Cowboys OVERRATED @ 4-0?
 

Um. Yes I said it. If you had listened to my radio show today you'd have heard it there first... The Cowboys are overrated even being 4-0! Including their Monday night opponent (5 teams) Dallas' opponents are a combined 4-16. This week will also fuel the false sense of domination. We'll watch the Cowboys abuse QB Trent Edwards in his 2nd career start. I'll only start believing the Cowboy hype when they host the perennial contender Patriots next week.

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Re: Cowboys OVERRATED @ 4-0?
 

Well, they've beaten a bad Miami team, a struggling, but gradually finding its way New York Giant team, a Chicago team that was conveniently missing 3 or 4 key defensive players, along with a complete bum at quarterback, and a downright pathetic Rams team at home.

But ... in this league, you have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat, and the Cowchips have passed that test so far.

There are a handfull of really good teams, a few really bad teams, and a whole slew of teams in the middle of the pack who are very often a different looking team from week to week. Right now, they're in that first group of teams as much as it pains us to admit it.

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I know I am biased...because it's Dallas....but I keep saying just what that guy Skip Baylesss? from ESPN First Take is saying.....Romo's production WILL fall off just like it did last year after his hot start....and at some point...T.O. WILLLLL blow up about something!!!!!

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I've heard it said "a team is as good as their current record" and also "you are as good as your last game played"....If any of this is true, the Cowboys "are who we thought they were"...the real deal... Would we chose to do battle with less? ...I think not.

Facts are, we may not want Dallas yet, but when we do, we are going to face one of their better teams with out question... Go Skins!!

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they are not overrated, they are money, barber is tearing it up!

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That's good insight to what drives man's competitive spirit...and makes for a hell of a cowboy and indian shoot out.

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I hate to say it, but no, they are not overrated. They are without a doubt a playoff team, and everyone had them going to the playoffs, or just barely out of it. I do not think they are the best team in the NFL, and I do think they will lose in the playoffs cause I feel their D is fundamentally flawed. It's already been exposed but they haven't really faced the talent they will come playoff time.
Their offense is clicking on all cylinders though, and that will be one tough offense to stop.

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[quote=Luxorreb;359675]Um. Yes I said it. If you had listened to my radio show today you'd have heard it there first... The Cowboys are overrated even being 4-0! Including their Monday night opponent (5 teams) Dallas' opponents are a combined 4-16. This week will also fuel the false sense of domination. We'll watch the Cowboys abuse QB Trent Edwards in his 2nd career start. I'll only start believing the Cowboy hype when they host the perennial contender Patriots next week.

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So on your Radio show since you are so knowledgeable, I am sure you also pointed out that the, as you call them, "perennial contender Patriots", opponents combine record is also 4-16?

So just because the Cowboys opponents have a combined record of 4-16, they are over rated? But the Patriots, whose opponents have the same record, are NOT?

Can you say CONSISTENCY?

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[quote=sandtrapjack;359697]So on your Radio show since you are so knowledgeable, I am sure you also pointed out that the, as you call them, "perennial contender Patriots", opponents combine record is also 4-16?

[B] So just because the Cowboys opponents have a combined record of 4-16, they are over rated? But the Patriots, whose opponents have the same record, are NOT?[/B]

Can you say CONSISTENCY?[/quote]

They don't care about that.

IMO when the Pats signed Moss they bought themselves and undefeated season if everyone stays healthly. I assume that is why everyone does not consider the Pats overrated. They are beating teams they should but so is Dallas and go figure!

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Just to clarify: Cowboys first 4 opponents record is 3-13. I added the Bills (their opponent on MNF) to prove my point. So my tally included 5 opponents bringing the total to 4-16 (5 teams). Check your math again. And yes I still stand by the fact that @ 4-0 the Cowboys are overrated.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;359697]So on your Radio show since you are so knowledgeable, I am sure you also pointed out that the, as you call them, "perennial contender Patriots", opponents combine record is also 4-16?

So just because the Cowboys opponents have a combined record of 4-16, they are over rated? But the Patriots, whose opponents have the same record, are NOT?

