
So far, it looks like they do[/QUOTE]

well andre carter is the approximate size of dexter manley (when dexter played with us)..same attributes fairly quick - he's not as quick as dexter was..bottom line, hes going up against much bigger guys so of course he's gonna have some issues vs the run coming from a 3 point stance.
he played well overall.

T.O.Killa 10-07-2007 10:50 PM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
Chris Wilson was putting alot of pressure on the Quarterback himself. He almost got there several times.

JWsleep 10-08-2007 01:11 AM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[QUOTE=Bozzy;360522]you can't really improve penetration... you either penetrate or you don't... i'm still talking about football.[/QUOTE]

Well, you can penetrate deeper. Or you can penetrate more often. Or you can have more people penetrating. And, yes, I'm still talking about football. ;)

SanFranSkinsFan 10-08-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[quote=JWsleep;360863]Well, you can penetrate deeper. Or you can penetrate more often. Or you can have more people penetrating. And, yes, I'm still talking about football. ;)[/quote]

Just love that we got a safety, that's even more fun than a 2 dollar bill, and A Carter is playing real nice right now. Also I still am wondering if we can blitz more. I just love that kind of p-tration.

Cowell 10-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
I'm sure someone has already touched on this point, but I noticed that Andre isn't trying to do that speed rush on every play and he is mixing his moves up a little bit. Seems to be working.

SanFranSkinsFan 10-08-2007 01:29 AM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
[quote=Cowell;360869]I'm sure someone has already touched on this point, but I noticed that Andre isn't trying to do that speed rush on every play and he is mixing his moves up a little bit. Seems to be working.[/quote]

He has all the talent to be a double digit sack master. The best thing about our game today is that is was complete. Also just watched Bears use 4-3 and cover 2 to completely shut down Packers in 2nd half. I am sure Williams will be dialing that up next week, along with some Andre Carter-inspired penetration. We need to whup some cheesehead ass next week.

dmek25 10-08-2007 07:52 AM

Re: Redskins Improve Penetration, Enjoy More Sacks
 
i have to give props to Greg Williams. after last season, i wasn't sure if the league had figured out his schemes. our defense was totally prepared for just about everything they saw on Sunday. great coaching job on both sides of the ball


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