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SmootSmack 08-06-2007 06:40 PM

BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Word is Kyle Busch will be driving the #18 car for JGR next year.

I'll let you know more as soon as I confirm.

SmootSmack 08-06-2007 06:55 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Gibbs is rumored to be switching to Toyota next year as well

skinsfan_nn 08-06-2007 07:00 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Toyota...? Well that sucks!

Sammy Baugh Fan 08-06-2007 08:20 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;336759]Gibbs is rumored to be switching to Toyota next year as well[/QUOTE]
Not any solid source is saying this bro. Gibbs has said he wants Chevy, Chevy said they want Gibbs. NO Team has resigned with Chevy yet. It's "a" rumor but an already disproven and and with no merit. Site yer source bro.

SOURCE: Jayski.com
[QUOTE]Kyle Busch to Drive for Joe Gibbs Racing: Kyle Busch chose to drive for Joe Gibbs Racing next season and began informing other teams Monday of his decision. A source close to Busch told The Associated Press that the driver had selected Gibbs after a seven-week search that began when Hendrick Motorsports released the 22-year-old driver to make room for Dale Earnhardt Jr. next season. The source requested anonymity because the deal was not finalized. "Kyle has made his decision and is in the process of informing the teams of his preference," said Jeff Dickerson, who represents Busch through Motorsports Management International. "As there are many details that still need to be worked out, Kyle will not be making that decision public at this time." Two car owners who had actively pursued Busch told the AP that the driver informed them Monday he had not selected their teams. They requested anonymity because they didn't reveal Busch's selection.(Associated Press)(8-6-2007)[/QUOTE]

SmootSmack 08-06-2007 08:42 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
My job is my source. But I see your point SBF. I'll no longer offer any inside insight that I hear because I can't post a link to verbal conversation.

Riggo44 08-06-2007 08:58 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;336756]Word is Kyle Busch will be driving the #18 car for JGR next year.

I'll let you know more as soon as I confirm.[/QUOTE]

That's great news. I am really tired of waiting for Yeley to break out. I miss seeing the Interstate car win!
I sure hope Gibbs thinks twice about Toyota. Chevy has won most of the races for the past few years. I think it's going to take Toyota a while to catch up.

Riggo44 08-06-2007 09:06 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Keep posting the rumors that you hear SS. Some of us like to hear them.

skinsfan_nn 08-06-2007 09:10 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
I don't think JJ is going to break out, maybe that has something to do with a possible move on Kyle...?

I think leaving CHEVY, would be a HUGE mistake! For that shit toyota.

I hope this rumor is 100% false! smoot does have the inside skinny, hope your verbal info is wrong.

SmootSmack 08-06-2007 09:36 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Yeley isn't bad. It's just that he's not a championship caliber driver (not yet at least) and teams like JGR, Hendricks, those teams expect championship caliber drivers at the highest level of stock car racing.

Yeley belongs on a smaller team with lower expectations such as Woods Brothers Racing (as is currently rumored), or Hall of Fame Racing (as previously rumored).

Sammy Baugh Fan 08-06-2007 09:37 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;336805]My job is my source. But I see your point SBF. I'll no longer offer any inside insight that I hear because I can't post a link to verbal conversation.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. If you can site yer Verbal souce would be ok.
Sorry but the I work at ESPN and I talk to people that I can't quote don't fly with me.

I stand with what has been said about Gibbs going to Toyota crud. If your sources still say Gibbs is going to Toyota I rest my case about needing a quotable source.

SmootSmack 08-06-2007 09:43 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;336826]Thanks. If you can site yer Verbal souce would be ok.
Sorry but the I work at ESPN and I talk to people that I can't quote don't fly with me.

I stand with what has been said about Gibbs going to Toyota crud. If your sources still say Gibbs is going to Toyota I rest my case about needing a quotable source.[/QUOTE]

Where's your source that it's not happening?

Anyway, all I said is that it was rumored. I think it's even on Jayski.com

Riggo44 08-06-2007 09:54 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Here's a link.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=2&id=2963842]ESPN - Kyle Busch to drive No. 18 car for Gibbs in 2008 - Nascar[/url]

SmootSmack 08-06-2007 09:58 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
I think SBF is looking for a link to my comment that Gibbs is rumored to be switching to Toyota.

In retrospect I never should have made that initial comment about Toyota in this Kyle Busch thread I suppose.

BDBohnzie 08-07-2007 09:16 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
That rumor (Gibbs to Toyota) has been floating around for a while. Since it was stated rumor, it should be taken as so...IMO, no quote needed.

Yeley hasn't done much, so it'll be interesting to see how Busch, Hamlin and Stewart "play" together.