Can you say CONSISTENCY?[/QUOTE]


that's a tad misleading.
Patriots, 148 points for (#2), 48 points against (#5) in 4 games.
Dallas, 151 points for (#1), 72 points against (#11) in 4 games.


Dallas lets up 18 points per game, while the Pats let up 12. That's a difference of a TD per game.
Now don't get me wrong, I hate the both of you. Dallas is my #1 hated team, Patriots #2. So if the Pats and Cowpatties were to meet in the super bowl, it will seriously be the 1st super bowl I will not watch since I was born in 75.

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Dallas won't be in the Superbowl; New England will.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;359697]So on your Radio show since you are so knowledgeable, I am sure you also pointed out that the, as you call them, "perennial contender Patriots", opponents combine record is also 4-16?

So just because the Cowboys opponents have a combined record of 4-16, they are over rated? But the Patriots, whose opponents have the same record, are NOT?

Can you say CONSISTENCY?[/QUOTE]

look, i hate the cowboys, but they are not overrated, i mean, there doing what we was suppose to do, and thats beat teams we need to beat, by the way isn't it funny that my girl friend is a die hard cowboy fan, i get to...:spank:....???? well, anyway, she want even touch my helmet! (uh redskin helment :eek:) so weather we win or lose, i still get to stick it to the cowboys :)

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb;359702]Dallas won't be in the Superbowl; New England will.[/QUOTE]

Like I said before, they will make the playoffs, but I don't think they are good enough to make it through the playoffs.

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[QUOTE=DEVIL'S OWN;359704]look, i hate the cowboys, but they are not overrated, i mean, there doing what we was suppose to do, and thats beat teams we need to beat, by the way isn't it funny that my girl friend is a die hard cowboy fan, i get to...:spank:....???? well, anyway, she want even touch my helmet! (uh redskin helment :eek:) so weather we win or lose, i still get to stick it to the cowboys :)[/QUOTE]

LOL...get a redskins emblem tatooed on your...ummm...you know. LOL.

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Not overrated. Yes, their schedule has been weak so far, but let's get real here - the Cowboys have won all the games you would expect them to against weaker teams. The NFC is weak as a whole, so Dallas will have many games against weaker teams. The NE game will be a good barometer. If Dallas were to somehow win that game, I can't imagine any team in the NFC being able to beat them in the post-season.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;359706]LOL...get a redskins emblem tatooed on your...ummm...you know. LOL.[/QUOTE]


i thought about it......... but im get her drunk, and put a water tattoo on her shoulder one night, and im post it on youtube, so everyone can see her for the trader she really is, and the tramp i am. lol

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And we're 2-1 against teams with a combined record of? Exactly...let's worry about our own team right now. What'd ya say?

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Well I said it before and I still stand by it, I think there a bit overrated, but just because of the opponents they have faced, and the same goes for New England, it would be unfair to say the Cowboys are overrated without including the Patriots as there opponents have been quite weak also. I dont know what to make of Dallas yet, until they play a quality opponent, i stay on the side of overrated, but if they beat New England, then they are definately for real.

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I'm torn on this thread, I thought the dallas D would be awesome & it looks like its improving.

On the other hand, I thought thier O would be better than avg. but not enough to win games the way it has.

As the season goes on I expect the D to play tough, especially if Newman gets healthy. I also expect something to go wrong on O, whether its TO being his old self, or an injury on the o line. They don't have much depth there, just like us.

They're definitely a top NFC team, but the whole conference is so uncertain that it's way too early to say who's the best. If you HAD to say so, I think Dallas would come up on top, but I expect something bad to happen to them & it may change their season.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;359697]So on your Radio show since you are so knowledgeable, I am sure you also pointed out that the, as you call them, "perennial contender Patriots", opponents combine record is also 4-16?

So just because the Cowboys opponents have a combined record of 4-16, they are over rated? But the Patriots, whose opponents have the same record, are NOT?

Can you say CONSISTENCY?[/QUOTE]


NO!!!, I can, bums .You still got 11-12, games to go and you're already talking super bowl? ( I Don't think so).

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I'm almost sick of saying this: when the Cowboys get their asses handed to them in the NE game all this Cowboy mania will seem pretty silly.