Redskins8588 08-07-2007 09:25 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;337053]That rumor (Gibbs to Toyota) has been floating around for a while. Since it was stated rumor, it should be taken as so...IMO, no quote needed.[/QUOTE]

I agree a "rumor" is just that a "rumor" take them for what they are worth. If it was fact than by all means please post a link or quote your source.

And I would think that if someone works for the worlds leader in sport news (a.k.a. ESPN) and in motosports, than I would think that would be good enough for most. But I guess you can please everyone...

Oh, and SS keep the "rumors" coming and I will decide what I want to believe or not...

SmootSmack 08-07-2007 02:45 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Redskins8588;337055]I agree a "rumor" is just that a "rumor" take them for what they are worth. If it was fact than by all means please post a link or quote your source.

And I would think that if someone works for the worlds leader in sport news (a.k.a. ESPN) and in motosports, than I would think that would be good enough for most. But I guess you can please everyone...

Oh, and SS keep the "rumors" coming and I will decide what I want to believe or not...[/QUOTE]

Well I almost never post rumors just to post rumors, I'd flood the board if I did that. Any "rumor" I post is something that I can definitely confirm from multiple sources (regardless of whether I can "link" to those sources).

Such as letting you all know two weeks before it was reported that Betts was about to re-sign or that Docker was seeking around a $16 million signing bonus. Or the Casey Bramlet news, which I posted just before it was made official because I knew it was a done deal. In retrospect, I could have just waited a bit for a press release to come out. But I had work to do, and figured you guys would like to hear that news.

But I digress, you'll notice that when I don't have a link yet I'll usually start the thread title with "Report" and, on the rare occassion, I'm just posting a rumor then I'll say "there's a rumor"

I didn't think that one simple post by me would cause such an uproar though.

Riggo44 08-08-2007 08:33 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
This was a while back but it does bring uo Toyota.[url=http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ/MGArticle/WSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351755616&path=!sports&s=1037645509200]Winston-Salem Journal | NASCAR Notebook[/url]

Riggo44 08-08-2007 08:36 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Gibbs said they have talked about an extension for a while to get Stewart and crew chief Greg Zipadelli signed long-term if the two-time Cup champion plans to race beyond 2009.

"I want all those guys on the same page," Gibbs said. "When the time is right, we want to sign him for as long as he wants to drive."

As far as other negotiations, Gibbs said he is still talking with General Motors and that reports of his team having a deal with Toyota completed are inaccurate.

[B]"That's just not true," Gibbs said. "That's speculation. We're sitting down with the GM guys. We've had conversations with them. I don't think any GM team has signed a deal yet." [/B]

jsarno 08-08-2007 09:26 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;336805]My job is my source. But I see your point SBF. I'll no longer offer any inside insight that I hear because I can't post a link to verbal conversation.[/QUOTE]

Well, in your defense, you did say "rumored to go to Toyota". Unsure of how the word RUMOR was missed, but hey you never know.

About Busch, this is absolutely no shock at all. I figured that's where he would go. I wish him all success over there, as long as it doesn't conflict with hendrick motorsports. :D

jsarno 08-08-2007 09:31 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;337185]Well I almost never post rumors just to post rumors, I'd flood the board if I did that. Any "rumor" I post is something that I can definitely confirm from multiple sources (regardless of whether I can "link" to those sources).

Such as letting you all know two weeks before it was reported that Betts was about to re-sign or that Docker was seeking around a $16 million signing bonus. Or the Casey Bramlet news, which I posted just before it was made official because I knew it was a done deal. In retrospect, I could have just waited a bit for a press release to come out. But I had work to do, and figured you guys would like to hear that news.

But I digress, you'll notice that when I don't have a link yet I'll usually start the thread title with "Report" and, on the rare occassion, I'm just posting a rumor then I'll say "there's a rumor"

I didn't think that one simple post by me would cause such an uproar though.[/QUOTE]

Keep posting the rumors, I love to hear them personally.
Everything starts as a rumor, then some turn into reality. When the KG trade first came out, it was rumored...then went away, then sure enough, it happened. I love to hear about the rumors, keep it up.

hooskins 08-09-2007 11:52 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Yeah keep posting rumors. I'm sorry SBF, but personally I think you just dont really enjoy the idea of Gibbs going to Toyota, and if it was any other rumor you really wouldn't care. You don't need a quote for a rumor. A rumor is a rumor and just because it upsets you personally does not mean we have to start this whole you should quote stuff bs. You could simply chose to ignore it.


I have also heard on some sites about this Toyota move, it isn't something outta the blue. When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor. I hope you dont think I am calling you out SBF, I respect your knowledge and interest in NASCAR, and I guess I just wouldn't expect you to flip for something just because it offended you.

jsarno 08-10-2007 12:10 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;338362] When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor. [/QUOTE]

And who was the ONLY person that KNEW he wasn't going to JGR, but knew he was going to sign with Hendricks...OH, that would be me. :D

SmootSmack 08-10-2007 12:36 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;338362]Yeah keep posting rumors. I'm sorry SBF, but personally I think you just dont really enjoy the idea of Gibbs going to Toyota, and if it was any other rumor you really wouldn't care. You don't need a quote for a rumor. A rumor is a rumor and just because it upsets you personally does not mean we have to start this whole you should quote stuff bs. You could simply chose to ignore it.


I have also heard on some sites about this Toyota move, it isn't something outta the blue. When we were posting about Dale Jr possibly going to Gibbs you didnt seem too upset with that rumor. I hope you dont think I am calling you out SBF, I respect your knowledge and interest in NASCAR, and I guess I just wouldn't expect you to flip for something just because it offended you.[/QUOTE]

Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?

jsarno 08-10-2007 12:43 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;338380]Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?[/QUOTE]

Considering Toyota seems to be the crap shoot of NASCAR, I would have to say that JGR would go downhill by making such a decision.

SmootSmack 08-10-2007 12:58 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;338382]Considering Toyota seems to be the crap shoot of NASCAR, I would have to say that JGR would go downhill by making such a decision.[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying they'd win it all right away but I think Toyota will see more success next year after a year in the Cup series. Plus, keep in mind they have two start-up operations Red Bull and MWR running Toyotas. An established team like JGR-particularly with the caliber of drivers on that team-would certainly help.

jsarno 08-10-2007 01:02 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;338393]I'm not saying they'd win it all right away but I think Toyota will see more success next year after a year in the Cup series. Plus, keep in mind they have two start-up operations Red Bull and MWR running Toyotas. An established team like JGR-particularly with the caliber of drivers on that team-would certainly help.[/QUOTE]

It just doesn't seem like any cars other than Chevy and Ford can win. Look at this week, wasn't that the first win of a dodge all year?
To me, if I wanted to win, I'd stick with the teams that have a track record of winning...chevy and ford are the only ones I'd consider, with Chevy getting the ultimate nod.
They (as in JGR) are not in business to wait for wins.

hooskins 08-10-2007 10:43 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Ok well I am not a NASCAR expert but is the anti-Toyota feeling more due to the fact it is a foreign car company or because it is just not successful in NASCAR?

I seem to get the whole feeling that many people dont like Toyota because it isnt American.

drew54 08-10-2007 11:02 AM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;338380]Imagine if Gibbs does make the switch to Toyota and ends up winning a NASCAR Championship. Then he could say he won 3 different Super Bowls with 3 different QBs (plus 3 different RBs) but also 3 NASCAR Championships with 3 different car manufacturers (Pontiac, Chevrolet, and Toyota). How sick would that be?[/QUOTE]

While this would be cool, Also remember that if Denny Hamlin or Kyle would win, he could say three drivers as well.

Sammy Baugh Fan 08-10-2007 12:15 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
The reports are looking like he may make the switch.
He'll make them fast and able to get them Cheap.

I'm on the the ride so we'll see.

Everyday is Race Day!

jsarno 08-10-2007 03:44 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=hooskins;338550]Ok well I am not a NASCAR expert but is the anti-Toyota feeling more due to the fact it is a foreign car company or because it is just not successful in NASCAR?

I seem to get the whole feeling that many people dont like Toyota because it isnt American.[/QUOTE]


I can't speak for everyone here...but I personally don't care.
I don't think there really is an "american" car anymore. All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.
I just say that cause Toyota has not shown to have a good car in NASCAR, just like Dodge has fallen from having great cars to having crap cars now. (comparitively speaking to Chevy and Ford)

Summo 08-10-2007 04:02 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;338642]I can't speak for everyone here...but I personally don't care.
I don't think there really is an "american" car anymore. All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.
I just say that cause Toyota has not shown to have a good car in NASCAR, just like Dodge has fallen from having great cars to having crap cars now. (comparitively speaking to Chevy and Ford)[/QUOTE]

Toyota's are not [B][I]made[/I][/B] here, they are [B]"Assembled"[/B] here. The parts are shipped in boxes and American workers assemble the cars. By doing this Toyota pays lower tariffs compared to shipping a whole car already put together.

jsarno 08-10-2007 04:12 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Summo;338657]Toyota's are not [B][I]made[/I][/B] here, they are [B]"Assembled"[/B] here. The parts are shipped in boxes and American workers assemble the cars. By doing this Toyota pays lower tariffs compared to shipping a whole car already put together.[/QUOTE]


You know what I meant.
Fact is, a lot of actual parts are made in Taiwan etc. But thanks for showing up for yet again, one brief moment in time to correct someone.