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[quote=Krills;359712]And we're 2-1 against teams with a combined record of? Exactly...let's worry about our own team right now. What'd ya say?[/quote]

something like 3-9 for 3 games we played so far

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its way to early to talk about contenders and pretenders. the huge difference between the boys and pats are the pats are flatout blowing their opponents out. But with that being said there is still alot of football yet to be played.

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[quote=Luxorreb;359700]Just to clarify: Cowboys first 4 opponents record is 3-13. I added the Bills (their opponent on MNF) to prove my point. So my tally included 5 opponents bringing the total to 4-16 (5 teams). Check your math again. And yes I still stand by the fact that @ 4-0 the Cowboys are overrated.[/quote]

I'll check my math when you check your analysis.

You STILL failed to answer the question! If the Dallas opponents have the same crappy win loss record as the Patriots opponents, then why is Dallas over rated and New England is not?

According to your post that is precisely what you based your synopsis on.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;359734]its way to early to talk about contenders and pretenders. the huge difference between the boys and [b]pats are the pats are flatout blowing their opponents out.[/b] But with that being said there is still alot of football yet to be played.[/quote]


The average point spread from all of the Dallas Cowboys wins this year is 19.75 points. That is not "blowing them out"?

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[quote=sandtrapjack;359737]The average point spread from all of the Dallas Cowboys wins this year is 19.75 points. That is not "blowing them out"?[/quote]


haha thats more points than we average a game... wait, thats not funny!

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[quote=sandtrapjack;359737]The average point spread from all of the Dallas Cowboys wins this year is 19.75 points. That is not "blowing them out"?[/quote]


i am not even going to debate this with you. The cowboys are not as good as the patriots and its that simple. Nothing more nothing less.

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There are some football smart people out here. And those others are just wearing the burgandy and gold shades all day long. the Cowboys are a damn good team. Here is the difference between them and us. They beat the team they are suppose to, and not only do they beat them, they dominate them. We are not on their level, just as we are not on Indy, or the pats level. I am sick of seeing Skins fans who where blinders, that all is great in Redskin land. Open your eyes and see it for what it is. We have struggled to win the games we have, against bad if not awful teams, and lost to a team that quite frankly was 5 or 10 minutes away from completely giving up 3 games into the season. Dallas is gaining confidence with every freaking TD they put up on the board. And for the guy who said he agrees w/ Skip Bayless - I usually dont go off on a tangent about a writer, but I believe that guy is off his rocker from time to time. I have watched him several times and he is just out there with some of the crap he comes up with. I wish Greg Anthony would have punched him between the eyes when he had the chance,
anyway, Dallas is NOT overrated. So radio show guy...whoever you are....that is just ridiculous. The cowboys have won, keep winning, will probably go into the Pats game 5-0. Just as they should have, winning every game,convincingly,the first 5 weeks. The skins on the other hand, well we have seen our first 3 games, not a lot on convincing going on there!

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They are not overrated. This thread is gay.

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[quote=GiantsSuck703;359713]Well I said it before and I still stand by it, I think there a bit overrated, but just because of the opponents they have faced, and the same goes for New England, it would be unfair to say the Cowboys are overrated without including the Patriots as there opponents have been quite weak also. I dont know what to make of Dallas yet, until they play a quality opponent, i stay on the side of overrated, but if they beat New England, then they are definately for real.[/quote]


Hello, like everyone is saying, the Cowboys have played basically the same teams we have other than philly and blew them out of the freaking water, so how can you say we look strong, tough schedule, and say dallas is overrated, with a weak schedule. I can't seem to understand some freaking fans. I am wondering if they are football knowledgable at all when people keep saying crap like this.

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i hate those sob cowboys more than anybody alive,but if anything,they are underated.i do'nt think they are as good as the pats,but they will give the pats a game when they play them in dallas.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;359736]I'll check my math when you check your analysis.

You STILL failed to answer the question! If the Dallas opponents have the same crappy win loss record as the Patriots opponents, then why is Dallas over rated and New England is not?

According to your post that is precisely what you based your synopsis on.[/QUOTE]

Your the one who brought up the Patriots. This thread is about the Cowboys being overrated, why do you need to talk about the Pats? I didn't hear you mention the Colts or the Packers, they are also 4-0. This thread was solely about the Cowboys and the W/L record of their opponents. It has nothing to do with any other teams. But to bring up the Patriots you'll get your chance in week 6.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;359736]I'll check my math when you check your analysis.