Summo 08-10-2007 04:32 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;338660]You know what I meant.
Fact is, a lot of actual parts are made in Taiwan etc. But thanks for showing up for yet again, one brief moment in time to correct someone.[/QUOTE]

The point is that Toyota's cannot be considered American made. No matter where the parts are made or the cars are assembled the profits still end up in Japan and helping their economy and not ours and that sucks.

jsarno 08-10-2007 04:46 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Summo;338667]The point is that Toyota's cannot be considered American made. No matter where the parts are made or the cars are assembled the profits still end up in Japan and helping their economy and not ours and that sucks.[/QUOTE]

That is true.
My point was of saying this:
[i]All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.[/i]
was to show that by buying a Toyota, you are supporting American workers. While profits do go to the big whigs in Japan, the blue collar workers here are still supported.
The true point of my comment is that I don't think it matters if you drive a toyota / chevy / ford / or dodge, it's all about who wins, and that's chevy and ford.

Summo 08-10-2007 05:11 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;338669]That is true.
My point was of saying this:
[i]All toyota's in america are built here. So it's still supporting american workers.[/i]
was to show that by buying a Toyota, you are supporting American workers. While profits do go to the big whigs in Japan, the blue collar workers here are still supported.
The true point of my comment is that I don't think it matters if you drive a toyota / chevy / ford / or dodge, it's all about who wins, and that's chevy and ford.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately allot of the people who buy Toyota’s feel the same way you do, that the cars are imported but assembled here so it’s not so bad because they are supporting American workers. But buy purchasing an American made car has a domino affect on the rest of the country financially. Not only does the car company benefit themselves but the textile companies as well (the steel manufactures, the rubber companies, plastic companies etc.) and they keep more American’s employed then Toyota does. Even if those companies import the raw materials they profits still stay here.

SmootSmack 08-10-2007 06:52 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;338587]The reports are looking like he may make the switch.
He'll make them fast and able to get them Cheap.

I'm on the the ride so we'll see.

Everyday is Race Day![/QUOTE]

What reports?

Sammy Baugh Fan 08-10-2007 07:48 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;338708]What reports?[/QUOTE]

Sometimes yer just a jerk just to be a jerk.

[QUOTE]More on Gibbs to Toyota..done deal? HOF to RCR engines? UPDATE 3 denied: hearing the decision has been made and that Joe Gibbs Racing [#11, #18, #20] will switch from Chevrolet to Toyota in 2008 and the announcement should come in early September.(8-6-2007)
UPDATE: Joe Gibbs Racing still hasn’t announced whether it will switch to Toyotas next year, but the buzz is that it will. Some clues? Tony Stewart’s souvenir trailers were selling merchandise at 50% off regular price last week at the Brickyard, Stewart’s home track and a place where the Hoosier native is wildly popular. Also, a source at Richard Childress Racing said it has been approached by Hall of Fame Racing, a satellite Gibbs team, about buying engines from the newly merged RCR-Dale Earnhardt Inc., engine operation in 2008. Presumably, HOF is hedging its bets, if it ends up not being part of a Gibbs move to Toyota.(Ford Racing)(8-6-2007)
UPDATE 2: JGR will jump from Chevrolet to the Toyota camp beginning in 2008, joining Michael Waltrip Racing, Bill Davis Racing and Team Red Bull on the list of teams running Toyota Camrys. Neither Busch nor JGR have made any official comment on the move, but Gibbs officials have already informed Hall of Fame Racing that they will not continue to provide the team with engines next season, prompting Hall Of Fame to contact Richard Childress Racing about a similar engine-supply deal for 2008.(Motorsports Soapbox)(8-6-2007)
UPDATE 3: Hall of Fame Racing officials have not been told by Joe Gibbs Racing that JGR will not provide the HOF with engines next season, nor have HOF officials contacted RCR.(8-6-2007)[/QUOTE]
jayski.com

jsarno 08-10-2007 07:51 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;338722]Sometimes yer just a jerk just to be a jerk.


jayski.com[/QUOTE]

Nice quote. I didn't think they were really that close at all.

Sammy Baugh Fan 08-10-2007 08:41 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
Thanks
I'm afraid so as it seems.

jsarno 08-10-2007 10:08 PM

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Kyle Busch Heading To Joe Gibbs Racing
 
[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;338735]Thanks
I'm afraid so as it seems.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, you big chicken poo!
LOL. It's just always better to provide links with uncommon knowledge.


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