You STILL failed to answer the question! If the Dallas opponents have the same crappy win loss record as the Patriots opponents, then why is Dallas over rated and New England is not?

According to your post that is precisely what you based your synopsis on.[/quote]

I think the reason many, including him, think the Cowboys are overrated and the Patriots aren't is because EVERY year, including last, they were Super Bowl contenders. Last year, people weren't thinking about the Cowboys winning it all. Now some are saying yes.

The difference is that basically the opinion of the Pats stayed the same, while the opinions people have of the Cowboys have changed based on a few games. The Pats only added firepower in the offseason, while the Cowboys basically maintained the same people on both sides of the ball. They have a few key losses, which I believe makes them more overrated than the Pats.

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[quote=Warpath;359780]Your the one who brought up the Patriots. This thread is about the Cowboys beaing overrated, why do you need to talk about the Pats? I didn't hear you mention the Colts or the Packers, they are also 4-0. This thread was solely about the Cowboys and the W/L record of their opponents. It has nothing to do with any other teams. But to bring up the Patriots you'll get your chance in week 6.[/quote]

Uh no...if you read the VERY FIRST post in this thread, you will see the originator mentioned the "perennial favorite" the Patriots in comparison to Dallas. And that is the post that I replied too.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;359746]i am not even going to debate this with you. [B]The cowboys are not as good as the patriots and its that simple[/B]. Nothing more nothing less.[/quote]

Based on what exactly?

I am not saying that you are wrong, or right. But what are you basing your opinion on?

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[quote=#56fanatic;359748]There are some football smart people out here. And those others are just wearing the burgandy and gold shades all day long. the Cowboys are a damn good team. Here is the difference between them and us. They beat the team they are suppose to, and not only do they beat them, they dominate them. We are not on their level, just as we are not on Indy, or the pats level. I am sick of seeing Skins fans who where blinders, that all is great in Redskin land. Open your eyes and see it for what it is. We have struggled to win the games we have, against bad if not awful teams, and lost to a team that quite frankly was 5 or 10 minutes away from completely giving up 3 games into the season. Dallas is gaining confidence with every freaking TD they put up on the board. And for the guy who said he agrees w/ Skip Bayless - I usually dont go off on a tangent about a writer, but I believe that guy is off his rocker from time to time. I have watched him several times and he is just out there with some of the crap he comes up with. I wish Greg Anthony would have punched him between the eyes when he had the chance,
anyway, Dallas is NOT overrated. So radio show guy...whoever you are....that is just ridiculous. The cowboys have won, keep winning, will probably go into the Pats game 5-0. Just as they should have, winning every game,convincingly,the first 5 weeks. The skins on the other hand, well we have seen our first 3 games, not a lot on convincing going on there![/quote]


Some good points you made here, but they didnt really dominate the Giants.

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[quote=#56fanatic;359754]Hello, like everyone is saying, the Cowboys have played basically the same teams we have other than philly and blew them out of the freaking water, so how can you say we look strong, tough schedule, and say dallas is overrated, with a weak schedule. I can't seem to understand some freaking fans. I am wondering if they are football knowledgable at all when people keep saying crap like this.[/quote]


Where did I say we look strong, because I know I didnt. I wouldnt consider a team that gave up a 14 point lead in the second half to a struggling team "strong". Dont put words in my mouth, I just think its hard to judge a team that has beat struggling teams, and I feel the same way about New England that I feel about Dallas, but never have I said were better than the Cowboys, because right now, thats just not true.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;359791]Based on what exactly?

I am not saying that you are wrong, or right. But what are you basing your opinion on?[/quote]

I guess hes basing it on the fact that New England has been perrinniall superbowl contenders for about the past 6-7 years, they have earned the right to be feared. I have given you a hard time about the cowboys, but never did I say they suck, right now there the best team in the NFC. Romo has played great and really limited his mistakes and Marion Barber is looking like your back of the future, I just want to see them play a good team, thats all.

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who the hell have we beaten?